What are Saudi women doing with their new found freedoms, courtesy MBS.

Very dumb analysis.

Saudi might be modernizing but it’s still a Muslim country which operates under the Sharia with regards to marriage laws.

A woman In Saudi cannot divorce her husband without her husband uttering Talaq or Islamic courts via Fasaq or Khula.

Saudi has had high divorce rates, well before MBS. Well before women were even allowed to drive.
 
So you want women to stay in abusive marriages ?

1 divorce every 9 minutes in an Islamic country like Saudi Arabia cannot be blamed solely on abuse, unless you support a certain narrative.

its a simple case of “ a women will sacrifice her family for her happiness, where as a man will sacrifice his happiness for his family”

That’s why “female empowerment” is the strongest tool used by the elites to destroy the nuclear family” because women are by nature (solipsistic) when they have the means.

Very dumb analysis.

Saudi might be modernizing but it’s still a Muslim country which operates under the Sharia with regards to marriage laws.

A woman In Saudi cannot divorce her husband without her husband uttering Talaq or Islamic courts via Fasaq or Khula.

Saudi has had high divorce rates, well before MBS. Well before women were even allowed to drive.

I made a thread about a Somali brother being abused and humiliated, by the women he gave his heart to.

I then tagged your name in that thread to give you an opportunity to say your piece, you complete ignored it.

Now I make thread about Saudi women and you show up quicker Siri, with information nobody asked about.

What’s your issue with Somali men nayaa?
:farole:
 
1 divorce every 9 minutes in an Islamic country like Saudi Arabia cannot be blamed solely on abuse, unless you support a certain narrative.

its a simple case of “ a women will sacrifice her family for her happiness, where as a man will sacrifice his happiness for his family”

That’s why “female empowerment” is the strongest tool used by the elites to destroy the nuclear family” because women are by nature (solipsistic) when they have the means.
What you are saying doesn’t hold up when analyzing Arab and African society:

1. Divorce rates were actually very high during the Islamic golden age. 1 in 3 Mamluk women were divorced

2. We have records of westerners visiting Muslim countries and scandalized by high divorce rates

3. We have records of Western Victorians visiting even the Somali peninsular and being shocked by how liberally the men would divorce the women.

4. Muslim women, even in this day and age cannot divorce their husbands. Their husband have to Talaq them or appeal to an Islamic Qadi.
I made a thread about a Somali brother being abused and humiliated, by the women he gave his heart to.

I then tagged your name in that thread to give you an opportunity to say your piece, you complete ignored it.

Now I make thread about Saudi women and you show up quicker Siri, with information nobody asked about.

What’s your issue with Somali men nayaa?
:farole:
I have no issues with anyone. I showed up, because I can’t stand disinformation. If you don’t believe what I wrote, I’ll happily show you proof.

Blaming Muslim marriages breaking down on feminism is disingenuous since Muslims especially Africans and Arabs don’t have the same culture of divorce as the West. In fact historically our divorce rates were higher expect for South Asians who have the lowest divorce and that’s due to their influence of Hinduism since Hindu Indians also have one of the lowest divorce rates.
 
What you are saying doesn’t hold up when analyzing Arab and African society:

1. Divorce rates were actually very high during the Islamic golden age. 1 in 3 Mamluk women were divorced

The Islamic Golden age began 622 AD and ended 1258 AD, the Mamluks reign began at the tail end of it. From 1250 AD to 1715 AD.

Now as far as the practice of the deen is concerned which is what you’re alluding to, no age and no group is as perfect as the ashaaba.

The only reason you incorrectly picked the Mamluks as the “golden age of Islam” and the best example, is simply because all of your sources concerning Islamic history are from Gaalo historians

2. We have records of westerners visiting Muslim countries and scandalized by high divorce rates

The divorce rates weren’t the level of today and back then western women had zero rights to divorce, receive inheritance or get employment. So since they had no means unlike Muslims women who actually had rights, divorce was out of the question for western women. Hence the shock!!

3. We have records of Western Victorians visiting even the Somali peninsular and being shocked by how liberally the men would divorce the women.

4. Muslim women, even in this day and age cannot divorce their husbands. Their husband have to Talaq them or appeal to an Islamic Qadi.

I have no issues with anyone. I showed up, because I can’t stand disinformation. If you don’t believe what I wrote, I’ll happily show you proof.

Blaming Muslim marriages breaking down on feminism is disingenuous since Muslims especially Africans and Arabs don’t have the same culture of divorce as the West. In fact historically our divorce rates were higher expect for South Asians who have the lowest divorce and that’s due to their influence of Hinduism since Hindu Indians also have one of the lowest divorce rates.
Today even Muslim women are divorcing for selfish reasons, because they drank the cool aid of feminism. Promises of freedom and eternal happiness, yet women have never been more miserable.
Wahhabi Muttah

I thought that was strictly a Shia thing?
You must be naive to think a Muslim woman can easily initiate divorce, especially in Saudi Arabia. In these kinds of settings divorce is often a result of rights being denied, mutual agreement or abuse and it’s not as simple as sacrificing “happiness”.

1 every 9 minutes you bet I do.
 
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Saudi women love MBS, I wish Somali women had a MBS equivalent.

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They don't need his equivalent lol. Somalis have a lot of problems but our women are pretty free tbh at least. Some salafi lunatics would love to change that now tho in the name of "muh no free mixing". What we they need is a leader that pushes them to the next step which is encouraging them to work instead of being a homemaker. We're pretty advanced especially compared to carab.
 

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