What is Ayaan Hersi up to nowadays?

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Her father was a member of SSDF and went to Columbia University :leon:
 
Don't tell me she's a national treasure when she's been convicted of crimes.

There is no evidence to support that claim. She did lie on citizenship form but that is a civil matter not a criminal one.

She is one the very few Somali philosophers we have in modern times, and even though I disagree with her policy views it is refreshing and needed that we lay bare the brutality of how Islam is being interpreted and how it is incompatible with modern world.
 
She's absolutely a convicted crimininal.

Her opinion on Islam does not make her a philosopher. You know what makes you a philosopher, having relevant experience and education to become one. What philosophic issues does she address?

As for her views on Islam, as a former atheist I can tell you her views are uneducated, and she appears to be incapable of separating her Somali culture experience from Islam itself. Which is a religion that is intertwined across many cultures, societies and continents. The greatest philosophers works were translated by Islamic philosophers from Greek, and simultaneously critiqued. How can she argue Islam is incompatibile with our modern values when it was Muslims who brought these values to life by translating and debating them when they were in a dead language.
 
She's absolutely a convicted crimininal.

Her opinion on Islam does not make her a philosopher. You know what makes you a philosopher, having relevant experience and education to become one. What philosophic issues does she address?

As for her views on Islam, as a former atheist I can tell you her views are uneducated, and she appears to be incapable of separating her Somali culture experience from Islam itself. Which is a religion that is intertwined across many cultures, societies and continents. The greatest philosophers works were translated by Islamic philosophers from Greek, and simultaneously critiqued. How can she argue Islam is incompatibile with our modern values when it was Muslims who brought these values to life by translating and debating them when they were in a dead language.

I have watched some of her interviews on youtube, her knowledge in general (not only islamic) seems superficial and her english isn't good. To call her some great philosopher is a mischaracterisation. She has raised awareness about FGM, herself being a victim, so I'll give her that :obama:
 
She's absolutely a convicted crimininal.

Her opinion on Islam does not make her a philosopher. You know what makes you a philosopher, having relevant experience and education to become one. What philosophic issues does she address?

As for her views on Islam, as a former atheist I can tell you her views are uneducated, and she appears to be incapable of separating her Somali culture experience from Islam itself. Which is a religion that is intertwined across many cultures, societies and continents. The greatest philosophers works were translated by Islamic philosophers from Greek, and simultaneously critiqued. How can she argue Islam is incompatibile with our modern values when it was Muslims who brought these values to life by translating and debating them when they were in a dead language.

Meaning of philosophy and distinction

Philosophy is daring to question systems and ask big question about existence and the way the world should be organized, her sub-set of philosophy is akin to "retfilosofi" in danish meaning how the state should organized, under what ideals and the problems islam causes to basic institutional building.

She is far from uneducated and has studied the islamic scriptures and the history of Islam and its implication for the current world.

She makes a clear distinction between spiritual islam, meaning the religious act and belief and political islam which is building a state society based on islamic principles, where only the latter is problematic.

Modern values:
She can make the argument very effectively by contrasting political islam in both its historic and modern form with the framework of secular states and in that make the argument that political islam does not guarantee basic rights, breaks with the principle of seperating mosque and state from directly influencing each other, concentration of power to an elite of religious scholars, faillure to meet even basic equality between the genders in opportunity.

The defense of apologist is to treat to the culture argument, when reality is the Islam that is compatible with basic Western norms such political freedoms, personal freedom, seperation of power does not exist and as such it is a systematic faillure across all cultures and therefore not just "culture" problem.

@Knowles what is your two cents?
 
The defense of apologist is to treat to the culture argument, when reality is the Islam that is compatible with basic Western norms such political freedoms, personal freedom, seperation of power does not exist and as such it is a systematic faillure across all cultures and therefore not just "culture" problem.

@Knowles what is your two cents?
Apologies I am on phone.
First of all, these are not basic. And the usage basic already suggests there is a presumption of superiority being made.

Can you list personal freedoms that Islam does not offer to individuals, bearing in mind, Islam iself is a choice and no person is expected to be compelled to be a Muslim according to the Qur'an itself?

Can you also list politicial freedoms that Islam forbids, bearing in mind Islam itself is a choice and one simply can choose to not be a Muslim if they want these political freedoms they view in odds with Islam.

Systematic failure across all cultures?
Can you point to me a country that is governing its people in accordance with Qur'an? The world has been around longer than the past 90 odd years. There were plenty and, dominant and more successful societies, all considered under Islam rule and were doing just fine.

You must take a nominative approach of Islam just like you do everything else. Islam is something with a written text you can point directly to and criticise, so do so. But be sincere and fair minded and don't blame it for what a culture does when said culture or society has no basis for doing so in Islam.

Case in point FGM and forced marriages.
 
Ayaan Hersi being the premier anti-muslim activist from the 2000s (what a time :banderas:), I am wondering why she isn't commenting on the refugee crisis in Europe for breibart and fox news..her being a refugee who faked her documents might be why:lolbron:
 
Ayan Hersi is a sellout who panders to the right wing in any way she can I think she majority does it because she’s scarred of her own life experiences and has tied it to Islam or it’s the best way to make a buck. Sad.
 
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Ayan Hersi is a sellout who panders to the right wing in any way she can I think she majority does it because she’s scarred of her own life experiences and has tied it to Islam or it’s the best way to make a buck. Sad.

The right wing has become more white nationalist and anti-immigration as of late rather than purely anti-muslim, must be why she has lost her foothold in the right wing commentary arena. A Somali, refugee, illegal immigrant woman just can't resonate with the modern conservative unfortunately :trumpsmirk:

She made a good move to marry that cadaan guy because her money making days peddling muslim hysteria are over.
 
The right wing has become more white nationalist and anti-immigration as of late rather than purely anti-muslim, must be why she has lost her foothold in the right wing commentary arena. A Somali, refugee, illegal immigrant woman just can't resonate with the modern conservative unfortunately :trumpsmirk:

She made a good move to marry that cadaan guy because her money making days peddling muslim hysteria are over.

Looool qosol ..
I googled her now and apparently she agreed with Trump on the ban on Muslim majority countries and I wondered if she converted to Judaism and apparently she tried but gave up because it was too hard idk why but that made me laugh you would think she would be athiest for life ... Idc she was deffo tryna make as much lacaag as she could :ftw9nwa:
 

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She was part of the Atheist debate wave. That shit got boring. People don't give a f*ck about the debates anymore, so they don't rate her. She should of made more books and stuck to a theme where she gain a following and make documentaries like her husband. She doesn't know how to the play the game, and so she's now not even in the board anymore homie.
 
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