What is your controversial take (history/politics)??

Shimbiris

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What can I do?? Let me get involved too. Ill secretly run a secularist agenda on the sly as the head of affairs along with @Periplus only to have my secret plans karbaashed by @Bundasliga. My martyrdom however will be a sign for change and the country will grow and prosper...

Whatever you want so long as you kiss our rings and pay your respects. Also, don't get caught until you have enough public supporters or we'll have to disavow, arrest and execute you to appease the Shacab and the Shaykhs.

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It's not all doom and gloom, Somalia has been recording improvements every year for around a decade now, in 2050 it is going to have a much, much higher quality of life for the average person than it is currently despite the population growing constantly.

I think technology will be our saving grace. Somalia is always going to be relatively poor even compared to most African countries. If you ran a computer simulation on Somalia a million times there'd always be a cap on the level of development that's much lower than the likes of DRC/Gabon/Mozambique due to a limitation on natural resources. Even bigger more violent hellholes like the DRC, south Sudan or the Central African Republic have better prospects than us due to that. Somalia's biggest issue isn't terrorism, federalism or tribalism, the root of all it's issues is that it's a stupidly resource poor nation, of course you work with what you have, but it is what it is.
It also hurts that most of our fertile land is in Ethiopia somali region. Our only hope is try control Ethiopia and bring settlers from Somalia into more fertile land
 

Dharbash

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4.5 is the worst system of governance in the world, unless we get rid of it, Somalia will never see major improvements.

Power should be based on what you have shown/merit, not inherited
 

Xoxoxo

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How is malaysia, qatar, bahrain, kuwait, oman, morocco, and Indonesia secular?
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They have shariah in all those countries.
Indonesia is definitely secular and they don’t follow Sharia as a law, they just implanted it.

It’s just Mainly Malaysia, Turkey, UAE and Oman. Indonesia isn’t as great and don’t let me start on Morocco lmao
 

Periplus

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What can I do?? Let me get involved too. Ill secretly run a secularist agenda on the sly as the head of affairs along with @Periplus only to have my secret plans karbaashed by @Bundasliga. My martyrdom however will be a sign for change and the country will grow and prosper...

We will turn the northern beaches of Somalia into a Somali riveria with nightlife and casinos for wealthy Arab tourists. Then we will use CCTV footage to blackmail them into pursuing Somali agenda.

This is how we achieve Somaliweyn.

:trumpsmirk:
 

Periplus

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Indonesia is definitely secular and they don’t follow Sharia as a law, they just implanted it.

It’s just Mainly Malaysia, Turkey, UAE and Oman. Indonesia isn’t as great and don’t let me start on Morocco lmao

Malaysia and Indonesia have sharia for their Muslim populations. But there is widespread corruption and a lot of Muslims get around the sharia rules there.
 

Xoxoxo

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Malaysia and Indonesia have sharia for their Muslim populations. But there is widespread corruption and a lot of Muslims get around the sharia rules there.
Indonesia only has that law but doesn’t live with it which is different compared to Malaysia that actually follows it.

Indonesia has a huge problem with its sex industry & Prostitution. Similar to the other SEA counties like Thailand & Vietnam, Indonesia has a huge problem with sex tourism, prostitution & Human trafficking (especially children and young women are a victim off this, an estimated 100.000 are trafficked every year). You can’t really put Indonesia with Malaysia and other Islam if countries in the list. Their government could also care less that white old European men come to Indonesia to take advantage off the children there.

Edit: Indonesia also has a growing number of AIDS infections every year (4th fast growing, also fastest Islamic country too) thanks to the government not giving any fucks to shut off its disgusting illegal sex industry and prostitution. So no Indonesia is not a good example off an Islamic country that has sharia law. They don’t follow it throughly.
 
Personally I even think a dictatorship is the best thing we could have. The current generation can’t be trusted in any way of form.

Yes, but presumably the individual you wish to entrust with all of that power comes from the very generation you don't trust; every African Country is essentially a dictatorship and that's not helped any of them at all.

The Kacaan dictatorship destroyed the Nation and a repeat of that is precisely what a dictatorship would guarantee.
 
Do you mean organised? You don't need an authoritarian State in order to have organisation.
I’m open to a dictatorship but also I really would love to see China’s government system being implemented in Somalia and Africa.

Western democracy doesn’t work and we can see this all throughout the world. It’s not efficient and effective like chinas government
 
It's not all doom and gloom, Somalia has been recording improvements every year for around a decade now, in 2050 it is going to have a much, much higher quality of life for the average person than it is currently despite the population growing constantly.

I think technology will be our saving grace. Somalia is always going to be relatively poor even compared to most African countries. If you ran a computer simulation on Somalia a million times there'd always be a cap on the level of development that's much lower than the likes of DRC/Gabon/Mozambique due to a limitation on natural resources. Even bigger more violent hellholes like the DRC, south Sudan or the Central African Republic have better prospects than us due to that. Somalia's biggest issue isn't terrorism, federalism or tribalism, the root of all it's issues is that it's a stupidly resource poor nation, of course you work with what you have, but it is what it is.
The situation certainly improved for the local population thanks to technology and stability which helped the market but the government is still extremely weak, it only controls the capital city and doesn't have an army. So I think the status quo will prevail, people won't be as poor as they are today in 2050 but the government will still be weak, thus the country will remain stateless.

Somalia already has a lot of resources like oil and Uranium, and you don't need resources to build a country. Having resources can sometimes be a curse as some countries like Algeria are dependant on oil and some countries like Botswana are dependant on diamond exports, Morocco doesn't have any resources but it's still better than most North African countries.
The problem with this country is a lack of unity, you can't build a country with a lack of government. Otherwise it's just a bunch of city states without army rather than a unified country.
 
I’m open to a dictatorship but also I really would love to see China’s government system being implemented in Somalia and Africa.

Western democracy doesn’t work and we can see this all throughout the world. It’s not efficient and effective like chinas government

I don't think you fully grasp the sort of dystopia you're advocating for; in addition to suffocating the citizenry with its absolute power, the Chinese model isn't as efficient as you would think, because there is no dissent or institutional corrective measures in place.

I personally believe that the Government should be comprised of Citizens Assemblies and technical departments or Ministries that are not subject to candidate based electoralism; unlike in the West, the Head of each Ministry should be a qualified technician from that department.

Councillors, Mayors, Governors and President's should not be elected; instead of being a sectarian fueled, glorified popularity contest, politics should be transformed into a technical profession that requires a Masters in constitutional law: a degree in Management and leadership; and (depending on the level) a degree in economics.
 
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reer

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I don't think you fully grasp the sort of dystopia you're advocating for; in addition to suffocating the citizenry with its absolute power, the Chinese model isn't as efficient as you would think, because there is no dissent.

I personally believe that the Government should be comprised of Citizens Assemblies and technical departments or Ministries that are not subject to candidate based electoralism; unlike the West, the Head of each Ministry should be a qualified technician from that department.

Councillors, Mayors, Governors and President's should not be elected; instead of being a sectarian fueled, glorified popularity contest, politics should be transformed into a technical profession that requires a Masters in constitutional law: a degree in Management and leadership; and (depending on the level) a degree in economics.

somalia is a country full of extreme traitors. when i say extreme traitors i mean those who pimp the country to its arch enemies. and a populace who are beaten and battered by 3 decades of crap. there has to be a dictatorship with a chokehold on politics like north korea or the maggots will sell pimp out somalia. like they did in the days of colonialism. and they do today.
 

Omar del Sur

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the official story of the Mongol empire makes no sense and I think it's fake.

the population of Mongolia is said to be around three million. Back in the 1200's, according to Google it was around 800,000.

let's assume half are men and half are women. so 400,000 men if every single man is enlisted.

400,000... and they invade China, Russia, the Abbasids, Europe- they're engaged in all these wars with that small a population?????

and how come they're not a big geopolitical deal anymore? you don't hear anything about them. the Turks lost their empire yet you still hear about Turkey. and I assume Turkey's population is a bit more than three million. China's population is supposed to be over a billion, I don't know the numbers back then. and now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the Mongols are said to have invaded to have invaded India too.

how do they with so small population do all of what they are said to have done? it makes no sense.
 

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