I have mentioned this in a different thread and posted speech in real time that Siad barre had made pending the exit. The problem with the Manifesto saying he should step down they didn't create mechanism for a transition of power.
Well, we're not talking about other threads we're talking about what you said here. Besides, Siad Barre didn't have an honest transitional plan either. After stocking the flames of tribalism for decade and tearing the the social fabrics of Somali society, his army losing 85% of the territory and reduced to enclaves across the country ... After all this, he comes up and says I'm open for negotiations and free elections but any one who fought him is not eligible is not just laughable but pathetic. The Manifesto Group included people from all clans in Somalia not just Hawiye but it never toke off. I can't believe you're making Afweyne this marty who his most famous quote is "When I came to Mogadishu there was only one road paves by Italians, if you force me out of power I will return Mogadishu like I found it. I came by the gun and only the gun can remove me"
The manifesto group where allied at the time with USC Militia, colluded with them and nominated Ali Mahdi for president and we can all see what they did when they manage to out Siad Barre. They just started infighting eachother for claim to power, creating mayhem in the process. The same played out in Somaliland they started infighting between different factions of the SNM, started mass slaughtering civilians, hunting down clans and later we see the same play in Puntland during the Puntland Crisis.
Is it because of Siad Barre that this happened? No. They never produced any plans detailing why they desired to take that wrong path and wage a war against their own country. They never found common objectives that could bring them closer to a point where they could agree to integrate their forces and form a unified decision-making body. They never deliberated on how they would run the country after they took over. They were driven by animosity, clan chauvinism, and personal grudge.
Rigged election? Non-of them were driven by creating an all-inclusive democratic governing system.
This holds even more true when all you have to do is compare the insurgencies/rebels to the tplf rebels/insurgency that outsted Mengistu from Ethiopia. Which a Somali journalist at the time had privilege of interviewing both sides
Well that's simply not true. The Manifesto included elites from all clans not just Hawiye. Secondly the Qabyalad was deliberately and systematically inflamed by Said Barre to seed discord amongst rival clans so that he can extends the lifespan of his regime for another decade. It came back and bite him later in the a$$ when Ogaden (his own allies) broke off from his MOD army and started a whole rebel movement called SPM. You ever thought why Darood and Hawiye peacefully transfered power before Afweyne's coup with all gov institutions, civil servants and National Army intact? Or why the Somali people from all clans were so receptive of his coup due to the shortcomings of the civil gov without beating their chest and starting a rebel movement?
Thirdly and most importantly, the premise of your whole argument is flawed and invalid. By 1990 there was no government institutions. National Army become an over gloried tribal militia, economy collapsed, people fleeding the nation and insecurity is order of the day. How do you go from a stable government in 1969 to the state collapse in 1991? He came to power with a unified nation, a functioning gov institutions and low levels of Qabyalad to the shit show of 1991 when he left. Barre is the reason for all of this, he should've stepped down in 1978-1980 and allowed free elections since he failed in Ogaden War and the people detested him. If you're unpopular, people want you out, rebel groups are forming in every corner of the country maybe you should stepdown or organize fair elections instead of driving the country to the gutter to keep your bum on the throne.
Another part of your false argument assumes Barre built modern gov institutions in 1960 and the rebels just teared everything down and failed to come up with an alternative. When the the truth is it was handed down to us upon independence from colonial powers. What did Barre actually create when it comes to statecraft? Nothing. He came on a bloodless coup, all gov institutions where there, no opposition, a very homogeneous and supportive population and added his own little commie touch. It's really astonishing the fact you expect a plethora of disorganized tribal militia to start a whole new state from scratch when your dear Afweyne failed to keep an already existing state floating. That's double standards, no it's utterly hypocrisy. Who's more accountable a 20 years established authoritarian government or bunch of rebel groups that rises from your own incompetence???
So, their failure to stabilize, unite or govern the country after they successfully overthrew the Barre Regime was not a surprise.
These insurgencies/proxies had zero policy or governing plan of action or uniting vision. How do i know this? is it because i read the US congress of library or Somali encyclopedia section writing?
No, it's from SNM's writing's themselves, its from the mouth of those very same rebels. Aside from those clips of interviews that i had shown.
Where they not only spell out how they failed to draw support from other Somalis showing they had no uniting vision but also expressed that their only motive was to collapse the government.
It's really an eye opener that you hold rebel groups to standards to clear any just criticism of your dear leader. What about Afweyne's failure to stabilize, unite or governor the country after losing Ogaden War? Why allow all these rebel groups to pop out in the first place? Why use Ethiopian proxies to attack the rebels, doesn't that make you no different than the rebel groups themselves? Infact, it makes you worse because you're a government who's whole claim is based on Somalinimo but finding it acceptable to use Oromo foreigners to fight your rival. You also failed to spell out how Afweyne antagonized every major Somali sub clan in Somalia with his divide & conquer tactics relying on his MOD alliance to keep power. Instead of asking why rebel groups failed to appeal to other clans why don't you ask yourself why all clans refused to work with Afweyne. If every major clan in your country is up and arms maybe the problem is not with them, maybe it's you.
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