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Who Are The Most Forgiving? Men Or Women?
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This is not even a question.
Somali women have put up with our chaos and are still proud.
Man give them the credit
Somali women have put up with our chaos and are still proud.
Man give them the credit
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38 | Hyderabad, India
I think downfall is an overreach.
Sure it makes them vulnerable but doesn't lead to the demise of the women.
If no man forgave all women would be divorced. Its a fact.
I know for us Somali, somali women go through a lot so you can give them benefit of the doubt. But for western farah living in developed country itโs definitely us that forgives more
I know for us Somali, somali women go through a lot so you can give them benefit of the doubt. But for western farah living in developed country itโs definitely us that forgives more
Odious Delirium
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Depends on the scenario in certain aspects men are more forgiving and in others women are it's very subjective.
Men donโt forgive as much and I kind of rate them for it. Women stay more when cheated on, many women donโt even leave the first time theyโre beat up by a partner and the list goes on. Men most definitely have better boundaries than woman and men are much more likely to leave when theyโre not getting what they want and need in a relationship whilst women can end up nagging for years before putting the towel in.Question is pretty subjective, I think more time, men are more forgiving
@Hmohamed54 thats also for Western relationships. Men are much more likely to engage in major dealbreakers like cheating, DV and drug abuse than women and still be forgiven.
Iโm exaggerating a bit, but women do tend to put up with more in relationship that a self-respecting man would never. Thatโs not to say that many men canโt also be overly forgiving. Iโm talking in general here and when looking it at from an individual perspective it is very subjective.
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i was thinking in regards to a woman and man relationship: the women is the most forgiving.
in regards to a woman and woman relationship (friends, family etc) women donโt forgive as much
man and man relationship (friends, family): men tend to be more forgiving
whatโs your thoughts?
Okay fair enough
Odious Delirium
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Oh in that case I agree if your talking about that for the majority but varies depending on the dynamics of the relationship in each circumstance
I 100% agree. I was having a conversation about it with a friend as to how some women can be so forgiving towards a man that cheats on her but would cut off a friend for missing her birthday. Itโs messed up. So in some regards women can be less forgiving but towards their own gender.
In saying that, male friendships however tend to be more low-maintenance whilst women tend to have friendships that are a lot more intense and the level of emotional investment is rather different. It still isnโt an excuse for them to behave that way towards each other though.
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Doesn't that just mean men value relationship with women more and have that intensity while women don't reach on average those same levels they do reach with there friends when it comes to there relationships with men?
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It looks like women have higher standards and expectations for their female relationships then their romantic male ones and men have higher standards for romantic female ones and make friends are low maintenance
i think it makes sense if you understand men tend to not have the level of emotional connections to their friends compared to women and usually theyโre only source of emotional communication is their partner which barely even scaratches the surface. a mistake or mess up from the womenโs side would be the utmost breach and violation to the man
Women tend to have more intense relationships with their friends than men do with their friends. Hence they have higher expectations over their female friends than men do with their friends. Male friendships are a bit more low maintenance than women. Hence, a man isnโt going to be too offended if his friend doesnโt show up for something, as they tend to view things in a more laid back manner.
To add, Women in general tend to value relationships more than men whether it be friendships or marriage. I might sound bias here but many papers show that women are more people oriented whilst men whilst men are more thing oriented. It might be the reason why women do better in healthcare in which theyโre around people whilst men tend to be better in STEM subjects that focuses on creating things.
Females, on average, score higher than males on people orientation, while males, on average, score higher than females on things orientation.
Sex differences in people and things orientation are reflected in sex differences in academic publishing
Sex differences in people and things orientation have been reported in a range of psychobehavioural domains. Females, on average, score higher than maโฆ
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Yep and I think socialization plays a role and the fact that a woman wouldnโt be able to up and leave a man the way she can a friend as if sheโs married with kids it will impact her children and the fact in very recent history women were 100% reliant on men and I think a lot of the views of women enduring is learnt behavior weโve seen from the older gen that women have picked up on.
That I agree. Example, If a man is ill or in dire need, usually the first person heโll turn to is his wife, whilst a womanโs friends especially in community oriented ones like Somalis, the friends would come over whilst the husband is at work and would cook and clean and take the wife to the hospital. I remember as a kid my mumโs friend would always be around whenever something big happened or mum needed that extra help.
Why do you think women are like that?
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Then why are women more forgiving with men then if not the fact that they value the relationship with men less then with there freinds. Isn't a relationship with a man from a woman's perspective like a low maintenance relationship between guys hence why they are forgiving?Women tend to have more intense relationships with their friends than men do with their friends. Hence they have higher expectations over their female friends than men do with their friends. Male friendships are a bit more low maintenance than women. Hence, a man isnโt going to be too offended if his friend doesnโt show up for something, as they tend to view things in a more laid back manner.
To add, Women in general tend to value relationships more than men whether it be friendships or marriage. I might sound bias here but many papers show that women are more people oriented whilst men whilst men are more thing oriented. It might be the reason why women do better in healthcare in which theyโre around people whilst men tend to be better in STEM subjects that focuses on creating things.
Females, on average, score higher than males on people orientation, while males, on average, score higher than females on things orientation.
Sex differences in people and things orientation are reflected in sex differences in academic publishing
Sex differences in people and things orientation have been reported in a range of psychobehavioural domains. Females, on average, score higher than maโฆwww.sciencedirect.com
Who do you think values the other side more and why?
I think men value women more then women value men overall
My theory:
Women especially in committed relationships lose out more upon not forgiving and leaving. Kids, loss of lifestyle, societal pressure.
Losing a friendship doesnโt cause a broken house for kids, less money and family disappointment. They only lose out emotionally if they decide to cut off a friend.
Also, the world is changing but attitudes arenโt going to change over night. Women whilst having it a lot easier to leave a relationship compared to their mother or grandmothers gen have still been raised with the mentality of the older gen hence why theyโre still a lot more forgiving towards men than towards their friends. But as times go by women will also be a lot less forgiving towards men. I think thatโs what redpillers are noticing.
I think historically due to women not being independent and having to rely on for survival and in many cultures women would be blamed for the demise of the relationship, I think women valued men. A whole lot more and itโs on that basis that relationships were based on.
Now, in todays modern world I think they value each other equally but Iโm seeing as times go by many women are becoming less relationship oriented. So I can see why youโd think men value women more. But I do think men value what they get out of a marriage more vs what women think they get.
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