Who is this Ali dawah idiot?

[Omar del Sur]

another thing is Ali Dawah openly does weird and unislamic stuff, promotes that kind of thing. and then the next moment he's this defender of orthodox Islam we should rally around?? it can only be one or the other, he shouldn't be able to have it both ways and we should not accept these kinds of people as leaders.

 

[Angelina]

Why are those types even in the UK? Why continue to live in Kufr lands? It’s because they too love the so called ‘liberalism’ they berate and freedom of speech is one of them.

At the end of the day, they don’t even have these laws in actual Muslim countries. If they’re serious, they can go to their Muslim countries of origin and petition for that. But they won’t. Try that in Saudi, try that in other parts of the Khaaleej and other Muslim countries in which freedom of speech and sitting in front of a camera talking about this isn’t even permitted. You’d be thrown in jail. Actual Muslim countries don’t even implement that, yet you think you can scream about that to gaals. It’s a joke.

Like a poster mentioned, if you’re serious about spreading the deen, you’d spread what is applicable, and that’s Tawheed, the ones of Allah, not something that isn’t even a reality in Muslim lands let alone a gaal country you reside in.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

I think all the countries should follow the shariah but some guy for example who walks around the UK with "shariah for the UK signs" in front of random kaffirs- I think that kind of thing a terrible idea. And the person doing that kind of thing genuinely might be an agent.

anyone calling for sharia in the UK or anywhere in a non muslim country and obsessively calling for calipha is wierd to me and get side eyes.

Nothing wrong wanting everyone to be muslim and understanding that nothing is better then the sharia but the obsession with poltics and establishing sharia and a caliphate rather then calling people to islam thru tawheed makes me think they’re either kharawij or some sort of agent to make muslims look bad

I don’t think it’s halal to be voting in sharia poltics like hizbut tahrir or calling for sharia many scholars have made fatwas calling them and muslim brotherhood innovators.

The sunnah is to fix yourself and guide your friends and family and community

 

[Angelina]

anyone calling for sharia in the UK or anywhere in a non muslim country and obsessively calling for calipha is wierd to me and get side eyes.

Nothing wrong wanting everyone to be muslim and understanding that nothing is better then the sharia but the obsession with poltics and establishing sharia and a caliphate rather then calling people to islam thru tawheed makes me think they’re either kharawij or some sort of agent to make muslims look bad

I don’t think it’s halal to be voting in sharia poltics like hizbut tahrir or calling for sharia many scholars have made fatwas calling them and muslim brotherhood innovators.

The sunnah is to fix yourself and guide your friends and family and community

They’re brain dead and we have good segment in the Muslim community who are like this who are hell-bent in castrating the Muslim community in the West. What’s funny is that ironically, they can’t act like that in Muslim societies, they rely on freedom of speech which later on makes it difficult for Muslims in the West who are just trying to get on with their lives.

There is now currently no Sharia governed country even in lands inhabited by Muslims, hence why would they think it’s a possibility in a land in which Muslims make up only 5% or less? What’s the point of this discussion?

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Uk salafis strike again

 

[Angelina]

Uk salafis strike again

Modern day Salafis believe in obeying the ruler. They would not criticize Saudi for not having this law, so of course they’re not going to expect it to happen in the UK.

These lot are a different type of Muslims.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Modern day Salafis believe in obeying the ruler. They would not criticize Saudi for not having this law, so of course they’re not going to expect it to happen in the UK.

These lot are a different type of Muslims.

I know I’m just saying uk muslims seem to totally different then us here in North America

 

[Internet Nomad]

But I'm tired of these people adopting this "based and red-pilled" approach of going out of their way to be edgy, receiving backlash and then presenting themselves as the defenders of correct Islam.

Your whole statement is right but this point i wanna elaborate upon further.

These edgy types like to make fun out imams who are mainstream that aren’t constantly talking about the “non status quo” parts of the religion.

For example Omar Suleiman whilst i have issues with what he have said and done in the past he has done a lot of good.

Imagine your average muslimah in the west who is struggling with her imaan at uni and you could recommend her two different imams. One is a “compassionate imam” the other is “redpill edgy type imam”.

Im sure we both know the answer.

Majority of muslims don’t really need to know this type of stuff because it doesn’t effect our day to day. Nobody is ruling wth this. That said we can hide it like it doesn’t exist but to make such a focus on the parts of our deen that we can’t utilise in our lives when we have much more pressing issues at hand is ridiculous.

On the other hand these compassionate imams have halls of women filled who are all trying to increase their imam despite living in a society that tries to keep you down.

One is clearly more successful and doing more good.

 

[Angelina]

I know I’m just saying uk muslims seem to totally different then us here in North America

Poverty, laws of the 2000s demonizing Muslims, a sense of hopelessness and the vicious racism and Islamophobia and the UK being simply a miserable Isle is one of them.

Your whole statement is right but this point i wanna elaborate upon further.

These edgy types like to make fun out imams who are mainstream that aren’t constantly talking about the “non status quo” parts of the religion.

For example Omar Suleiman whilst i have issues with what he have said and done in the past he has done a lot of good.

Imagine your average muslimah in the west who is struggling with her imaan at uni and you could recommend her two different imams. One is a “compassionate imam” the other is “redpill edgy type imam”.

Im sure we both know the answer.

Majority of muslims don’t really need to know this type of stuff because it doesn’t effect our day to day. Nobody is ruling wth this. That said we can hide it like it doesn’t exist but to make such a focus on the parts of our deen that we can’t utilise in our lives when we have much more pressing issues at hand is ridiculous.

On the other hand these compassionate imams have halls of women filled who are all trying to increase their imam despite living in a society that tries to keep you down.

One is clearly more successful and doing more good.

The men who go on about compassionate Imaams are the same ones who give grace to wh0re mongers and write articles about how Andrew Tate who made a living out of making corn and still stands by his way of living has a better idea of Islam than Muslim women who were born and raised into Islam their entire lives. They’re also the men who defend the r8pists amongst them, the abusers and those who want to pimp out their own women by having secret marriages only for their sexual desires. This is simply the ideology of cornism.

These are morally bankrupt men whose first instincts is to be predators and the defenders of such men. They are the perfect example of corn addicts who use the garb of religion.

I truly also believe they’re props being used by wadaans to cause gender friction and turn young men into corn sick men steeped in shame and hence use religion to whip women due to their shame and hence their only emotions towards women is to sexualize them and demonize them. Look at their content, 90% is about women. It’s either overly sexualizing women by going on about how much of a temptation they are and how immoral they are.

 

[Khanderson]

Do we live under an Islamic ruler/caliphate for people to talk about certain things? No, we do not. When idiots talk about implementing shariah laws, they forget to mention that it's supposed to be done in a certain manner. Some Muslims, have a fixation with controlling other people's lives, and doling out corporal punishment. They are the same ones that get violent when someone disrespects Islam, forgetting how the Prophet SAW peacefully handled disrespect towards him.

I am sick of these people.

Thanks for saying this. This only brings more division amongst the Muslim community if they’re not careful with their words.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Your whole statement is right but this point i wanna elaborate upon further.

These edgy types like to make fun out imams who are mainstream that aren’t constantly talking about the “non status quo” parts of the religion.

For example Omar Suleiman whilst i have issues with what he have said and done in the past he has done a lot of good.

Imagine your average muslimah in the west who is struggling with her imaan at uni and you could recommend her two different imams. One is a “compassionate imam” the other is “redpill edgy type imam”.

Im sure we both know the answer.

Majority of muslims don’t really need to know this type of stuff because it doesn’t effect our day to day. Nobody is ruling wth this. That said we can hide it like it doesn’t exist but to make such a focus on the parts of our deen that we can’t utilise in our lives when we have much more pressing issues at hand is ridiculous.

On the other hand these compassionate imams have halls of women filled who are all trying to increase their imam despite living in a society that tries to keep you down.

One is clearly more successful and doing more good.

I'm against the compassionate imams and I'm against the "based red-pill" DH types.

Anyone who doesn't follow Quran and Sunnah upon understanding of salaf is going to end up going in a wrong direction.

I want real, authentic Islam. If I am in Europe and they're going to charge me with hate crime if I say what I really think about homos... then I can be temporarily quiet as to what I think. Being quiet about certain things I think is an option. But deviation is never an option. They are both deviationists- the compassionate imams and the DH types.

People who water down the din work to undermine the din. Some liberal sellout works against the din just like the zionist military works against the din.

The DH types have a different set of problems which I talked about in the last post.

Extreme sufis, compassionate imams, red-pillers, all these vast hordes of deviationists... they can come in huge numbers and with all kinds of backing... in the end, it's the Muslims who adhere to the sunnah who will triumph. The DH types have backing from their fans, the liberal sellouts have immense financial backing from kaffirs who want to weaken Islam- but the Muslims who cling to the sunnah with their molar teeth have the backing of Allah and it is these Muslims who will prevail.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I also want to say... some people argue for watering down the din on the premise that people will leave Islam otherwise. If they leave, they leave. Islam doesn't need them. They need Islam. Allah will perfect His light whether the kaffirs like it or not.

Every din that isn't called "Islam" is crumbling. Liberalism is collapsing, feminism is collapsing, red pill is rising but will collapse as well, Christianity seems near extinct outside of Africa and LatAm, no one believes in communism anymore.

Islam will prevail over all other din. Muslims should not have a weak mentality. The truth is that the non-Muslims and the kufr ideologies are in a position of extreme weakness and Islam and Muslims are in a position of strength. If you have Allah on your side, all of the creation can gather against you and you will win against all of them if Allah wills.