westernisation & duty of a man in Islam

[notinuse.]

I don't get it, the somalis who always complain about "western ideologies" being evil or degeneate are always the ones who live in the west and benefit from it . You go online and whine about how the west is a "doomed" place yet go to university for free, you have free health care, public security, affordable education, affordable healthy food, no corruption or your safety being at risk.

You basically live in heaven compared to 70% of the rest of the world, yet you have to audacity to not only complain but also tell other somalis who live in Somalia to be more Conservative and stay away from liberalism and "adopt sharia law" as if Somalia already isn't one of the most religious countries on earth. A girl got harassed by 5 adeers in hargeisa for wearing jeans (mind you she had a hijab on) yet you as salafi muslim man expose your awrah by showing yout legs, knees and your thights wearing them short football pants in public.

The hypocrisy and entitlement somali diaspora have really makes me want to slap some of yall in the face to bring you back to reality.
Acknowledge your privillege nacala abaha ku yaal the rest of our people are currently starving and facing one of humanities worst disasters.


TOPIC 2.
the way some of you somali niman act is also outrageous too. Constantly policing random somali women about what they can and can't wear, how to live their lives, gossiping and makings stupid tiktoks like your teenage girls.



Usless nacas men like him guy are too common in our community. They're grow adult men going on music app talking about how somali women act "promiscuous" using quran verses yet ignore the verses in the quran which clearly indicate that it's a man duty to love and protect his country @AMusee and @Burqad Tell me warya are you spineless doqons as an adult man doing anything in your power to develop or protect your country of origin? Aside from spitting bullshit soyboy paragraphs online.

 

[notinuse.]

I don't even want to be that somali girl who hates on somali men 24/7, but for fucks sakes a big chunk of yall are so useless it's actually painful.

 

[Lebron James]

Salafism cooking their heads into thinking like this. those guys like abu tahayimya are to blame for stuff like this.

 

[Osama-bin Al-ballin]

I don't even want to be that somali girl who hates on somali men 24/7, but for fucks sakes a big chunk of yall are so useless it's actually painful.

Get of tiktok

 

[AMusee]

@malab you are a murtad, if you were ever a Somali or Muslim at all, therefore your opinions and comments on the Somali people means nothing. Also, you do not need to complain about Somali men as if you are Somali and a murtad you can certainly marry out into a liberal western and atheist community, you do not have a place in the Somali one.

In fact your frustration on the matter is a great sign.

Muslims will continue to call for and propagate Islam and expose the liberal project as well as check and remind each other when they are going astray, Alhamdulilah.




They want to extinguish the light of Allāh with their mouths, but Allāh refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.

It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allāh dislike it.

Surah At-Tawbah 32-33


[Such believers are] the repentant, the worshippers, the praisers [of Allāh], the travelers [for His cause], those who bow and prostrate [in prayer], those who enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong, and those who observe the limits [set by] Allāh. And give good tidings to the believers.

Surah At-Tawbah 112


And let there be [arising] from you a nation inviting to [all that is] good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, and those will be the successful.

Surah Ali-Imran 104


And remind, for indeed, the reminder benefits the believers.

Surah Adh-Dhariyat 55

 

[AMusee]

 

[DaroodDemon]

I don't get it, the somalis who always complain about "western ideologies" being evil or degeneate are always the ones who live in the west and benefit from it . You go online and whine about how the west is a "doomed" place yet go to university for free, you have free health care, public security, affordable education, affordable healthy food, no corruption or your safety being at risk.

braindead take. Do you actually think like this?

The west also had the greatest quality of life in the 1950s, but they still had morals and the vast majority of them were religious Christians. I and many other muslims would love to live in a society like that.

meanwhile today the west still has the best quality of life, but they lost all morals and are degenerates. Kids as young as 12 having their breasts chopped off and literal 7 year olds on puberty blockers. Increasing divorce rates, STD rates, and the complete abandonment of Abrahamic values.

The gulf countries, singapore, and eastern europe also have good qualities of life, and retain their morals unlike the west. Many muslims live in and move to these countries.

Do you think in order to have a high quality functioning society, you need to abandon all religious morals? What's the point of your argument?

A girl got harassed by 5 adeers in hargeisa for wearing jeans (mind you she had a hijab on)

Jeans are haram. And i doubt she was "harassed" most likely she was told to wear something else. 5 Old men harassing a girl for wearing revealing clothes sounds highly unlikely. Do you have proof of this harassment?

yet you as salafi muslim man expose your awrah by showing yout legs, knees and your thights wearing them short football pants in public.

Nice strawman. Can you show me this "Salafi muslim man" who wears shorts?

And even if he did exist, its a pointless personal anecdote that literally holds no value in this argument.

the way some of you somali niman act is also outrageous too. Constantly policing random somali women about what they can and can't wear, how to live their lives, gossiping and makings stupid tiktoks like your teenage girls.

It's important to encourage sisters to have morals. Even if they're an atheist they should still dress modestly if they want to be respected.

Look at the woman in the tiktok post. She travels around the worlds partying on beaches, fucking random dudes and getting STDS, and getting breast implants.

Would you respect this woman? Do you think somalis should keep silent when we see degeneracy like this in our community? If you say Yes then you're part of the problem.

don't you want to become a lawyer? I have no clue how someone with your ability of reasoning even made it into Law school how did you even pass the LSAT?

 

[DaroodDemon]

Salafism cooking their heads into thinking like this. those guys like abu tahayimya are to blame for stuff like this.

Salafism has nothing to do with abandoning education.

Gaining knowledge is valued in islam. The first universities were in muslim north africa

 

[Abdisamad]

@malab

Just because the west is more prosperous than your own country doesn't mean you should throw out your own, culture, diin an values and adopt theirs... Take what's good but don't lose your roots and identity.. The westerners treat their women like a piece of meat, believe me many of the women are not happy.. Basically if you truly analyze the life of the average western gaal, you will realise the following,

1. Their house is owned by the bank (mortgage)
2. For the most part their car is also owned by the bank
3. They have to slave away more 40 hours pr. day every day to support their lifestyle and pay off their debt
4. This will go on until they're close to 70 years old

It's a rat race out here, and true freedom does not exist, that is why they're selling you an illusion as freedom, defined as the right to go clubbing, drink, sleep with various partners, get naked or in general as a woman get treated like a piece of meat evaluated based on your body parts appearance.. I my self wouldn't define myself as very religious or well versed in the deen but the above is based on my analysis and experience of the western society. I hope you sit down and reflect over this and I hope you value your own roots, culture and the diin I'm assuming you are born into, because in the ultimate end that's what matters and is most valuable.

 

[Basra]

Boujie

 

[notinuse.]

@malab

Just because the west is more prosperous than your own country doesn't mean you should throw out your own, culture, diin an values and adopt theirs... Take what's good but don't lose your roots and identity.. The westerners treat their women like a piece of meat, believe me many of the women are not happy.. Basically if you truly analyze the life of the average western gaal, you will realise the following,

1. Their house is owned by the bank (mortgage)
2. For the most part their car is also owned by the bank
3. They have to slave away more 40 hours pr. day every day to support their lifestyle and pay off their debt
4. This will go on until they're close to 70 years old

It's a rat race out here, and true freedom does not exist, that is why they're selling you an illusion as freedom, defined as the right to go clubbing, drink, sleep with various partners, get naked or in general as a woman get treated like a piece of meat evaluated based on your body parts appearance.. I my self wouldn't define myself as very religious or well versed in the deen but the above is based on my analysis and experience of the western society. I hope you sit down and reflect over this and I hope you value your own roots, culture and the diin I'm assuming you are born into, because in the ultimate end that's what matters and is most valuable.

"Don't loss your roots and identity" as if somalis didn't throw out half their culture and language to adopt arab culture.

 

[notinuse.]

Grown men getting emotional like fragile little girls writing paragraphs throwing insults about my personal religious beliefs proves my point.

Be a man and do something useful instead of sharing religious quotes.

 

[AMusee]

"Don't loss your roots and identity" as if somalis didn't throw out half their culture and language to adopt arab culture.

Our identity has always been Islam, you would know that if you were Somali instead of appealing to some fantasy.

Grown men getting emotional like fragile little girls writing paragraphs throwing insults about my personal religious beliefs proves my point.

Be a man and do something useful instead of sharing religious quotes.

You are a non factor in the Somali community and no matter how much you pretend on here that your opinion matters, the reality is you could never speak like this around Somalis.

Take your opinions where they may hold some weight, maybe some atheist reddit forum. It is the height of delusion to write opinions and comments on the Somali community as a non-Muslim thinking anyone takes it seriously.

 

[El Nino]

@malab Honest question, do you think the west became prosperous due to being
”liberals”?

 

[Internet Nomad]

@malab Honest question, do you think the west became prosperous due to being
”liberals”?

Obviously because recognising that the liberal western elites purposely keep down the global south using techniques such as colonialism, coup d’état, sanctions, warfare and government funded terror groups.

It is easier to just believe the lies that they tell you such as “these muslim nations hate us for our freedom“ or the reason they are not rich is because they don't have liberal values.

Muslims were the world superpower for almost a millennium…I don't think islam stops progress.

 

[Ozymandias]

I agree about the fact that there is too much calaacal happening in the west, these ostentatious remarks and shaming is unnecessary considering that this is taking place In a western country. They ought to move back to an Islamic country for thorough own piece of mind. It's a very simple solution.

 

[Yaraye]

free health care? I wish!!!!

 

[notinuse.]

@malab Honest question, do you think the west became prosperous due to being
”liberals”?

Of course not, Europeans become powerful thanks to colonisation and them playing dirty.

 

[notinuse.]

free health care? I wish!!!!

I'm sorry I forgot about Americans

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

I don't get it, the somalis who always complain about "western ideologies" being evil or degeneate are always the ones who live in the west and benefit from it . You go online and whine about how the west is a "doomed" place yet go to university for free, you have free health care, public security, affordable education, affordable healthy food, no corruption or your safety being at risk.

You basically live in heaven compared to 70% of the rest of the world, yet you have to audacity to not only complain but also tell other somalis who live in Somalia to be more Conservative and stay away from liberalism and "adopt sharia law" as if Somalia already isn't one of the most religious countries on earth. A girl got harassed by 5 adeers in hargeisa for wearing jeans (mind you she had a hijab on) yet you as salafi muslim man expose your awrah by showing yout legs, knees and your thights wearing them short football pants in public.

The hypocrisy and entitlement somali diaspora have really makes me want to slap some of yall in the face to bring you back to reality.
Acknowledge your privillege nacala abaha ku yaal the rest of our people are currently starving and facing one of humanities worst disasters.


TOPIC 2.
the way some of you somali niman act is also outrageous too. Constantly policing random somali women about what they can and can't wear, how to live their lives, gossiping and makings stupid tiktoks like your teenage girls.



Usless nacas men like him guy are too common in our community. They're grow adult men going on music app talking about how somali women act "promiscuous" using quran verses yet ignore the verses in the quran which clearly indicate that it's a man duty to love and protect his country @AMusee and @Burqad Tell me warya are you spineless doqons as an adult man doing anything in your power to develop or protect your country of origin? Aside from spitting bullshit soyboy paragraphs online.

I am curious, as I just finished my morning workout, see if you could indulge me in a bit of an intelligent repartee. Let us put your preferences in faith, and dating to aside for a moment, for I believe those are your prerogatives, what is your relationship with men in your family: specifically father, uncles, older brothers & cousins etc?