Answer away.
Which one are you ?
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You might have read my post earlier but for those who haven't here
I like to call myself a rational unionist. Now, what do I mean by that you may ask?
1- Elect righteous leaders who desire the best for ALL somalis regardless of qabiil.
2- Hold peaceful talks, not the fruitless ones we always hear about.
3. Southern and Central Somalia get their shit together.
4- Unite in the name of culture, religion and language
5- If we can't achieve that then let's part ways.
Besides wth is even anti-sl? you mean I'm qabilist idiot or a jealous person?
I wish nothing but the best Sland, but one thing I will never tolerate people who make fun of the bombings or bootyclap to foreigners. I've seen many slanders calling Somalia/somalis their enemey and making fun of killings in social media. Also blaming Barre's doing on every somali. I have a feeling that majority of those are diasporians. Whenever i watch slanders(in somalia) I don't see the same amount of bashing except politicians.
Since I explained the conditions, Which one should i pick?
I like to call myself a rational unionist. Now, what do I mean by that you may ask?
1- Elect righteous leaders who desire the best for ALL somalis regardless of qabiil.
2- Hold peaceful talks, not the fruitless ones we always hear about.
3. Southern and Central Somalia get their shit together.
4- Unite in the name of culture, religion and language
5- If we can't achieve that then let's part ways.
Besides wth is even anti-sl? you mean I'm qabilist idiot or a jealous person?
I wish nothing but the best Sland, but one thing I will never tolerate people who make fun of the bombings or bootyclap to foreigners. I've seen many slanders calling Somalia/somalis their enemey and making fun of killings in social media. Also blaming Barre's doing on every somali. I have a feeling that majority of those are diasporians. Whenever i watch slanders(in somalia) I don't see the same amount of bashing except politicians.
Since I explained the conditions, Which one should i pick?
Secessionist then. I truly want North and South Separated so that we can have data between them. And see what works and what doesnt! Also it will encourage competition and jealousy between them. The citizens of the gobaals are winners!
But for USA ---NOPE! I WANT UNIONIST! Constitution has helped america alot. And besides they do have different states that govern differently and lots of data in it
Interesting point regarding your secessionist opinion. It does seem like the most likely outcome
If you're not sure you can vote not sure, I'm in between not sure/unionist but more towards the not sure side.
Any reason why saxib? Do you think it's possible for it to happen again taking current affairs into consideration ?.
YourBroMoe
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Unionist. Only because of Al-Shabaab and foreign interference. A separated Somalia is something we can work out after the war. Not before.
Tukraq
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Unionist but it has to be federal and consolidate a lot of power to regions and clans for it to succeed
Alt-right unionist
NAAFO
VALOR MORGHULIS
@QueenSamaale Every point you made is correct however these secessionists are just harbouring historical animosity that goes back to the days of the latter end of the 1800s when they were occupied by the british empire and the fathet of the precursor to what was to become eventually the republic, the Sayid had accomplished through the will of Allah by incuring a defeat on the British which was a superpower at the time & perhaps still is today after the Americans, Russians, Chinese etc which the british still haven't forgotten about their is this man who wrote a book roughly around the early to mid 1900s called Gerard Hanley who was a colonial officer about Somali's and their resilence and ferocious fearlessness when it comes to Valor the book is called Warriors life and death among the somalis I haven't gotten round to reading it yet but I will Insh'Allah soon I just wish their was a audiobook version on audible read/narrated by Roy Dotrice may Allah rest his soul amin I know sometimes most non white people of all backgrounds can often want to seek validation from either white people or from people who aren't from their communities as this mindset is becoming frequent however learning about this authors work specifically his accounts of Somali people and their culture as well as their disposition was really vindicating basically this man ended up eventually holding Somali's in the highest esteem because of our sensibilities he had admiration for us because of who we are, meaning all the things that have made somali's for thousands of years if not tens of thousands of years when it comes to our rich and diverse heritage and yes that includes Madow somali's as well as those who don't have a noble qabil that they can call upon as kinsman, what I'm saying is he respected us for our resolve as well as our unapologetic nature when it comes to affirming our identity what I said initially about the british dervish war was not to offend slanders but to give historical context for their secessionist mindset and anti Somalia rhetoric and its precisely this divisive mentality that motivates some to make certain individuals within the diaspora to make fun of the plight of central & southern somali's especially unforseen humaitarian disasters
Wallah I've heard about him too, I might try his books. As for somali history and politics, I don't have much knowledge. This year I got more interested in somali language, history and culture, So I have been watching Some videos and reading some articles. I never specified in my earlier post that I will Always lean towards unity.
I know that our ancestors where prideful and would never runaway from a fight. If they saw our state today, they would turn in their graves out of shame. The same land they sacraficed their lovers for is now being used by corrupt leaders(both foreign and somali). Even though, somalia didnt exist, they lovex their people. They were the best of the best.
You know what makes my blood boil the most, is when the victims of cruelty are being used for mere Brownie points. A lot of these baffoons use propaganda to gain more followers, and plant the seed of hatred into their hearts. These people dont care for the wellbeing of the masaakiin, they only care for themselves and their gigantic bellies. I can bet my life on the fact that the masaakiin(poor villages) only want peace and prosperity, in order to gain that they will Team up with anyone(Federal state) who can give them that. It's all about the Money and security.
Tbh, at the same time I'm wondering can these people change. Since Some of them have been screaming for secession 30 years. Let say my conditions have been met, will these people abandon their flag and the pride they hold for their "country". These people could turn into radicals or commit treason because they cant accept Greater Somalia.
I believe as every Muslim should, that Allah All-mighty will change our situation in'sha'allah. The Greatest difference between the people of that time and the people of today is imaan. Somalia and somalis where in their prime when they followed the words of allah, rasulullah and the righteous leaders. As you can see even the ummah our prophet SAAWS cried for is being destroyed by none other than muslims either by being part of a terrorist group, not practicing and compeletly ignoring the plight of their muslim brothers.
I know that our ancestors where prideful and would never runaway from a fight. If they saw our state today, they would turn in their graves out of shame. The same land they sacraficed their lovers for is now being used by corrupt leaders(both foreign and somali). Even though, somalia didnt exist, they lovex their people. They were the best of the best.
You know what makes my blood boil the most, is when the victims of cruelty are being used for mere Brownie points. A lot of these baffoons use propaganda to gain more followers, and plant the seed of hatred into their hearts. These people dont care for the wellbeing of the masaakiin, they only care for themselves and their gigantic bellies. I can bet my life on the fact that the masaakiin(poor villages) only want peace and prosperity, in order to gain that they will Team up with anyone(Federal state) who can give them that. It's all about the Money and security.
Tbh, at the same time I'm wondering can these people change. Since Some of them have been screaming for secession 30 years. Let say my conditions have been met, will these people abandon their flag and the pride they hold for their "country". These people could turn into radicals or commit treason because they cant accept Greater Somalia.
I believe as every Muslim should, that Allah All-mighty will change our situation in'sha'allah. The Greatest difference between the people of that time and the people of today is imaan. Somalia and somalis where in their prime when they followed the words of allah, rasulullah and the righteous leaders. As you can see even the ummah our prophet SAAWS cried for is being destroyed by none other than muslims either by being part of a terrorist group, not practicing and compeletly ignoring the plight of their muslim brothers.
Sorry for the long Post!
NAAFO
VALOR MORGHULIS
@QueenSamaale Wow I'm both left feeling blown away and emotional because of your post Wallahi walaasheyda (my sister) when I say blown away I mean I'm in awe of you Walaahi my sister Mash'Allah what a woman you are, I'm overwhelmed by your compassion/empathy towards your people as well as the predicament they've been in for the last few decades and seeing a sincere sister like yourself who has similar ideals & outlook is something that gives solace to people like ourselves who have similar principles when it comes to our people I've always been of the mindset we as Somali's shouldn't deviate from the foundation of our culture which is Deen & Dhaqan however we need to be less qabil oriented qabil should only be apart of the equation as to identify & establish who is Somali or in other words who is ethnically Somali through their lineage but this rule shouldn't apply to minorities at all whether its Madow somali's or people who don't have a qabil we need to embrace these maskiin people by making them feel that they're just as Somali as anyone else inclusion is key but that also applies to things like marriage no rejecting male suitors or females that come from these minorities as the western communities don't reject ajanabi sons/daughters in laws but some people who have no intention of greater Somalia and that are jahiil (ignorant) will hate and ostracise individuals who come from these minorities that are deemed as undesirable for their son or daughter to marry but the same people who share this exact mindset that have been accustomed to the west will accept ajanabi's to be apart of their familys but not our own people who just happen to come from marginalised groups Madow somali, no qabil somali, etc not to mention the vile mistreatment of maskiin people who have health & physical afflictions & pyschological and emotional trauma victims these people need to be integrated also as all they really need is to be shown empathy and kindness despite these people having adversity they all have the same needs as any other person the point I'm trying to make is we need to go back to our authentic culture that our ancestors practiced wallahi when you look at our ancestors & their traditions it was way ahead of its time (advance) especially for the disenfranchised our culture has been for centuries more progressive than many European/Western cultures but I'm talking about our pure & authentic culture that was back then devoid of any african/arab influences which is why our elders as well as the Somali societies back then had more solidarity with each other as well as compassion however in recent times our communities have a resemblance to some of the most backward cultures within the continent (africa) as well as south asia & south west asia (afghans) therefor we must go back to not only the post independence great era where Somalia was the dominant nation within the continent as well as our immediate region of EA both militarily as well as economically Somalia was even known as the Switzerland of Africa
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