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Who is more delusional mgtowers or redpillers?

Mgtowers is a bunch of old and fat white dudes who say they don't date or marry women but will make thousands of videos complaining about women on YouTube.

Or redpillers who mentally masturbate over theories of dominance, and they say they don't simp but are into pua retarded shit where it involves them begging and harassing random women on the streets for sex
 

dr.leorio

death\emitter
Mgtow men are the most delusional. They think women want them but really they've been dismissed by women entirely. They are in3els in denial.
 

tyrannicalmanager

moderate power corrupts moderately
Mgtowers usually bunch of old and fat white dudes who say they don't date or marry women but will make thousands of videos complaining about women

Or redpillers who mentally masturbate over theories of dominance, and they say they don't simp but are into pua retarded shit where it involves begging and harassing random women on the streets for sex
i legitimately stop taking mgtowers serious when saw a video them called "female chameleons".
 
For a group of men who emphasize on not giving women importance, they are obsessed with women. Their whole movement, content, talking points are all centered around women. Women are at their pinnacle and forefront of their mind and existence.

:pachah1:

Why are men so obsessed with women?
 
For a group of men who emphasize on not giving women importance, they are obsessed with women. Their whole movement, content, talking points are all centered around women. Women are at their pinnacle and forefront of their mind and existence.

:pachah1:

Why are men so obsessed with women?
Men want to control women, they want to subjugate and dominate us.
 

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