What do you guys think of Space

[Phiirso]

Personally, I think it's our future. Nothing would make me happier than if all the nations put aside their dumb squabbles and we started to actively explore it but that's just me

 

[Drago]

Years if watching Isaac arthur tells me its dope

 

[Factz]

The earth resources are running out so we will divert our attention to space to support our civilization which lies within the astronauts that contain everything we need including rare minerals. The earth cannot sustain a large growing population so humans will have to become a multi-planetary species in order to increase our survival rate. Unfortunately, nations like to spend most of their wealth on useless defence budget and not on necessary stuff that would benefit humanity like space and science. Either way, humans becoming a spacefaring civilization is inevitable.

 

[Phiirso]

The earth resources are running out so we will divert our attention to space to support our civilization which lies within the astronauts that contain everything we need including rare minerals. The earth cannot sustain a large growing population so humans will have to become a multi-planetary species in order to increase our survival rate. Unfortunately, nations like to spend most of their wealth on useless defence budget and not on necessary stuff that would benefit humanity like space and science. Either way, humans becoming a spacefaring civilization is inevitable.

I was just thinking this was the wrong place to post this but f*ck it.

I agree with you. The resources we can extract from comets, moons, and especially the astroid belt is far more than we would get from Earth. It will also put us on the mindset of space exploration as a means of growth and prosperity, something our curious minds crave.

What is the biggest obstacle to space exploration in your opinion?

 

[General Asad]

Expansive. Vast. Unexplored. Contains creatures and things we have never seen or heard of before.


Sounds cool.

 

[Factz]

I was just thinking this was the wrong place to post this but f*ck it.

I agree with you. The resources we can extract from comets, moons, and especially the astroid belt is far more than we would get from Earth. It will also put us on the mindset of space exploration as a means of growth and prosperity, something our curious minds crave.

What is the biggest obstacle to space exploration in your opinion?

The high cost of leaving the Earth is the major obstacle to further exploration of space. We have space agencies like NASA and Roscosmos that depend on their government fundings but today we live in an exciting era where we have private space agencies such as SpaceX and Blue Origin that are run by wealthy ambitious people are interested in exploring the space and don't need to depend on the government fundings.

 

[Phiirso]

Expansive. Vast. Unexplored. Contains creatures and things we have never seen or heard of before.

Sounds cool.

This is what intrigues me. I was watching the Expanse, and the characters encounter a civilization not of our own realm. I've always figured if Alien species were to exist they'd exist in our own dimension because I mean where else could they be. This show shattered that concept. What if a species is outside time, or space, or both and in a completely different realm to us?

Sounds exciting

The high cost of leaving the Earth is the major obstacle to further exploration of space. We have space agencies like NASA and Roscosmos that depend on their government fundings but today we live in an exciting era where we have private space agencies such as SpaceX and Blue Origin that are run by wealthy ambitious people are interested in exploring the space and don't need to depend on the government fundings.

As much as I am wary of corporations, I think they will be the ones we will rely on for the initial expansion into space. Once money is being made by mining the moon for example, it will propel a rush to space similar to the Gold Rush that happened in California. The technology I'm not really so worried about. With the breathtaking pace at which new technology is being created today, it'll only be a matter of time. Actually since we are about to go into the AI era, it might very well be computers that provide us with these solutions. Either way, this is interesting times.

 

[MI]

I think the fascination with space has the hallmarks of an atheist, though not exclusively atheist, cult. The messiah here being technology, future technology, that will deliver them to a promised land (outer space colonies) with famous Silicon Valley technocrats and the like acting as the preachers that herald these new worlds.

The multitudes of science fiction movies, books, comics et cetera act as scriptures their purpose being to inspire awe and renew the faith of those wed to the cult. The Heaven’s Gate cult is of particular interest since their pathology was typical of what I described here but of a more severe and advanced state.

My personal belief is that the radiation that permeates space, galactic cosmic rays & the vast distances involved just by themselves invalidate the concept of space travel ever moving beyond the theoretical.

I think we should take much better care of the one planet we have instead of dreaming of fertile, virginal, untouched lands beyond our reach.

 

[repo]

I was born too early for the conquest of mars and have no time for day dreaming so I do not think of it. Space exploration is cool and some of the best science fiction out there.

 

[Phiirso]

I think the fascination with space has the hallmarks of an atheist, though not exclusively atheist, cult. The messiah here being technology, future technology, that will deliver them to a promised land (outer space colonies) with famous Silicon Valley technocrats & the like acting as the preachers that herald these new worlds.

The multitudes of science fiction movies, books, comics et cetera acts as scriptures, their purpose being to inspire awe and renew the faith of those wed to the cult. The Heaven’s Gate cult is of particular interest since their pathology was typical of what I described here but of a more severe and advanced state.

My personal belief is that the radiation that permeates space, galactic cosmic rays & the vast distances involved just by themselves invalidate the concept of space travel ever moving beyond the theoretical.

I think we should take much better care of the one planet we have instead of dreaming of fertile, virginal, untouched lands beyond our reach.

Interesting. So would you rather we limit our capacity to do something we could have the ability and know-how to do if not now, then in the near future for the sake of preserving our current understanding of life? I agree, the fascination with space is tantamount with the flirtation of atheism itself because it looks beyond that which we know and belief in this moment.

The main problem isn't the concept itself, but the court you give it in your mind.

For me personally, I disagree that space was not meant to be explored. I am a curious being like you and like all those around us. Our curiosity by itself is the thing that will drive us to space whether we have a functioning planet or not.

 

[MI]

Interesting. So would you rather we limit our capacity to do something we could have the ability and know-how to do if not now, then in the near future for the sake of preserving our current understanding of life? I agree, the fascination with space is tantamount with the flirtation of atheism itself because it looks beyond that which we know and belief in this moment.

The main problem isn't the concept itself, but the court you give it in your mind.

For me personally, I disagree that space was not meant to be explored. I am a curious being like you and like all those around us. Our curiosity by itself is the thing that will drive us to space whether we have a functioning planet or not.

Yes, considering our track record with this planet we honestly don’t even deserve another one even if we could travel to new ones. The current state of humanity is cancerous and I do not wish any further expansion of it. In Ethiopia where I am technically from, about 30% of the country was covered with forest in the beginning of the 20th century, today it’s 4%. You can find other stats like these that fill one with dread for the future.

 

[Phiirso]

Yes, considering our track record with this planet we honestly don’t even deserve another one even if we could travel to new ones. The current state of humanity is cancerous and I do not wish any further expansion of it. In Ethiopia where I am technically from, about 30% of the country was covered with forest in the beginning of the 20th century, today it’s 4%. You can find other stats like these that fill one with dread for the future.

How did you go from equating the idea of space exploration as a step towards atheism to bringing human made morality to whether we even have the right to colonize another planet? The first was an interesting point, and the second is a personal decision of your own making.

You belief we don't deserve another planet because we've trashed this one. Okay, I reject that belief.... ?

 

[MI]

How did you go from equating the idea of space exploration as a step towards atheism to bringing human made morality to whether we even have the right to colonize another planet? The first was an interesting point, and the second is a personal decision of your own making.

You belief we don't deserve another planet because we've trashed this one. Okay, I reject that belief.... ?

Well like I said earlier I don’t believe we can “explore” space, even getting to Mars not to mention building permanent or semipermanent settlements there will be a tremendous challenge. Venturing beyond our solar system is practically an impossibility now or in the foreseeable future, people have a hard time imagining the distances involved.

You’re right in that humanity not deserving another planet is my opinion, you’re free to disagree.

 

[Radical]

Well like I said earlier I don’t believe we can “explore” space, even getting to Mars not to mention building permanent or semipermanent settlements there will be a tremendous challenge. Venturing beyond our solar system is practically an impossibility now or in the foreseeable future, people have a hard time imagining the distances involved.

You’re right in that humanity not deserving another planet is my opinion, you’re free to disagree.

Don't underestimate human creativity, You think people 100 years ago believed you could communicate with the whole world just by tapping on glass?

 

[Phiirso]

Well like I said earlier I don’t believe we can “explore” space, even getting to Mars not to mention building permanent or semipermanent settlements there will be a tremendous challenge. Venturing beyond our solar system is practically an impossibility now or in the foreseeable future, people have a hard time imagining the distances involved.

You’re right in that humanity not deserving another planet is my opinion, you’re free to disagree.

One question

Take out the limiting factors for why we cannot for one second.

If you had the power to explore just the milky way, would you?

 

[MI]

Don't underestimate human creativity, You think people 100 years ago believed you could communicate with the whole world just by tapping on glass?

When enthusiasts cite previous technological advancements made throughout human history such as going from canoes to steamships to airplanes and landing on the moon and then go on to claim that it is inevitable that e.g space exploration will produce equally fruitful results, this is called Scientism. This cultic magical thinking makes no sense if you examine it for a second and realize that there’s many scientific efforts that have failed and will continue to fail. Just because we have iPhones doesn’t mean we can cure cancer for example.

One question

Take out the limiting factors for why we cannot for one second.

If you had the power to explore just the milky way, would you?

I would if I could, who’d say no to that?

 

[Phiirso]

When enthusiasts cite previous technological advancements made throughout human history such as going from canoes to steamships to airplanes and landing on the moon and then go on to claim that it is inevitable that e.g space exploration will produce equally fruitful results is called Scientism. This cultic magical thinking makes no sense if you examine for a second and realize that there’s many scientific efforts that have failed and will continue to fail. Just because we have iPhones doesn’t mean we can cure cancer for example.



I would if I could, who’d say no to that?

Not about no. Just forming a basis of understanding. .

If ability is the only limiting factor, then I'm very optimistic that will be a non-issue if we keep going on this trajectory.

Solving problems is what our brains are made for and the path to space exploration and all that comes with it is a problem we will wrestle with until we figure it out. If not now, then in a hundred years, maybe five hundred, or even a couple of thousand years from now.

We just deviate on the conclusion

 

[Basra]

Personally, I think it's our future. Nothing would make me happier than if all the nations put aside their dumb squabbles and we started to actively explore it but that's just me

 

[MI]

Not about no. Just forming a basis of understanding. .

If ability is the only limiting factor, then I'm very optimistic that will be a non-issue if we keep going on this trajectory.

Solving problems is what our brains are made for and the path to space exploration and all that comes with it is a problem we will wrestle with until we figure it out. If not now, then in a hundred years, maybe five hundred, or even a couple of thousand years from now.

We just deviate on the conclusion

The current way of life is not sustainable in regards to the natural world, even a hundred years from now if we keep up our trajectory we will witness many calamities, maybe enough to end or scale back civilization as we know it.

 

[Phiirso]

The current way of life is not sustainable in regards to the natural world, even a hundred years from now if we keep up our trajectory we will witness many calamities, maybe enough to end or scale back civilization as we know it.

The current way of life is not sustainable because humans are still living like our forefathers did a thousand years ago.

The Renaissance is Europes age of englightment. It unshackled the grip the Catholic Church had on Europe and released people to dictate their own lives at the behest of their own choices. Big change back in the day but ultimately it was just a reforming of ideas from one doctrine to another.

Our world is globalised now. Reshuffling of ideas isn't the way anymore. Reshuffle a deck a thousand times and you'll still get the same cards in a thousand different ways.

Yes, society as a whole is rotting. In every nation rot is filtering through its ranks from top down and it's corrupting everything. So if it all burns, so be it. It is Gods will.

If it doesnt however, and it reforms with a new deck, a little bit of optimistic hope isn't such a far fetched thing.