What if Somalia had American style federalism?
- Thread starter Gaandheri
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Why don’t we simply eliminate the clans that behave like danyeero? The dulmi-doon? Nabad-diid? Uncivilized ones with anarchist mentality?? I mean one should look at who’s causing the problem and not just the problem??
Somalis won’t agree to American style federalism. America federal goverment has a lot of power. Anyone see FGS taxing citizens from every state and clan anytime soon, or them controlling interstate commerce , or all the oceans and making deals with foreigners on behalf of country. States only dealing and talking to fgs for west aid money purposes, otherwise no one would pick up 
if they had own money
if they had own money
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attash
Amaan Duule
I don't know what you are talking about, Dhulbahante subclans can share Sool amongst themselves just fine.
Even if they were capable of doing that there are still isaaqs that live in the western part of it who would much rather share a state with their kinsmen. Anyway the region has a history full of conflict since the gov collapsed.
We can alter the borders. Cayn can join Sool, and the HJ parts of Sool can join Togdheer
Khaem
VIP
Exactly what I think. Not genocide. But it's time we act like a serious state and stop being soft. Any region that acts uncivilised and tries fighting send out a few planes and end the rebellion in a weekend. Eventually every region will know their place and the government can rebuilt the country.
Khaem
VIP
Somaliland was a bit too extreme. I suggest locating and bombing places with active separatists. Wiping off a city from the map like what barre did in Hargeisa with his Indiscriminate airstrikes is only going to make the issue worse as the people seek revenge.That’s how we ended up with Somaliland
Tbh apart from SL there aren’t any separatists. There’s just Al Shabaab and political fighting between the FHS and the FMS. And the SL issue will be handled diplomatically
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So you are suggesting the FGS (made up of one or two clans) attacks all other clans that refuse to submit to it?
The problem with Somalis isn't the mode of governance, it's the low IQ.
No form of government style can work in Somalia. Communism, federalism, sharia you name it, nothing will work until the collective IQ of the country increase by at least 10 points.
No form of government style can work in Somalia. Communism, federalism, sharia you name it, nothing will work until the collective IQ of the country increase by at least 10 points.
Well most african countries even the ones with worse gdp per capita than somalia have governments that have brought stability and are operating to some standard.
So the problem isnt iq, it's something more unique to somalis.
My view is thousands of years of pastorialism have made somali psyche highly resistant to authority, unruly + conflict prone, violent, winner takes all/zero sum mentality and inability to think of the bigger picture.
It has influenced us on a genetic level and the only way to overcome it is mass education and indoctrination/civilizing effort on a state level. First we need to accept our culture and mode of living is deeply unsuited to civillization and state building. So we need to shun pastoralists and their thinking and ways, such as avoidance of fish, hatred of labour and things like stigma against becoming a barber and a butcher. There's so much shit to work with but we needs to start with the idea that certain aspects of our culture is bad and qabiil obviously has to go.
I disagree. Somali people are pretty homogenous in comparison to other African countries, yet those other African countries get alone despite having different ethnic make ups and different religions and cultures. That requires IQ. Somali people have the lowest IQ in the world. I am not even putting this shit on spoiler anymore.
All this destructive stuff and self sabotage shit that we do isn't something that smart or even average intellect people do. No one sells their countries lands and seas to people who hate them, just one example.
Sxb these people are mostly docile, evidence is the numbers in which they got enslaved. Plenty of anecdotal evidence from colonialists that somalis are ressistent to authority unlike the Bantus whom were much easier to manage.
You seriously believe these shithole african countries whom get economically dominated by foreigners even down to their corner shops and produce little of value have a higher iq than somalis whom often take over some areas of their economic sector with no trouble. Dont get me wrong, somalis arent high iq, hell it might even be at the same level as the worst african countries but i refuse to believe its lower. They have a different challenge which is docility.
Somalis sell their land and burn their trees because the country really has no economy and produces absolutely nothing.
And the number one reason for it is the instability which has deterred foreign investment and resource extraction.
You need to remember that somalis biggest enemy whether its in ethiopia (galbeed region), nfd or somalia is another somali qabiil. It makes Somalilands actions a lot more easy to understand.
I wish I was. You can't explain what's happening in any other way.Know your just taking the piss
It's crazy how delusional everyone is lmao!
Even our terrorists are stupid and low IQ because they pledge allegiance to other terrorist groups.
An entire country where everyone is a traitor and you wanna argue we are smart. Give me a fucking break man.
