White Liberals STRIKE AGAIN. NY Times Editor Used Black Man Boogeyman Tactic for WW Abortion Rights

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Angelina

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Qeelbax said:
They would absolutely but unless their is laws to prevent abortions outside of health of mother and rape then I’m not jumping on either the liberal/conservative ship.

regardless, that womans tweet was absolutely inappropriate and despite all you said she did not have a point. She is a nobody editor and you already know the innocent white woman v. black racist trope and she had no buisness playing into that.
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I'm not on any ship.

I find the liberals demonic in their thinking that they can abort a child at 40-weeks without any health justification ect.

I also find the conservatives crazy as they want to supposedly force women who at risk of dying to still give birth, rape victims ect and

For me, the most chilling thing is that lately women who've miscarried have been accused of abortions. Any married women should be worried about that. No woman is safe in that regard because miscarriages are unfortunately very common.
 
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Angelina said:
She has a point though, apparently their abortion laws doesn't allow rape victims to have an abortion. So, lets be real if something was to happen to the daughters of rich white politicians , they're going to use their money and influence and help her get an abortion whilst poor women suffer.

I'm anti- abortion but not allowing rape victims, women with health problems and jailing women who miscarry is disgusting.
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I think it's ok to abort the fetus in the event of rape. I do think it's okay but even though I don't agree with prohibiting a rape victim to abort the fetus... what percentage of abortions in the US are really due to cases of rape? I think somewhere between 1% and 0%. Maybe between 2% and 0%. I forget the exact statistic but when I saw it- it was some extremely tiny percentage. But I do think it's ok for the rape victim to abort.

""Undoubtedly the rape of a Muslim woman by an evil enemy is a strong reason for the Muslim woman and for her family to have an abortion. For she will hate this foetus, the result of this iniquitous attack, and she will want to get rid of it. So this concession is to be given because of necessity, especially in the first days of the pregnancy."


I would want to look into it more but I think it's ok. I'm not entirely in favor of IslamQA. But I do think they tend to get it right on the various rulings.
 
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So they say it's 1%.

"Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute. Yet the battle over exceptions for both has garnered outsized attention in the national abortion debate.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ew-abortions-so-why-all-attention/1211175001/"

I agree with letting them get an abortion but.... according to the statistic, we're talking about one percent of cases.
 
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Angelina

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Omar del Sur said:
I think it's ok to abort the fetus in the event of rape. I do think it's okay but even though I don't agree with prohibiting a rape victim to abort the fetus... what percentage of abortions in the US are really due to cases of rape? I think somewhere between 1% and 0%. Maybe between 2% and 0%. I forget the exact statistic but when I saw it- it was some extremely tiny percentage. But I do think it's ok for the rape victim to abort.

""Undoubtedly the rape of a Muslim woman by an evil enemy is a strong reason for the Muslim woman and for her family to have an abortion. For she will hate this foetus, the result of this iniquitous attack, and she will want to get rid of it. So this concession is to be given because of necessity, especially in the first days of the pregnancy."


I would want to look into it more but I think it's ok. I'm not entirely in favor of IslamQA. But I do think they tend to get it right on the various rulings.
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I've checked other sites and they have the same opinion as Islamqa.

These are the excuses:

Rape- before 120 days.
Mother's health at risk.
Deformed fetus- before 120 days.
 
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Angelina said:
I've checked other sites and they have the same opinion as Islamqa.

These are the excuses:

Rape- before 120 days.
Mother's health at risk.
Deformed fetus- before 120 days.
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I'm with you, I think there should be exceptions for the first two. Except for the third, I'm not sure. I don't remember reading anything about that. But I agree that those cases should get exceptions.
 
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Angelina

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Omar del Sur said:
So they say it's 1%.

"Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute. Yet the battle over exceptions for both has garnered outsized attention in the national abortion debate.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ew-abortions-so-why-all-attention/1211175001/"

I agree with letting them get an abortion but.... according to the statistic, we're talking about one percent of cases.
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I understand, but they could easily amend it and allow it for rape victims, threat to mothers life and if the doctors can tell before 120 days if there is issues with the fetus.
 
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All in all, as a Muslim I don't agree with either camps. Our way is more moderate and more logical. In one camp, you have the deviants who think you can kill a baby at 40 weeks and then you have the other camp who believe that the soul is breathed into at conception (this is Christian theology) hence barring women with real reasons like health, rape and severe disability of the fetus. Also, they're prosecuting women who've sadly miscarried as well.

Basically, the librals are scary and the conservative are mad.
 
Keep it a boqol

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sorevsa said:
nobody should support this western degeneracy aside from basic rights for gays and maybe trans. ruining our kids in the future
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How do you navigate through these ideas and ideologies since your gaal? You support feminism and liberalism to an extent but at the same time have a conservative view on relationships and families and your arnt completely pro lgbtq.
 
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Keep it a boqol 💯 said:
How do you navigate through these ideas and ideologies since your gaal? You support feminism and liberalism to an extent but at the same time have a conservative view on relationships and families and your arnt completely pro lgbtq.
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i'm pro radical feminism not liberal. overall just more understanding about womens and gays issues. everything else is the pretty much the same back when I was a salafi regarding family dynamic, relationships etc. you'd be surprised how many exmuslim somali guys are this way, most date muslims and raise their kids to be relaxed/moderate muslims. This is likely how i'll go about it.
 
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I think the conservatives winning seems like it can take two basic shapes: some sort of lunatic neo-nazi regime that aggressively persecutes nonwhites- or some sort of sort of traditional, culturally conservative society that isn't particularly concerned about race but is more interested in promoting Christian values.

if the liberals have their way, I think I eventually end up in some sort of concentration camp for refusing the vaccine and for having views they don't agree with. I think I would eventually end up in some sort of gulag for refusing to go along with some sort of weird new ideas they come up with.

I don't see the US ruling by Quran and Sunnah anytime soon and so I just want some sort of regime that will leave me alone and not actively persecute me. That is my big demand, that's all I want- just leave me alone, government. Let me have my religious views and conspiracy theories in peace, I'm not hurting anyone by denouncing innovators and saying I think Tupac is alive and hiding somewhere. I don't think I'm making some huge demand.

I cannot imagine a future under the Democrats where they leave me alone and don't actively persecute me for not agreeing with them. I just want them to be removed from power and replaced with some sort of government that leaves me alone and isn't out to actively persecute me.

I would like the traditional conservative Republican outcome without a bunch of racism, where I hopefully can study Arabic and speculate about Tupac and Saddam faking their deaths in peace without some lunatic in the presidency declaring war on me because I want to make my own decision on what I put in my body.
 
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I'm kind of surprised at the people defending her in this thread, apparently it's fine to dehumanize black people now? Always making black men seem like animals...
 
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Angelina said:
She has a point though, apparently their abortion laws doesn't allow rape victims to have an abortion. So, lets be real if something was to happen to the daughters of rich white politicians , they're going to use their money and influence and help her get an abortion whilst poor women suffer.

I'm anti- abortion but not allowing rape victims, women with health problems and jailing women who miscarry is disgusting.
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So if it’s a white man that raped their daughter they wouldn’t seek abortion. But if a black man did they would? She is using black men as the boogeymen.
 
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The liberals will win 2024 election thanks to conservatives nuts and their extreme views. Most liberals don’t even vote but they gonna show up in huge numbers in 2024. The conservatives lost the media war and the young people years ago.
 
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