What is this Bantu woman saying, and is she valid?

[Espaa_]

it is worrying how some have the belief that they're indigenous to Somalia. every city in Somalia particularly the south should make the ethnic somali population more than 95 percent so we don't have to worry about these rhetoric since they're always will be a minority. That would be my proposal. The audacity of some of them to really spread misinformation, people just using our name to spread hate and we are an easy target. If these bantus hate us why wont they leave Somalia. They shouldn't even be there if they hate us.

Dont take this as an offensive thing sis but they are our brothers and sisters in the south. This is a minority of diaspora somali bantus who act like this. Majority of us see them as normal people who go about their day to day life.

Even if they hate us southern somalia is their land as they have been there for hundreds of years, with some communities like shiidle being there for thousands of years and are remnants of either bantu expansion or omotic migration. Not all of them come from the $Iave trade.

you are from the north so your ideas and knowledge are different. We have bajuunis who are swahili admixed islanders, boni, aweer, barawaani, reer xamar, bantu, ogaden, marehan, hawiye, reewin, majeerteen, tunni and many many others not stated. We live together happily even with the clan wars with each group having its own land in the south.

 

[Sigmundd]

Dont take this as an offensive thing sis but they are our brothers and sisters in the south. This is a minority of diaspora somali bantus who act like this. Majority of us see them as normal people who go about their day to day life.

Even if they hate us southern somalia is their land as they have been there for hundreds of years, with some communities like shiidle being there for thousands of years and are remnants of the bantu expansion. Not all of them come from the $Iave trade

you are from the north so your ideas and knowledge are different. We have bajuunis who are swahili admixed people, bonu,aweer,barawe,reer xamar,bantu and many many others not stated. We live together happily and in harmony

I know only a minority thinks this way that's why I said some. Most are miskeen and don't Hold those belief but we should check them just incase they try to brainwash the rest. And only those thst hold those dangerous views shouldn't remain in Somalia in No way did I say bantu Somalis should leave since like you said is there home.

 

[novanova]

Dont take this as an offensive thing sis but they are our brothers and sisters in the south. This is a minority of diaspora somali bantus who act like this. Majority of us see them as normal people who go about their day to day life.

Even if they hate us southern somalia is their land as they have been there for hundreds of years, with some communities like shiidle being there for thousands of years and are remnants of the bantu expansion. Not all of them come from the $Iave trade

Bantu expansion? Sis there is no evidence for any of this. How can they have expanded all the way to southern Somalia but have no presence in nfd?

all of them are descendants of slaves, some arrived pre colonialism and some came with the italians

 

[Espaa_]

Bantu expansion? Sis there is no evidence for any of this. How can they have expanded all the way to southern Somalia but have no presence in nfd?

all of them are descendants of slaves, some arrived pre colonialism and some came with the italians

Nope shiidle and a few other tribes have always been there. They arent even bantu. they are “pre cushitic” hunter gatherers who have always lived there. When ethnic somalis started travelling south from the north did you think that area was uninhabited?

theres already been a thread on this topic:

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/regarding-bantus-in-somalia.168349/

 

[Espaa_]

I know only a minority thinks this way that's why I said some. Most are miskeen and don't Hold those belief but we should check them just incase they try to brainwash the rest. And only those thst hold those dangerous views shouldn't remain in Somalia in No way did I say bantu Somalis should leave since like you said is there home.

Should leave and go where sis? If a hawiye or darood or isaaq or D&M engages in fkd and has a dangerous ideology about other clans should they go back home?

they should instead be taught their history such as “ethnic” somalis migrated from the north (debated) whereas some bantus came to the south via the $Iave trade and some hunter gatherers always remained in the south. During the oromo expansion some omotic people from the south of ethiopia followed the river into jubbaland and settled there. Everyone has a different origin story and we are all equally as native. Diversity is our strength

 

[unfunnymali]

You guys sound like white people

 

[novanova]

Nope shiidle and a few other tribes have always been there. They arent even bantu. they are “pre cushitic” hunter gatherers who have always lived there. When ethnic somalis started travelling south from the north did you think that area was uninhabited?

theres already been a thread on this topic:

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/regarding-bantus-in-somalia.168349/

I’ve read this thread, it’s nothing but theories, some are even outdated

 

[unfunnymali]

Yes, you all sound like racist white people. Silencing thier voices and erasing their history just because it doesn't fit your clan agenda? Just like racist white colonizers, you don't get to decide who belongs and who doesn't

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Yes, you all sound like racist white people. Silencing thier voices and erasing their history just because it doesn't fit your clan agenda? Just like racist white colonizers, you don't get to decide who belongs and who doesn't

How can you compare ethnic Somalis to colonizers clearly your trolling

 

[novanova]

Yes, you all sound like racist white people. Silencing thier voices and erasing their history just because it doesn't fit your clan agenda? Just like racist white colonizers, you don't get to decide who belongs and who doesn't

It’s a public platform it’s impossible to silence them lol. This is some weird shit idpol grifters would say whenever someone would disagree with what they say.

erasing their history? In what way?

Somalis are native to this land, colonizers?

 

[Espaa_]

I’ve read this thread, it’s nothing but theories, some are even outdated

Makane and shiidle arent bantu at all. If you think somalis and arabs transported a large number of them then you are wrong. Humans are humans and have always intermingled and migrated. They are native to southern somalia however the vast majority arent native I will say that

 

[novanova]

Makane and shiidle arent bantu at all.

says who? I think they’re mixed hence their appearance but they seem bantu in origin. I’d love to see their dna results

 

[Espaa_]

says who? I think they’re mixed hence their appearance but they seem bantu in origin. I’d love to see their dna results

This guy is the descendant of bantu en$Iaved people and the Ethiopian result which confirms the theory as shiidle and makane claim to come from the omotic ethiopian people and went down the river.
However he is warday ali which is a somalized oromo clan which might also explain the result


we need more somali jreerweyn taking dna tests

 

[Gracias]

Yes, you all sound like racist white people. Silencing thier voices and erasing their history just because it doesn't fit your clan agenda? Just like racist white colonizers, you don't get to decide who belongs and who doesn't

What agenda? She can’t tell you how her people have contributed to our culture but finds the time to lie & say that we’re invaders from Ethiopia. Why can’t she give us a few examples if what she’s saying is true?

 

[Espaa_]

What agenda? She can’t tell you how her people have contributed to our culture but finds the time to lie & say that we’re invaders from Ethiopia. Why can’t she give us a few examples if what she’s saying is true?

Be in her position and see how it feels like to be belittled by other people. In the west especially the diaspora we take the piss out of their ethnic group however they live together in peace back home. She obviously will have some prejudice however that is to retaliate against the sheer discrimination we give them. They have contributed to our culture by rebuilding our homes and roads and work jobs no one wants to work. They farm and create food for our people in the jubba and shabelle rivers. They are artisans and are talented people masha Allah

i agree that what she is saying is false. Its projection because we always tell them that they are not from somalia. Shes got the right to do it back to us, see how it feels.

a black cant be racist to a white person. In this case, the oppressed cannot oppress the oppressor

 

[Gracias]

Be in her position and see how it feels like to be belittled by other people. In the west especially the diaspora we take the piss out of their ethnic group however they live together in peace back home. She obviously will have some prejudice however that is to retaliate against the sheer discrimination we give them. They have contributed to our culture by rebuilding our homes and roads and work jobs no one wants to work. They farm and create food for our people in the jubba and shabelle rivers. They are artisans and are talented people masha Allah

i agree that what she is saying is false. It’s projection because we always tell them that they are not from somalia. Shes got the right to do it back to us, see how it feels.

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[novanova]

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[Riftvalley]

Omg she’s in the comments saying somalis came from Ethiopia LOL, I know what time she’s on

Shows how dumb she is. Somalis have continually inhabited Ethiopia, Somalia and Kenya way before any Bantus. People often confuse modern ethnicities and modern nation states with defined borders. Adari or Harar, as an example, was always more religiously and culturally tied to people in Hargeysa as opposed to some Orthodox gaalo Amhara.

 

[Sigmundd]

Should leave and go where sis? If a hawiye or darood or isaaq or D&M engages in fkd and has a dangerous ideology about other clans should they go back home?

they should instead be taught their history such as “ethnic” somalis migrated from the north (debated) whereas some bantus came to the south via the $Iave trade and some hunter gatherers always remained in the south. During the oromo expansion some omotic people from the south of ethiopia followed the river into jubbaland and settled there. Everyone has a different origin story and we are all equally as native. Diversity is our strength

Than they need a reprogramming scheme. Because I refuse these type of ideology should be expanded. We also need to increase the ethnic Somali population so they will forever be a minority.

 

[Espaa_]

Than they need a reprogramming scheme. Because I refuse these type of ideology should be expanded. We also need to increase the ethnic Somali population so they will forever be a minority.

Icl i didnt wanna say this but stick to SL politics and other regions where its strictly “ethnic” somali. We in the south are happy with them regardless of ideology. Dont bring that here. We accept them whether they are majority or minority. We should increase intermarriage with them in fact and break these stereotypes.

insha Allah I see a government made up of diverse individuals from all somali backgrounds and dialects and I see the racist 4.5 system dismantled.

Allah said in the Quran. We have created you into different colours and tribes so that you may get to know one another