What is a murtad?

[Zhang he]

Okay , when you mentioned these two concepts are intrinsically bound , then why aren't you acknowledging that for thousands of years our ancestors were practitioners of Waaq , before embracing Islam , but since you believe Somalinimo necessitates islamnimo. Then do you believe Somalis were nothing , had no culture , history before embracing Islam?
do we even know what ancestors went through ,
Something is odd there , the expansion in the horn had altered and distorted people's lineages and created vacuum of conflicting narratives

I'll have to safe you from humiliation sxb your statement is contradictory
It's funny how you're quick to label someone a non Somali without thinking thoroughly.
Nope , Somalis are a xenophobic bunch to clans they despise or those who are considered unworthy and that existed for centuries, so don't even deny that

Waaq



Every time

There is a phenomenon known as concept drift: over such long lengths of time as that you are referring to, the properties of a discrete group like Somalis may change whilst remaining internally and externally recognised as being Somali. The changing of a religion of an ethnic group rarely results in ethnogenesis when there is such a widespread uptake of the new religion.

Point in case, Bosnians. They are considered to be coterminous with Islam within the community and by their neighbours in the Balkans, the Croats and Serbs. This identification powerfully influenced the nature of the Yugoslav wars. However, prior to the Ottoman conquest, they were mainly Christians and adherents of the Bosnian Church. This is concisely depicted in "The Bosnian Muslims: Denial of a Nation" by Francine Friedman.

This doesn't conflict with my previous statements. Somalinimo and Islamnimo remains intrinsically linked thanks to the overwhelming supermajority of Somalis being Muslim and their willingness to ostracise (and, practically, de-Somalise) out-and-out apostates.

I don't see any widespread Waaq practice in Somalia. The whole concept of Waaq within the Somali community has been revived by desperate apostates trying to claim that they are being loyal to their distant ancestors.

If you're not going to be persuaded, at least stop coping so hard on Somalispot. It's embarrassing.

 

[Basra]

Somalis in general have harsh reactions towards those who renounce Islam either being agnostic , atheist or converting to other religions , so expect xenophobia to rise, their world turn upside down when they see a non practicing Somali, it puzzles them and they cannot wrap their heads without around since they hold this concept that Somali identity was formed under the banner of Islam , hence those who leave the fold of Islam Soomaalinimadi wuu ka baxay, which is quite illogical and a stupid way of reasoning,
your genetic component, ethnic make up have nothing to do with religious affiliation but unfortunately the majority tend to believe that both are intertwined and can never be separated.
One can doubt his/her faith but can never be open about it, hence the many people are keeping it private due to the ongoing mob mentality and marginalisation of one's differences.

If we were more tolerant of one's differences and not overly obsessed with then maybe we could address several neglected issues that are a plague in our country

Nonsense.

 

[المهندس]

@Zhang he is destroying these gaals




May Allah reward you for defending the deen sxb from these human devils.

 

[hannah54321]

lol this thread blew up
So basically a non Muslim

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

A scumbag