What is Salafism and what does it call to?

[nomadicblood]

Wasnt it them who overthrew the othoman empire the empire that fought against west?
And when they where overthrew what did this Salafis acomplish apart from misery to the muslim world?

What´s your opinion on this article?

Part 1. Kitāb at-Tawhīd: An amazing authorship and journey into the history of Saudi Arabia and Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahhāb.

(The following is a summarised transcript) Part A: Today, we will begin (inshaa Allaah), a new book – an explanation of the greatest of all fundamentals of Islaam, and that is the fundamental of Ta…

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[nomadicblood]

Damn bro it took you that long? I just finished taking a jog

anyways like i said i dont know much about this other than i dont like something that tells people to blow themself up and people who brought down the the muslim caliphate othoman empire.
Just to what? I dont trust them for a second these arabs are puppets and lack a spine.

You did not read my comments?


I agree. I also don't like something that tells people to blow themselves.

 

[Genesis]

@Primordial needs to come with proof that Shaykh bin baz said that. How can you take information from Wikipedia, which is a website where everybody can edit something? Two, where is the record where Shaykh bin baz said that? Bring your proof to the table.

And don´t bring Wikipedias not reliable source information.

Pure lies.

Again, this is very common knoweldge. Salafi Sheikhs would issue Fatwa's whenever it suited their geo-political situation. They are scum, and a curse upon Somalia.

War of the fatwas

Saudi Arabia has unleashed its ultimate weapon in its battle against terrorism: Wahhabi clerics armed with fatwas.

www.theguardian.com

 

[المهندس]

Salafiyyah also known as a madkhalism is a movement proposed by corrupt saudi officials to change fiqh rulings in the deen to compensate for government transgressions. its basically a mask for them to do haram while claming it to be halal using these donkey sheikhs as their shield.



Sufism in its pure form is unadulterated shirk clear cut disbelief worshipping graves goes against the root fundamental concept of islam which is tawheed. Other forms of sufism can be tolerated


ISIS , Al shaabab and their likes are paid cia stooges to cause chaos in mineral/oil rich regions so the elites can steal the resources and funnel it back to their home base.


Just pray salah and make tawbah thats it everything else is a part of the 72 sects going hell fire.

 

[Xasusi]

Imagine taking orders from a couple of fanatics from the nadj. They were backwater for 1400 years.

 

[Farabuuto]

Does anyone understand the difference between Wahaabism and Salafism?

 

[المهندس]

Does anyone understand the difference between Wahaabism and Salafism?

Wahaabism- A term coined by the opponents of a saudi imam called muhammad abdul wahhab , the irony is Wahhab is one of Allah's 99 names so they are insulting Allah by mocking his name using it in a derogatory manner as an insult to followers of muhammad abdul wahhab.


Salafism- Saudi made ideology to protect the government and allow the government to do as they please

 

[Xasusi]

Does anyone understand the difference between Wahaabism and Salafism?

Both are new.

 

[Rooble44]

You didn't even read the rest of the post, you are a brainwashed xoolo, no amount of reasoning will fix you.

Salafism has given us nothing but death, destruction, and terrorism.

Alhamdulillah, my region and clan are still predominantly Sufi, and that Sufism is still alive and well in Somalia, we will return to our old ways and send these Salafi dogs to akhirah inshallah

@Samaalic Era

The gulf arabs are literally using Islam to suit their needs, anyone who doesn't see it is stupid. Like I love the religion and everything it stands for, but sometimes I contemplate denouncing islam just so I can distance myself away from these camel-fückers. But then I realise how stupid and reckless that is and stop the thought on its track.

 

[nomadicblood]

Again, this is very common knoweldge. Salafi Sheikhs would issue Fatwa's whenever it suited their geo-political situation. They are scum, and a curse upon Somalia.

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War of the fatwas

Saudi Arabia has unleashed its ultimate weapon in its battle against terrorism: Wahhabi clerics armed with fatwas.

www.theguardian.com

The following hadeeth does indicate that though:

It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr that the Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) one day said: Do you know where the sun goes? They replied: Allaah and His Prophet know best. He (the Prophet) observed: Verily it (the sun) glides till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it falls prostrate and remains there until it is asked: Rise up and go to the place whence you came, and it goes back and continues emerging out from its rising place and then glides till it reaches its place of rest under the Throne and falls prostrate and remains in that state until it is asked: Rise up and return to the place whence you came, and it returns and emerges out from it rising place and the it glides (in such a normal way) that the people do not discern anything ( unusual in it) till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it would be said to it: Rise up and emerge out from the place of your setting, and it will rise from the place of its setting. The Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said. Do you know when it would happen? It would happen at the time when faith will not benefit one who has not previously believed or has derived no good from the faith.

[Sahih Muslim: No. 297]




Our Brother Abu Khadeejah told us that Shaikh Ibn Baaz (rahimahullah) held the view that the Sun goes around the Earth. And He (rahimahullah), used this hadith above as evidence that the Sun revolves around the Earth and NOT the other way round. He also said that the one who rejects this has committed kufr, because he has also rejected the hadith (quoted above), which is proof that the sun orbits the Earth.

Shaikh Ibn Baaz also held the view that the Earth is static and does not move. However, he did not consider the one who rejected this as one who has committed kufr. So if someone holds the opposite view, that the Earth does move, then it is not said that he has committed kufr.

This was mentioned by the brother Abu Khadeejah at the East London Friday circle, (30th January 2003), during the Q&A session.


Now, where is the audio where Shaykh bin baz praised Bin laden?

 

[Misil]

Judging from the replies on the thread so far it seems ppl think Saudi salafism (wahhabi, najdi, call it whatever) is the only form of salafism. The salafi movement in Syria/Jordan has got nothing to do with that man for example, they don't even particularly hold him in a high regard. The Yemeni version which would go on to influence the Indian Ahle Hadith movement has also got nothing do with MIAW. Some of the early Yemeni "Salafis" even criticized him.

This isn't to say the Saudi one is inherently bad and evil like what some postcolonial writers will have you believe, but just to show that there's a wide range of Salafis out there, so it's not fair to paint them all with same brush.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Again, this is very common knoweldge. Salafi Sheikhs would issue Fatwa's whenever it suited their geo-political situation. They are scum, and a curse upon Somalia.

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War of the fatwas

Saudi Arabia has unleashed its ultimate weapon in its battle against terrorism: Wahhabi clerics armed with fatwas.

www.theguardian.com

The Guardian. Aren't they also in favor of homo imams?

 

[Lum]

The Guardian. Aren't they also in favor of homo imams?

Guardian as a source makes no sense. They are not in favor of Islam.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Guardian as a source makes no sense. They are not in favor of Islam.

It's like taking your fataawa from Huffington Post.

 

[Lum]

It's like taking your fataawa from Huffington Post.

Kinda suprised. I already stated that Shaykh Bin Baz, and Shaykh Muqbil warned against Bin Laden in the 90s.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Kinda suprised. I already stated that Shaykh Bin Baz, and Shaykh Muqbil warned against Bin Laden in the 90s.

I don't get this whole thing of claiming Salafis are in favor of ISIS type stuff. Anyone who knows the basics of Salafiyyah knows that's not the case. Anyone who knows Salafis or goes to a Salafi mosque should be well aware that Salafis consider ISIS, Al Shabaab etc. as khawarij.

If people have some strong proof against Salafis, why use arguments that are blatantly false?

 

[Lum]

I don't get this whole thing of claiming Salafis are in favor of ISIS type stuff. Anyone who knows the basics of Salafiyyah knows that's not the case. Anyone who knows Salafis or goes to a Salafi mosque should be well aware that Salafis consider ISIS, Al Shabaab etc. as khawarij.

If people have some strong proof against Salafis, why use arguments that are blatantly false?

Agreed. Scholars such as Shaykh Fawzan as warned against them.

 

[Lum]

Agreed. Scholars such as Shaykh Fawzan have warned against them.

 

[Xasusi]

That is what all muslims have been doing for 1400+ years now.

Wrong hejaz and Nadj are different people.

 

[Cyrus]

Salafism is the truth Alhamdulilah, many misguided souls on this thread may Allah guide them all