We should support our Somali Salafists

[cantspeak]

 

[Steamdevolopment]

No. Letting these men control us would only lead to more war as they disagree among themselves. Al-shabbab is the perfect example

 

[Galaeri]

I would never pay 20k for mehr I can get better value for my shekels la xawla.

 

[jugjugwacwac]

Salafism/Wahhabism is a cancer. It's an uncompromising, anti-intellectual, literalist and myopic interpretation of Islam. It makes no use of context, nuance and sharia sanctioned flexibility. It's culturally imperialist in nature, as it stamps out local forms of Islamic practice, art, dress and mannerisms. It's also antithetical to modernity, retarding economic growth and promoting a rigid and simplistic political worldview.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

Salafism/Wahhabism is a cancer. It's an uncompromising, anti-intellectual, literalist and myopic interpretation of Islam. It makes no use of context, nuance and sharia sanctioned flexibility. It's culturally imperialist in nature, as it stamps out local forms of Islamic practice, art, dress and mannerisms. It's also antithetical to modernity, retarding economic growth and promoting a rigid and simplistic political worldview.

Don't forget corruption. Not a single country with salafisme have low corruption rate. Wonder why?

 

[MadNomad]

Salafism should be eradicated from the face of this earth

#MakeSufismgreatagain

 

[Assata]

@cantspeak
Better chill out before you end up in Guantanamo Bay.

 

[The Ash'ari]

Salafists are subhuman.

You would be surprised how much the average Umm Qital al Somali (formerly Hodan Jaamac) gets passed around like a cigarette between the Salafi akhis.

Meanwhile in Salafi Masjids:

Abu Bertrand Al Jamaikii: 'Aki, man must have divorced his Somalian ting init, she is on her 'iddah fam, as soon as she dun she yours bruv. Man must hav heard u not haps at home, if u giv her dat talaaq I wan me some of dat Somalilander, fam.'

Abu Rudolph Al Britaani: 'Sounds good, fam'.

That is Salafism.


Sufismisthefuture#

 

[Abdalla]

The problem with Salafis and Muslim brotherhood/Ikhawaanis is that they are more loyal to outside forces. Salafis are controlled by Saudis and ikhwanis by Egyptian Sheikhs. They are all proxies for outsiders. Seeing how easily Somalis can be influenced, even Shia sheikhs are now active in Somalia. The only indigenous sect are the Suufis. They are the ones that taught all the modern sheikhs, such as Sh Umal. But as soon as they graduated from Saudi universities, they started to bad mouth their own teachers. But karma made sure that Umals biggest rival, who disrespects him the most is his former student, Sh. Hassaan.

Being religious doesn't mean you have to imitate Arab culture.

 

[CaptainMajid]

The problem with Salafis and Muslim brotherhood/Ikhawaanis is that they are more loyal to outside forces. Salafis are controlled by Saudis and ikhwanis by Egyptian Sheikhs. They are all proxies for outsiders. Seeing how easily Somalis can be influenced, even Shia sheikhs are now active in Somalia. The only indigenous sect are the Suufis. They are the ones that taught all the modern sheikhs, such as Sh Umal. But as soon as they graduated from Saudi universities, they started to bad mouth their own teachers. But karma made sure that Umals biggest rival, who disrespects him the most is his former student, Sh. Hassaan.

Being religious doesn't mean you have to imitate Arab culture.

Exaggeration. Theres huge split between Ikhwan and official Azhar now its not that simple. Many studied or influenced by Egypt but there is no official allegiance, thats Robert Spencer type conspiracy. As for Salafis, obvious splits between themselves as well. Theres the Madkhalis who are loyal to official Saudi scholars and their line, but then theres other side opposed to them. Ironically its the latter that are often even more uncompromising and violent.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

I am an Athari, and I believe that this is the only correct aqeedah in Islam.

However, the rigid viewpoint of Salafis is dangerous, cancerous and should not be allowed to spread in any Muslim country. We are Shaafici's, and have been for many centuries.

 

[The Ash'ari]

Exaggeration. Theres huge split between Ikhwan and official Azhar now its not that simple. Many studied or influenced by Egypt but there is no official allegiance, thats Robert Spencer type conspiracy. As for Salafis, obvious splits between themselves as well. Theres the Madkhalis who are loyal to official Saudi scholars and their line, but then theres other side opposed to them. Ironically its the latter that are often even more uncompromising and violent.

Was there ever coherence between Azhar al Sharif and the Ikhwan? It was always a turbulent relationship.

Madkhalites are a minority even within Saudi Arabia. Their peak populations are in North Africa and Europe (amongst mainly Somalis).

But, alhamdullilah, slowly Ash'arism (The real Ahlus Sunnah in Somalis) is coming back with a vengeance, both in Somalia and everywhere else.

 

[jugjugwacwac]

Exaggeration. Theres huge split between Ikhwan and official Azhar now its not that simple. Many studied or influenced by Egypt but there is no official allegiance, thats Robert Spencer type conspiracy. As for Salafis, obvious splits between themselves as well. Theres the Madkhalis who are loyal to official Saudi scholars and their line, but then theres other side opposed to them. Ironically its the latter that are often even more uncompromising and violent.

U can't seem to see the forest for the trees.

 

[CaptainMajid]

U can't seem to see the forest for the trees.

Not really. You guys love to speak in sweeping generalizations about literally everything.

 

[CaptainMajid]

Was there ever coherence between Azhar al Sharif and the Ikhwan? It was always a turbulent relationship.

Madkhalites are a minority even within Saudi Arabia. Their peak populations are in North Africa and Europe (amongst mainly Somalis).

But, alhamdullilah, slowly Ash'arism (The real Ahlus Sunnah in Somalis) is coming back with a vengeance, both in Somalia and everywhere else.

So whats the proof that Ikhwanis around the world pledge official allegiance to Egypt? Its very much a diffused relationship and you can tell that by how different "Ikhwan" groups are from country to country.

 

[CorpseBride]

The Jamaicans sounds like drug dealers.

 

[Khalid Hussein]

Salafism/Wahhabism is a cancer. It's an uncompromising, anti-intellectual, literalist and myopic interpretation of Islam. It makes no use of context, nuance and sharia sanctioned flexibility. It's culturally imperialist in nature, as it stamps out local forms of Islamic practice, art, dress and mannerisms. It's also antithetical to modernity, retarding economic growth and promoting a rigid and simplistic political worldview.

Sufism is Kufr. Asking Graves for Help, Haram

 

[Khalid Hussein]

I am an Athari, and I believe that this is the only correct aqeedah in Islam.

However, the rigid viewpoint of Salafis is dangerous, cancerous and should not be allowed to spread in any Muslim country. We are Shaafici's, and have been for many centuries.

I am Athari which makes me and you Salafi automatic the word Salaf means Ancestor or Predecessors So As salaf as Salih means the Pious ancestors or Predecessors. If you follow the first three Generation you are A Salafi.

 

[Khalid Hussein]

Saudi Arabia is not Salafi Country

Crime in Saudi Arabia is relatively low when compared to some developed nations, but may be increasing due to higher levels of foreign workers and higher levels of unemployment among Saudi residents."

— John Wilson, on the crime situation in Saudi Arabia, in the book International Security and the United States: An Encyclopedia

See Saudi Arabia has a Low Crime rate and it is not a "Salafi" country.

Let me tell you If Saudi Arabia is "Salafi" why do they capture Real Salafi Sheiks Like Salman al-Alwan and put them Prison. They Torture him and made him pray the Janazah instead of his brothers as a Sign of torture. Many Sheiks in Saudi Arabia who are Salafi are abused and Tortue Physically and Mentally. Sufis I don't Support any government that abuse Sheiks and don't rule the Law of Allah. ISIS don't rule the Law of Allah, they drown people and Burn People this is not how the Prophet did the Hadd.

Ikhwaan Al Musrifeen, you know what they are a stupid Group, they Want to make a so called "Khalifah" Politically, they don't Acknowledge of the Existence of al waala wal Baara. They Swear they're oath to Inhabitants instead of Allah.

 

[AussieHustler]

Saudi Arabia is not Salafi Country

Crime in Saudi Arabia is relatively low when compared to some developed nations, but may be increasing due to higher levels of foreign workers and higher levels of unemployment among Saudi residents."

— John Wilson, on the crime situation in Saudi Arabia, in the book International Security and the United States: An Encyclopedia

See Saudi Arabia has a Low Crime rate and it is not a "Salafi" country.

Let me tell you If Saudi Arabia is "Salafi" why do they capture Real Salafi Sheiks Like Salman al-Alwan and put them Prison. They Torture him and made him pray the Janazah instead of his brothers as a Sign of torture. Many Sheiks in Saudi Arabia who are Salafi are abused and Tortue Physically and Mentally. Sufis I don't Support any government that abuse Sheiks and don't rule the Law of Allah. ISIS don't rule the Law of Allah, they drown people and Burn People this is not how the Prophet did the Hadd.

Ikhwaan Al Musrifeen, you know what they are a stupid Group, they Want to make a so called "Khalifah" Politically, they don't Acknowledge of the Existence of al waala wal Baara. They Swear they're oath to Inhabitants instead of Allah.

Khalid

Waryaa, is your teacher the former male stripper, Sheikh Feiz Mohammed?