What Somalia and Japan have in common...?

[Regg]

Japan went from this when clannism was strongly rooted in their culture.

To this in the early 20th century when they went from savages and tribalist to the STRONGEST leading power in the entire Asian continent.

Then today in modern Japan where tribalism no longer exist and people have embraced nationalism. Now people are united as ONE.

The Somalis shared a lot of things in common with Japanese in the past. They were both tribal and were only loyal to their clan or sub clans. They both fought other tribes over land, resources and dominance for centuries.

Meanwhile in Somalia, in 2017, they still have the tribal mentality and continue to fight over their clan territories, resources and view other tribes as some sort of eternal enemies.

What stopped Somalia from doing what the Japanese did? Couldn't they abolish tribalism like Japan?

 

[Sixth]

@Tramo @DuctTape they've got a Triforce clan, Koji Kondo was a qabiilist.

 

[DuctTape]

@Tramo @DuctTape they've got a Triforce clan, Koji Kondo was a qabiilist.

Suldaan Kondo holds the Triforce of Qabyaalad

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Japan had 15 clans and they fought for a 150 years until nobunaga &leiuylasu conquers everyone both coming from relative small clans, the difference is that everyone meddles in our affairs for the first 10 years of the civil war Ethiopia flooded us with weopens and tried to keep the status quo

 

[SultanuuFicaan]

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Japan had 15 clans and they fought for a 150 years until nobunaga &leiuylasu conquers everyone both coming from relative small clans, the difference is that everyone meddles in our affairs for the first 10 years of the civil war Ethiopia flooded us with weopens and tried to keep the status quo

Chinese warring state period lasted longer too, Qin eventually won but they would too collapse within the next 3 decades...

 

[Regg]

the difference is that everyone meddles in our affairs for the first 10 years of the civil war Ethiopia flooded us with weopens and tried to keep the status quo

Are you forgetting that Japan was meddled for the whole 20th century, is surrounded by enemies, they can't built a military and is totally under US control? In other word, US colony?

The problem is not the outsiders that are meddling you, it's your tribes who are doing it.

 

[Prince Abubu]

Don't compare us to Japan. Completely different societies and histories.

 

[Inactive]

Absolutely nothing other than living on the same Earth

 

[MadNomad]

Don't compare us to Japan. Completely different societies and histories.

The point being made here is that most countries in this world were originally tribal. People of the same ethnic group were once only loyal to their own clan or tribe, and would often end up fighting each other. Difference is they moved on, they united, they advanced. Somalis are still here today with this tribalistic mentality.

 

[Prince Abubu]

The point being made here is that most countries in this world were originally tribal. People of the same ethnic group were once only loyal to their own clan or tribe, and would often end up fighting each other. Difference is they moved on, they united, they advanced. Somalis are still here today with this tribalistic mentality.

The level of sophistication the Japanese reached during the Edo period has no Somali counterpart. Like I said, oranges and apples. They had a history of strong central government before and after the Sengoku period. Somalia didn't have a central government and writing system until the middle of the 20th century.

 

[Apollo]

Japan is a racist country that doesn't allow immigration because of their Japanese supremacist attitudes.

They need more diversity. What a boring place.

 

[MadNomad]

The level of sophistication the Japanese reached during the Edo period has no Somali counterpart. Like I said, oranges and apples. They had a history of strong central government before and after the Sengoku period. Somalia didn't have a central government and writing system until the middle of the 20th century.

Japan is not the only united country that was originally tribal. Same history can be found in Europe. They moved on and united under their respective ethnic groups. Even the Arabs moved on from tribalism, what does that say about Somalis?

 

[MadNomad]

Japan is a racist country that doesn't allow immigration because of their Japanese supremacist attitudes.

They need more diversity. What a boring place.

Aren't you the one who always goes on about how diversity equals crime, ala Swedishstan?

 

[Apollo]

Aren't you the one who always goes on about how diversity equals crime, ala Swedishstan?

Diversity is good. It increases creativity and innovation.

East Asians are copy cats. Westerners are the innovators.

 

[MadNomad]

Diversity is good. It increases creativity and innovation.

East Asians are copy cats. Westerners are the innovators.

What creativity or innovation has Muslim immigration brought to Europe? #REMOVEKEBAB :siilaanyolaugh:

 

[Apollo]

What creativity or innovation has Muslim immigration brought to Europe? #REMOVEKEBAB :siilaanyolaugh:

Steve Jobs' (Apple) father was a Syrian refugee. Migrants obtain patents at twice the rate of native born Westerners.

Open borders is counter-inventively good for the economy.

 

[MadNomad]

Steve Jobs' (Apple) father was a Syrian refugee. Migrants obtain patents at twice the rate of native born Westerners.

Open borders is counter-inventively good for the economy.

So i'm assuming you've changed your hard-line anti refugee position?

 

[Apollo]

Japan GDP (PPP) per capita $37,322
Norway GDP (PPP) per capita $61,197
USA GDP (PPP) per capita $56,116

Multiculturalism clearly wins.

 

[MadNomad]

Japan GDP (PPP) per capita $37,322
Norway GDP (PPP) per capita $61,197
USA GDP (PPP) per capita $56,116

Multiculturalism clearly wins.

Go ahead and compare the crime rates while you're at it as well. Japan let in only 27 refugees last year, two of them were arrested for gang rape of a Japanese woman. What are the odds

https://www.google.se/amp/www.tokyo...ish-asylum-seekers-in-gang-rape-of-woman/amp/

For clarification, i'm not against Multiculturalism. But clearly there's some downsides when integration fails

 

[Apollo]

Go ahead and compare the crime rates while you're at it as well. Japan let in only 27 refugees last year, two of them were arrested for gang rape of a Japanese woman. What are the odds

https://www.google.se/amp/www.tokyo...ish-asylum-seekers-in-gang-rape-of-woman/amp/

For clarification, i'm not against Multiculturalism. But clearly there's some downsides when integration fails

I rather be richer with slightly more crime than live in a boring monotonous society like Japan.

Japanese culture is so conformist it's almost disgusting.