What's with Nigerians obssession with Somalia

It’s fucking disgraceful that in 2025, parts of Nigeria are still drowning in medieval level filth, with people forced to shit in the open like it's the Dark Ages. You’ve got over 250 million people, and yet the country still can’t fucking sort out something as basic as toilets? That’s not just incompetence it’s a complete collapse of responsibility. Entire neighborhoods are left to rot in their own waste, and it’s gotten so absurd that there are actual YouTube videos teaching grown ass adults how to take a proper shit. Beaches? They’ve turned into public toilets full on dump sites. This isn’t just a sanitation crisis it’s a national embarrassment that stinks of corruption, dysfunction, and total leadership failure
 
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The entire public perception around Somalia is dominated by media and sensationalists who love to paint a grim picture about Somalia because tragedy and conflict will bring more views than talking about progress and change. Of course since none of them have stepped foot in Somalia nor record accurate data about it they don't know the reality of it like you do.

Somalia should create their own separate media echo-system and gear it towards a global and domestic Somali audiences.

Not like it is now with these demented people running on social media or youtube. SubxanAllah , but one that's public funded and well regulated.

One that releases information and content that is relevant and meaningful.

InshaAllah soon soon, there is a wealth of stuff to cover.
 
Some Nigerians are just deeply anti Islamic. Kemi Badenoch, the leader of the Conservative Partly, recently said this about fellow Nigerians:


find it interesting that everybody defines me as being Nigerian. I identify less with the country than with the specific ethnicity (Yoruba).”
“I have nothing in common with the people from the north of the country, the Boko Haram where Islamism is.
“Being Yoruba is my true identity, and I refuse to be lumped with northern people of Nigeria, who ‘were our ethnic enemies,’ all in the name of being called a Nigerian.”
 
A disturbing video has surfaced showing a Nigerian man allegedly eating his own feces in what appears to be an attempt to go viral. The incident reportedly took place on a public road median, where the man stripped naked in broad daylight. Shockingly, bystanders did not report the act, possibly due to how normalized public defecation has become in some areas. In the footage, three adult men are involved one filming while the other two defecate openly. One of the men then stands up, smeared in his own feces, reaches into his buttocks, grabs a handful of excrement, and begins consuming it on camera seemingly for online attention. This grotesque display underscores serious issues related to mental health, public sanitation, and the desperate lengths some people will go for viral fame.
 
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Sigmundd

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Maybe because we have the worst pr in human history. Constant portrayal as savages, poor and dangerous hasgot us to where we are today. And it doesn't help we have somalis who's actively giving us a bad name for free and leaders who's making Somalia into a shithole
 
Maybe because we have the worst pr in human history. Constant portrayal as savages, poor and dangerous hasgot us to where we are today. And it doesn't help we have somalis who's actively giving us a bad name for free and leaders who's making Somalia into a shithole

If I constantly portrayed you as a homeless, broke, mentally unstable, chronically online person detached from your community, obsessed with outsider opinions, and indifferent to your own well-being what do you think that would do to your sense of self?

You’d probably end up jumping from thread to thread, projecting doom and gloom instead of actually living.


But here’s the reality: when Somalis were reviving sectors, building institutions, and progressing against all odds, do you think they paused to ask what others thought of them? Of course not.

We don’t care how the world sees us. We have our own vision, priorities, and agenda. And they don’t need to align with theirs.

If anything, obsessing over maintaining a good image like Ethiopia/Nigeria does just puts a lid on deeper issues. Their polished PR masks dysfunction.

Ethiopia/Nigeria might enjoy better optics globally, but many Ethiopians/Nigerians live harder lives than Somalis, who despite negative portrayals are steadily progressing, innovating, building wealth and finding real solutions on the ground.
 

Sigmundd

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@Idilinaa i can criticise Somalia however I want, go cry if you hate the truth. And you can't come for anyone for being chronically online when your out here writing a whole essay daily. You don't see me do that to prove failed points. I write my small piece and keep it moving. It's YOU who's chronically online looking for attention hence why you dedicate yourself in writing an entire assignment on here thinking anyone has the time to read your long vague points. Alhamdullilah my lord has blessed me with a good life so its hilarious your accusing peoople of being homeless and setached from my community. Do you even know my name? shako yeelo and eat xaar you utter qumaayo. I can smell your xaar breath on my screen. Imagine pushing 40 and yapping all day. Go look after your kids and don't worry what I do with my life. And don't bother coming for my age I'm living happily single at age 30.
 
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@Idilinaa i can criticise Somalia however I want, go cry if you hate the truth. And you can't come for anyone for being chronically online when your out here writing a whole essay daily. You don't see me do that to prove failed points. I write my small piece and keep it moving. It's YOU who's chronically online looking for attention hence why you dedicate yourself in writing an entire assignment on here thinking anyone has the time to read your long vague points. Alhamdullilah my lord has blessed me with a good life so its hilarious your accusing peoople of being homeless and setached from my community. Do you even know my name? shako yeelo and eat xaar you utter qumaayo. I can smell your xaar breath on my screen. Imagine pushing 40 and yapping all day. Go look after your kids and don't worry what I do with my life. And don't bother coming for my age I'm living happily single at age 30.

I'm not calling you chronically online, homeless, or anything else. I don’t know you personally, and I wouldn’t make assumptions like that. The example I used was just to illustrate a broader point about perception, not a personal attack on you.

What I’m trying to say is this, constantly reacting to how others portray Somalis whether it’s the media or random people online can consume your energy and shift your focus away from your own goals. That’s not good for your mental or emotional well-being.


Let them say whatever they want. Their narratives don’t define us, and they definitely don’t reflect the reality on the ground. What matters is how we see ourselves , our own priorities, values, and the future we’re working toward. That has to come from us, not filtered through someone else’s lens.

For example, I try to live a life guided by Islamic principles, and I know that’s not going to sit well with everyone. People will mock it, misrepresent it but I’m not going to shrink away because of their discomfort.

From how passionately you're speaking, it's clear that you're a thoughtful and intelligent young adult who genuinely cares about the future of your people. Whether or not we agree on every point, I truly respect that part. I just believe that we need to approach these conversations in a healthy, constructive way where our criticism comes from a place of wanting to build, not tear down.

I criticize Somalia all the time too, but I don't overlook the progress that's been made. If improving our public image/PR is really your goal, wouldn't it make more sense to highlight those achievements and give credit where it's due?
 

Sigmundd

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I'm not calling you chronically online, homeless, or anything else. I don’t know you personally, and I wouldn’t make assumptions like that. The example I used was just to illustrate a broader point about perception, not a personal attack on you.

What I’m trying to say is this, constantly reacting to how others portray Somalis whether it’s the media or random people online can consume your energy and shift your focus away from your own goals. That’s not good for your mental or emotional well-being.


Let them say whatever they want. Their narratives don’t define us, and they definitely don’t reflect the reality on the ground. What matters is how we see ourselves our own priorities, values, and the future we’re working toward. That has to come from us, not filtered through someone else’s lens.

For example, I try to live a life guided by Islamic principles, and I know that’s not going to sit well with everyone. People will mock it, misrepresent it but I’m not going to shrink away because of their discomfort.

From how passionately you're speaking, it's clear that you're a thoughtful and intelligent young adult who genuinely cares about the future of your people. Whether or not we agree on every point, I truly respect that part. I just believe that we need to approach these conversations in a healthy, constructive way where our criticism comes from a place of wanting to build, not tear down.
I don't care too much because I'm from Somaliland at the end of the day. Having said that it's perfectly normal to criticise Somalia and not get upset or waste my energy. People will quickly assume I'm depressed because I give my cents on Somalia being a failed state. It's just the truth. A brutal one and until I see changes I'm going to continously point out Somalia weakness.
 

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I don't care too much because I'm from Somaliland at the end of the day. Having said that it's perfectly normal to criticise Somalia and not get upset or waste my energy. People will quickly assume I'm depressed because I give my cents on Somalia being a failed state. It's just the truth. A brutal one and until I see changes I'm going to continously point out Somalia weakness.
Do you think people care about the difference between SL & Somalia? I’m not being rude but I think a break from the internet would benefit you. I promise I’m not being rude when I say this
 

Sigmundd

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Do you think people care about the difference between SL & Somalia? I’m not being rude but I think a break from the internet would benefit you. I promise I’m not being rude when I say this
Obviously most people don't know the difference but there's definatley a rise in people knowing the difference thanks to Somaliland good pr on YouTube. I don't think I need a break since I removed myself from sub threads were I didn't want to keep reading and doom scrolling. I only click on threads that I'm fine with to discuss.
 
People can assume whatever they like about Somalia. In the end the most important thing is that we know who we are and what we are capable of. The dogs can keep barking but the caravan moves forward.

One day all of the haters will be shocked when they find out the reality of Somalia, by then it will be too late. In the meantime let them console themselves by creating false perceptions in the hopes of just carrying on while we slowly rise up and thrive.
 
Nigeria, like Ethiopia, is a colonial construct of varying ethnic groups that all despise one another, it has no business existing. #FreeBiafra
 
I don't care too much because I'm from Somaliland at the end of the day. Having said that it's perfectly normal to criticise Somalia and not get upset or waste my energy. People will quickly assume I'm depressed because I give my cents on Somalia being a failed state. It's just the truth. A brutal one and until I see changes I'm going to continously point out Somalia weakness.

I added this part before you quoted me:
I criticize Somalia all the time too, but I don't overlook the progress that's been made. If improving our public image/PR is really your goal, wouldn't it make more sense to highlight those achievements and give credit where it's due?
This still stands. Constant criticism without acknowledging growth ends up reinforcing the very narrative we’re supposedly trying to fight. If you only ever speak of failure, don’t be surprised when people believe Somalia is beyond saving even when that’s not the reality.

Also Somalia has never been a failed state, as i explained here:
The stateless narrative comes not from interpretation of our history, it comes from successive attempts to remove local government and impose a Somali government from the outside and then have it be rejected in turn.

See Afwerki the Leader of Eritrea explain it


It didn't even start since the 90s they have been trying this since the 70s, all the leadership assassination attempts, foreign sponsored coup attempts and proxy militia groups happened during the Kacaan period.

They don't want to see an independent self-reliant and strong Somalia that persue it's own interests, that's really what it comes down to. It doesn't help their strategic interests. The "failed state" label was pushed by foreign powers to justify military intervention, political interference, and economic exploitation.

Even now it's not really a stateless society, it has functioning regional states that mostly act as facilitators for trade and security. They can try to weaken Somalia’s statehood, but they cannot destroy its economic resilience. That's why Somalia always bounces back.

What it is is a country with multiple functional local and regional governments, Somaliland being one of them.


Somaliland is still politically tied to the rest of the country. It receives domestic grants from Mogadishu, and its economy is linked with the rest of Somalia as well as the Somali region of Ethiopia (Ogaden). The lines are more blurred than people assume.


And just to clarify. I never said you were depressed. I don’t know your mental state, and I’m not your psychiatrist or your doctor. What I said was general meant not just for you, but for any Somalis reading this thread.


At the end of the day, we need to focus on what truly matters: building our country, strengthening our institutions, and amplifying what’s already working. If our critiques don’t lead us in that direction, then what’s the point?
 
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Everytime something happens there they have to mention us it's acc crazy, just like when the 2024 GDP per capita dropped they were comparing with Somalia

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