When an AJNABI tried Bad mouth Halimos Infront of me

[techsamatar]

I find this whole somali women reputation rhetoric to be absurd. Ethnicity aside, she is a troubled low self esteem young woman to be doing that AND there are many of such women in every race/ethnicity..




Also, don't curse her OP, pray for her instead. Not everyone had similar opportunities and upbringing.

This is precisely what I mean – Somali women will eventually face a time when their reputation is tarnished because of sugarcoating and not addressing the degenerate behavior of their fellow sisters, both publicly and privately.

She went to university and maintained modesty while engaging in that act, so clearly, she had the same opportunities and also home training; there's no way around it or excuses.

Have you not just read the spoiler from @Yeri? I will soon create a thread discussing this mistake of my ethnic women pointing fingers and not holding each other accountable, and how it will affect how my mahram and sisters are viewed simply because they belong to the same ethnic group.

 

[Hodan from HR]

This is precisely what I mean – Somali women will eventually face a time when their reputation is tarnished because of sugarcoating and not addressing the degenerate behavior of their fellow sisters, both publicly and privately.

She went to university and maintained modesty while engaging in that act, so clearly, she had the same opportunities and also home training; there's no way around it or excuses.

Have you not just read the spoiler from @Yeri? I will soon create a thread discussing this mistake of my ethnic women pointing fingers and not holding each other accountable, and how it will affect how my mahram and sisters are viewed simply because they belong to the same ethnic group.

I never said don't address societal problems. Just pointing out that your influence and ability to change how an adult woman is living her life is limited here. It's better to make dua for her and make excuses for her behavior, the way our deen teaches.


Truth is, no one know what happens behind closed door in families. What if she was molested by her male relatives as a child? I simply refuse to look down or judge others for the sins they've committed. Everyone is a sinner to some extent. I may never have committed zinaa but I have my own struggles. If you really care about Somali women wellbeing, you advice us to avoid promiscuous men. To me, it feels like you care more about how she ruined your somali reputation among your peers than the fact she is being taken advantage of by your backstabbing heaux male friend..

 

[techsamatar]

I never said don't address societal problems. Just pointing out that your influence and ability to change how an adult woman is living her life is limited here. It's better to make dua for her and make excuses for her behavior, the way our deen teaches.


Truth is, no one know what happens behind closed door in families. What if she was molested by her male relatives as a child? I simply refuse to look down or judge others for the sins they've committed. Everyone is a sinner to some extent. I may never have committed zinaa but I have my own struggles. If you really care about Somali women wellbeing, you advice us to avoid promiscuous men. To me, it feels like you care more about how she ruined your somali reputation among your peers than the fact she is being taken advantage of by your backstabbing heaux male friend..

She was not taken advantage of; stop with the coping. I can talk until the sun sets about other degeneracy that has been willingly done. Let me guess, the 76.2 trend during Ramadan was also due to their upbringing and being taken advantage of? And, of course, the pointing and the reach of being molested and male relatives—please, is this how low and disgraceful my fellow folk have fallen too?

Was Bani Israel not destroyed and cursed by the prophets for not holding each other accountable for their sins publicly and privately? Why on earth would I tell you to avoid the men when you're not related to me? Was it me who went to university and willingly did a deed, and then, if you claim he took advantage, how come nothing has been filed against him or a single complaint? In fact, she wanted to.

Yes, the reputation of my mahram and sisters is being shaped and generalized due to a large amount of scum on the internet as well as in real life who are known for being cheap and clean. Even the elder taxi drivers have had enough, as they know the cities and what goes on.

 

[Sigmundd]

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What ethnicity was the guys that ..... on rhe somali girlr?

 

[Soul Kaizer]

First mistake sending your daughter to university.

personally i think women shouldn’t even be taught how to speak.

They should be seen not heard.

 

[attash]

Let me guess, the 76.2 trend during Ramadan was also due to their upbringing and being taken advantage of?

What is 76.2?

 

[techsamatar]

What is 76.2?

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[Aseer]

What is 76.2?

yeah what is 76.2 @techsamatar ?

 

[attash]

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Alhamdulillah I don't have a TikTok account

 

[Hodan from HR]

She was not taken advantage of; stop with the coping. I can talk until the sun sets about other degeneracy that has been willingly done. Let me guess, the 76.2 trend during Ramadan was also due to their upbringing and being taken advantage of?

Who or what is this?

It could be due to her upbringing, it could be that she is a degenerate. Allahu'alam is what I am saying.

And, of course, the pointing and the reach of being molested and male relatives—please, is this how low and disgraceful my fellow folk have fallen too?

Was Bani Israel not destroyed and cursed by the prophets for not holding each other accountable for their sins publicly and privately? Why on earth would I tell you to avoid the men when you're not related to me? Was it me who went to university and willingly did a deed, and then, if you claim he took advantage, how come nothing has been filed against him or a single complaint? In fact, she wanted to.

You can want something and still be taken advantage of. I find your scummy friend worse for bragging about his sins publicly. No offense but you need better friends OP.

Yes, the reputation of my mahram and sisters is being shaped and generalized due to a large amount of scum on the internet as well as in real life who are known for being cheap and clean. Even the elder taxi drivers have had enough, as they know the cities and what goes on.

So you are saying you care so much about your sisters and female relatives reputations that you are concerned about other somali women. Word.

 

[techsamatar]

Who or what is this?

It could due to her upbringing, it could be that she is a degenerate. Allahu'alam is what I am saying.



You can want something and still be taken advantage of. I find your scummy friend worse for bragging about his sins publicly. No offense but you need better friends OP.



So you are saying you care so much about your sisters and female relatives reputations that you are concerned about other somali women. Word.

"So you are saying you care so much about your sisters and female relatives reputations that you are concerned about other somali women. Word."

In the West, especially when you stand out among various ethnic groups and are identified as Muslim, there seems to be little choice. You get grouped with any bad apples, and holding each other accountable to avoid degeneracy and tarnishing the group's name—a name that even a blind child could associate with you—is not just a matter of concern but a basic human precaution.

Yes, the only plausible explanation is the second one you wrote—degenerate and scoundrel. I hope she seeks repentance. Despite being neither poor nor untaught about the deen, she portrayed herself and dressed to fulfill her base, lustful desires outside her home and in situations involving free mixing, for afterwards for this scumbag to boast and generalise all Somali women all thanks to her.

 

[Hodan from HR]

Was Bani Israel not destroyed and cursed by the prophets for not holding each other accountable for their sins publicly and privately? Why on earth would I tell you to avoid the men when you're not related to me? Was it me who went to university and willingly did a deed, and then, if you claim he took advantage, how come nothing has been filed against him or a single complaint? In fact, she wanted to.

That's why I am holding you accountable for cursing the sister. Let's not normalize cursing others for sins that are between them and Allah. You make some good point tho. Just give her the benefit of doubt. That's what our deen teaches us..


"If a friend among your friends errs, make seventy excuses for him. If your hearts are unable to do this, then know that the shortcoming is in your own selves.”

 

[Ozymandias]

And somali men don't commit zinaa?
She can turn her life around and end up with a reformed saqajan. There's a lid for every pot..

I'm not a reformed saqajaan but a confirmed saqajaan, ani igu darsada, si deg deg, hadadan baan biili kara

 

[Sigmundd]

This is precisely what I mean – Somali women will eventually face a time when their reputation is tarnished because of sugarcoating and not addressing the degenerate behavior of their fellow sisters, both publicly and privately.

She went to university and maintained modesty while engaging in that act, so clearly, she had the same opportunities and also home training; there's no way around it or excuses.

Have you not just read the spoiler from @Yeri? I will soon create a thread discussing this mistake of my ethnic women pointing fingers and not holding each other accountable, and how it will affect how my mahram and sisters are viewed simply because they belong to the same ethnic group.

doubt she had any home training or else she wouldn't behave like that in uni and i doubt she wore modestly for Allah sake.

 

[Hodan from HR]

I'm not a reformed saqajaan but a confirmed saqajaan, ani igu darsada, si deg deg, hadadan baan biili kara

Speak regular af somali blease..

 

[Ozymandias]

Speak regular af somali blease..

I can't use plain English in front of the HR department come on, you lot are the opps

 

[Chase]

This is precisely what I mean – Somali women will eventually face a time when their reputation is tarnished because of sugarcoating and not addressing the degenerate behavior of their fellow sisters, both publicly and privately.

Bro, you're concern trolling. If they're gonna do that ish, there's nothing you can do to stop it, and neither will Somali women call them out, you're barking for no reason.

Reputation tarnished? You just said North Africans were worse, even Pakistanis have lost it recently, why single out Somali degeneracy when all Muslims in the West partake in the same activities?

 

[techsamatar]

Bro, you're concern trolling. If they're gonna do that ish, there's nothing you can do to stop it, and neither will Somali women call them out, you're barking for no reason.

Reputation tarnished? You just said North Africans were worse, even Pakistanis have lost it recently, why single out Somali degeneracy when all Muslims in the West partake in the same activities?

Well, they will eventually face the consequences for covering for each other, so I'm not concerned. However, let's be honest about whose dirty laundry is more visible. People's perspectives are shaped by the portrayal of those scoundrels, even though their actions don't represent all Somali women. In 2023 alone, the widespread degeneracy and shameless acts that went viral were just the actions of a few individuals. Now, even in real life, I encounter non-Somalis making negative comments about Somali women. This wasn't as prevalent five years ago in the UK, and even taxi drivers and uncles are now complaining about the youth.

Other ethnic groups like South Asians and North Africans have less visibility since they can pass as each other, and it's challenging to determine their specific nation or region. However, for us, there's no escape. Thank God I'm not in the peasantry class, so I don't have to interact with the miserable masses anymore.

 

[Chase]

Well, they will eventually face the consequences for covering for each other, so I'm not concerned. However, let's be honest about whose dirty laundry is more visible. People's perspectives are shaped by the portrayal of those scoundrels, even though their actions don't represent all Somali women. In 2023 alone, the widespread degeneracy and shameless acts that went viral were just the actions of a few individuals. Now, even in real life, I encounter non-Somalis making negative comments about Somali women. This wasn't as prevalent five years ago in the UK, and even taxi drivers and uncles are now complaining about the youth.

Somali degeneracy is on the rise, that's true. But so are other Muslim groups, we're no better or worse. They make negative comments, then do the same vis-a-vis to them, two can play at that game.

I mean you literally did it in your opening post?

 

[techsamatar]

Somali degeneracy is on the rise, that's true. But so are other Muslim groups, we're no better or worse. They make negative comments, then do the same vis-a-vis to them, two can play at that game.

I mean you literally did it in your opening post?

I understand, brother. There may come a time when we outcompete them all to the extent that there won't even be room for clapback. Just wait and remember this comment. We might need to be expelled from the West.