We will be the new gulf arabs

[novanova]

Came to think of this but imagine how much more racist and vile ajanabis will get when we get wealthy (yes, im speaking this into existence) I see the envy in their eyes when they speak of arab gulfstates, they can pretend like they hate them because of their treatment of migrants but its obvious they are heatedddd over another group hitting the jackpot. Anyway we seem to rattle them alot despite not having much, I fear some of them might go crazy when Somalia gets rich

 

[Jimmy Hopkins]

Arab's Wealth comes primarily from Oil, they have no industries or nothing just Oil, but we'll diversify our economy and have many streams of income pouring in. So no we will not be "New Gulf Arabs" or be seen as that given the Lack of solely relying on Oil.

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Also let them, there will be nothing that'll make more satisfied watching ajanabis seethe at Somali success knowing they cannot participate it in.

 

[The alchemist]

Yeah. A lot of Westerners speak of Arabia as if it were an accident, an undeserved growth. They point to the oil and say they would be nothing without it. This is just pure hypocrisy. For example, a country like the US is extremely wealthy in natural resources, one cannot help but to gain wealth. Agrarian land, forestry, minerals, the range of ecosystems, and dynamic seasonal variation across geographic regions, sea access for trade and seafood. I can go on and on. Those people were blessed with land that gave them sufficient ground to build complexity. The oil is no different.

They essentially say their civilization was earned. It's ignorant dissonance and hate. At the core of this is a supremacist thinking that their success arrived from an implicit "superior" inherent qualities. They also imbue moral qualities to material wealth. It distorts their worldview that, if Saudi Arabia or Oman is successfull and well-functioning, their minds have to excuse it somehow because only liberal Westerners can live in true blessings. So they say, ah, it is the oil, exclusivizing that land wealth from their countless pre-requisite privileges that set them up.

You hear these people often speak of how Dubai is so terrible. Mind you, I have never pedestilzed Dubai since I perfer places that are not so polished; I'd rather go to Yemen, Saudi or Oman. Yet no one in their right mind can discount the accomplishment. On YouTube, you see constant videos where weird psudeo-smart White guys making countless list of how Dubai sucks in everything, like every city in Europe is not a decadent urban cesspool.

 

[Shimbiris]

Yeah. A lot of Westerners speak of Arabia as if it were an accident, an undeserved growth. They point to the oil and say they would be nothing without it. This is just pure hypocrisy. For example, a country like the US is extremely wealthy in natural resources, one cannot help but to gain wealth. Agrarian land, forestry, minerals, the range of ecosystems, and dynamic seasonal variation across geographic regions, sea access for trade and seafood. I can go on and on. Those people were blessed with land that gave them sufficient ground to build complexity. The oil is no different.

They essentially say their civilization was earned. It's ignorant dissonance and hate. At the core of this is a supremacist thinking that their success arrived from an implicit "superior" inherent qualities. They also imbue moral qualities to material wealth. It distorts their worldview that, if Saudi Arabia or Oman is successfull and well-functioning, their minds have to excuse it somehow because only liberal Westerners can live in true blessings. So they say, ah, it is the oil, exclusivizing that land wealth from their countless pre-requisite privileges that set them up.

You hear these people often speak of how Dubai is so terrible. Mind you, I have never pedestilzed Dubai since I perfer places that are not so polished; I'd rather go to Yemen, Saudi or Oman. Yet no one in their right mind can discount the accomplishment. On YouTube, you see constant videos where weird psudeo-smart White guys making countless list of how Dubai sucks in everything, like every city in Europe is not a decadent urban cesspool.

Mainstream, braindead, unintellectual westerners*. If you read books like this or this, you can definitely see that westerners who have actually read a damned book and acquainted themselves with Arabian history are very appreciative of people like Ibn Saud and Sheikh Zayed and express a lot of respect for them and the fact that Arabs themselves forged the current prosperity of the Peninsula through their culture, cunning and hardwork.

To be fair, I do feel the Gulf States in particular--discounting Sa3udiya--are British projects and only even exist because of Britain. Sa3udiya would have cannibalized them otherwise, but they still deserve to be lauded for having the sense to not rebel against the Brits and Americans when they could see they were no match and go down the cosmopolitan and trade based route they did until they had the wealth and influence to finally turn the tables on their former leash holders.

 

[Xareen]

Yeah. A lot of Westerners speak of Arabia as if it were an accident, an undeserved growth. They point to the oil and say they would be nothing without it. This is just pure hypocrisy. For example, a country like the US is extremely wealthy in natural resources, one cannot help but to gain wealth. Agrarian land, forestry, minerals, the range of ecosystems, and dynamic seasonal variation across geographic regions, sea access for trade and seafood. I can go on and on. Those people were blessed with land that gave them sufficient ground to build complexity. The oil is no different.

Europe too, historically. It's like the Nile Valley but a whole damn continent. You can't go 20 miles without being within 5 miles of the most utopic, lush, fertile land the world has ever seen. It's no wonder Neolithic Europeans did what they did; rather, I half expect more of them. You give the Afitic race (East African intermediaries) just the one stretch of land comparable to what 90% of Europe is in the Dongola Reach and you get Kerma within 3000 years. Why did it take them so long to build something like Cucuteni-Trypillia? There should've been hundreds of these city-states all vying for power over Central Europe thousands of years before the Bronze Age.

 

[The alchemist]

Mainstream, braindead, unintellectual westerners*. If you read books like this or this, you can definitely see that westerners who have actually read a damned book and acquainted themselves with Arabian history are very appreciative of people like Ibn Saud and Sheikh Zayed and express a lot of respect for them and the fact that Arabs themselves forged the current prosperity of the Peninsula through their culture, cunning and hardwork.

To be fair, I do feel the Gulf States in particular--discounting Sa3udiya--are British projects and only even exist because of Britain. Sa3udiya would have cannibalized them otherwise, but they still deserve to be lauded for having the sense to not rebel against the Brits and Americans when they could see they were no match and go down the cosmopolitan and trade based route they did until they had the wealth and influence to finally turn the tables on their former leash holders.

The British had a fundamental part in the creation and protection of the land in the colonial sense, but pretty much post-colonial development -- that was the bulk of growth we arrived at today -- was of their organization, right? There is a big likelihood that some of those places would be Saudi today, had it not been for the British. I'm not privy to a potential pre-colonial territorial divide. I know tribes bleed over territories, though.

 

[JustSomeGuy]

Somalia doesn’t need to be like the Gulf states. The gulf states know the writing is on the wall and are desperately attempting to diversify and change their countries.

The last thing Somalia needs is to be like the Gulf states. I hope the government makes wise decisions and uses any potential oil revenue to invest in the long term for the country.

 

[zeila2wajir]

Came to think of this but imagine how much more racist and vile ajanabis will get when we get wealthy (yes, im speaking this into existence) I see the envy in their eyes when they speak of arab gulfstates, they can pretend like they hate them because of their treatment of migrants but its obvious they are heatedddd over another group hitting the jackpot. Anyway we seem to rattle them alot despite not having much, I fear some of them might go crazy when Somalia gets rich

I am looking forward to that lol because then they’ll have no coherent arguments about failed state or pirates or any of that BS. We also would be safe in our own country far away from them. I am speaking into existence a Somalia that not only has all ethnic homelands under one, but has a rich, fully diversified economy not just natural resources but education, healthcare, agriculture, fishing and more. Ameen Ameen Ameen.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Came to think of this but imagine how much more racist and vile ajanabis will get when we get wealthy (yes, im speaking this into existence) I see the envy in their eyes when they speak of arab gulfstates, they can pretend like they hate them because of their treatment of migrants but its obvious they are heatedddd over another group hitting the jackpot. Anyway we seem to rattle them alot despite not having much, I fear some of them might go crazy when Somalia gets rich

Nigerians were already going crazy a few months ago cause their gdp per capita fell to the same as Somalia and their currency was worth half the somali shilling was funny to see

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[sums20]

Nigerians were already going crazy a few months ago cause their gdp per capita fell to the same as Somalia and their currency was worth half the somali shilling was funny to see

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Don't get me excited the reactions online will be epic might have to brag a bit

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Don't get me excited the reactions online will be epic might have to brag a bit

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[sums20]

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We have so much potential and a lot of stuff holding us back but I know if we were able to do all this during one of our hardest time periods we can do so much more in the future. I'm so excited to watch the world realise it when it becomes undeniable and our country become something worth bragging about

 

[Juliet]

Alhamdullilah we won’t have a billion mouths to feed too, thanks to our small population, so per capita wil be crazyyy

just gotta make sure Aidsthopian illegals don’t try infiltrating and are continuing to be deported in the meantime

 

[Shimbiris]

Europe too, historically. It's like the Nile Valley but a whole damn continent. You can't go 20 miles without being within 5 miles of the most utopic, lush, fertile land the world has ever seen. It's no wonder Neolithic Europeans did what they did; rather, I half expect more of them. You give the Afitic race (East African intermediaries) just the one stretch of land comparable to what 90% of Europe is in the Dongola Reach and you get Kerma within 3000 years. Why did it take them so long to build something like Cucuteni-Trypillia? There should've been hundreds of these city-states all vying for power over Central Europe thousands of years before the Bronze Age.

I think European fertility is often overestimated. Many urban observers, in my view, reveal their city origins when they assume that green landscapes and abundant water automatically mean fertile land that you can instantly plug and play into. It’s true that much of Europe is lush and receives ample rainfall; but far less of that land is actually suited for long-term, intensive agriculture--without work--than most imagine.

For one, large parts of the continent experience cold winters that would destroy the same crops which flourished in the Fertile Crescent, the Sahel, or eastern China — the heartlands of early agricultural revolutions. A lot of Europe’s greenery also grows on what geographers call “marginal land” which is terrain better suited for pasture than for tilling or ploughing. Thin, sometimes rocky soil. Then you also have the fact that large swathes of some of the most fertile farmlands today were basically forests and other such ecosystems until the fairly recent history and had to be cleared for the agricultural purpose they now serve; saved from issues like waterlogging, properly planned and needed certain agricultural innovations to be fully exploited.

There's a reason the Western side of the Roman Empire never caught up to the East in terms of wealth and productvity until well after the West's collapse; a lot of work needed to be done. Those Anatolian Neolithic Farmers didn't suddenly lumber onto Eden and do nothing with it for thousands of years.

Take Greece as a case study of how greenness can be deceptive. Beautiful countryside:

Yet much of it is rocky, thin-soiled, and mountainous, unsuitable for broad-scale cultivation. Historically, the Greeks relied heavily on pastoralism and small-scale, garden-style agriculture, rather than large open-field farming, a pattern still echoed in parts of the Mediterranean today:

Past, present and future of pastoralism in Greece - Pastoralism

Pastoral farming has been a feature of the Greek scene since antiquity. The geomorphology of the area, climatic conditions and the prevailing systems of agricultural production in lowland regions at any given time have all been conducive to the development and preservation of this productive...

pastoralismjournal.springeropen.com

Europe looks sexy to the untrained eye but trust me, it needed a lot of work and time to create the breadbaskets it has today.

 

[SpaceyCadet]

Nigerians were already going crazy a few months ago cause their gdp per capita fell to the same as Somalia and their currency was worth half the somali shilling was funny to see

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[Midas]

I think European fertility is often overestimated. Many urban observers, in my view, reveal their city origins when they assume that green landscapes and abundant water automatically mean fertile land that you can instantly plug and play into. It’s true that much of Europe is lush and receives ample rainfall; but far less of that land is actually suited for long-term, intensive agriculture--without work--than most imagine.

For one, large parts of the continent experience cold winters that would destroy the same crops which flourished in the Fertile Crescent, the Sahel, or eastern China — the heartlands of early agricultural revolutions. A lot of Europe’s greenery also grows on what geographers call “marginal land” which is terrain better suited for pasture than for tilling or ploughing. Thin, sometimes rocky soil. Then you also have the fact that large swathes of some of the most fertile farmlands today were basically forests and other such ecosystems until the fairly recent history and had to be cleared for the agricultural purpose they now serve; saved from issues like waterlogging, properly planned and needed certain agricultural innovations to be fully exploited.

There's a reason the Western side of the Roman Empire never caught up to the East in terms of wealth and productvity until well after the West's collapse; a lot of work needed to be done. Those Anatolian Neolithic Farmers didn't suddenly lumber onto Eden and do nothing with it for thousands of years.

Take Greece as a case study of how greenness can be deceptive. Beautiful countryside:

Yet much of it is rocky, thin-soiled, and mountainous, unsuitable for broad-scale cultivation. Historically, the Greeks relied heavily on pastoralism and small-scale, garden-style agriculture, rather than large open-field farming, a pattern still echoed in parts of the Mediterranean today:

Past, present and future of pastoralism in Greece - Pastoralism

Pastoral farming has been a feature of the Greek scene since antiquity. The geomorphology of the area, climatic conditions and the prevailing systems of agricultural production in lowland regions at any given time have all been conducive to the development and preservation of this productive...

pastoralismjournal.springeropen.com

Europe looks sexy to the untrained eye but trust me, it needed a lot of work and time to create the breadbaskets it has today.

One thing I'll add to this is the idea of non Greek Europe being primitive before the roman empire is somewhat of a fantasy. The reason we call different historical periods after metals like the copper age or the bronze age or the iron age. Is that ultimately what made civilization possible is the usage of metal tools and weapons. Europe has always had some of the most advanced metallurgy in the world. From the appreance of widespread copper mellaturgy in Europe around the 5th millennium b.c . There's a bunch of evidence of violent conquest and kingdom building in Europe.



This dude is one of several burials in this necroplis filled with treasure.

 

[Midas]

There's even evidence of incredibly massive cities in eastern Europe in 3500 b.c they didnt develop writing but we're talking 30,000 people in a single city.