We could become one of the largest ethnicities on the continent

[Apollo]

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[anonimo]

I have wanted to discuss in politcs or fkd section that future somali politics will vastly differ from what we see today because of how different the growth rates are for different clans.

Clans that are more urbanised, educated will have fewer children then those who are not. This could even change politics between subclans.

Without doubt, the poor and rural will have a higher population growth than the urbanised and relatively economically stable. Even some Xalimos back home who have a decent level of education do not want too many children and they tend to marry later decreasing the fertility rate.

It may go down from 9/8/7 to like 5 or 4 maybe 3, but still much higher than the West where 1 or max 2 is the norm.

Anything above 2 (3, 4), the population will continue to grow.

Our population will not go into decline but there will be a split as I highlighted above.

 

[El Nino]

It may go down from 9/8/7 to like 5 or 4 maybe 3, but still much higher than the West where 1 or max 2 is the norm.

Anything above 2 (3, 4), the population will continue to grow.

How fast will our transition to be? Some countries fertility goes down rapidly but in our case I don’t think that will happen, rather it will be an gradual fall.

 

[El Nino]

Without doubt, the poor and rural will have a higher population than the urbanised and relatively economically stable. Even some Xalimos back home who have a decent level of education do not want too many children and they tend to marry later decreasing the fertility rate.


Our population will not go into decline but there will be a split as I highlighted above.

How do you envision this disparity will play out?

 

[Apollo]

@anonimo @Guddoomiye

I think 10 million is the optimal number for Somalia. Maybe max 15 million, which it is fast approaching.

But I fear by the time I am a boomer/retiree the country will have 40-50 million people.

Sadly you can't build a wealthy country with that many people and the few resources Somalia has.

 

[Shimbiris]

@anonimo @Guddoomiye

I think 10 million is the optimal number for Somalia. Maybe max 15 million, which it is fast approaching.

But I fear by the time I am a boomer/retiree the country will have 40-50 million people.

Sadly you can't build a wealthy country with that many people and the few resources Somalia has.

Somalia has a lot of land and doesn't have actual, inescapable climactic issues like Scandinavian countries that freeze over every winter and are inappropriate for large scale agriculture. If we restore enough of the desertified lands to greenery with regenerative agriculture techniques and the sorts of projects China has been applying where they've managed to forest as much land as 2 times the size of California, we can more than support 50 million or more, I'd wager. But all of that would take a lot of governmental competence, unity and lacag which Somalis currently sorely lack.

 

[El Nino]

@anonimo @Guddoomiye

I think 10 million is the optimal number for Somalia. Maybe max 15 million, which it is fast approaching.

But I fear by the time I am a boomer/retiree the country will have 40-50 million people.

Sadly you can't build a wealthy country with that many people and the few resources Somalia has.

The country is heading for that directions as you have outlined. We will have 50 million people by 2050. I disagree on the aspect that having that many people is a hindrance.

In my opinion thats the sweet spot, big enough to have large internal market and big enough to not be bullied by other countries economically. Small countries are too dependent on exports and will wither away in time.

 

[anonimo]

How do you envision this disparity will play out?

I reckon it will become a more class orientated society; the haves and the have nots. Qabil will become secondary to money apart from being used as a political rallying cry. Poor people generally put less obstacles towards breeding in most urban societies. Thus, those lower down the socio-economical ladder will have a higher population growth. When I talk to folk back home in the South and the diaspora returnees, two groups appear to be growing the fastest. 1M1V will be a reality check for some.

@anonimo @Guddoomiye

I think 10 million is the optimal number for Somalia. Maybe max 15 million, which it is fast approaching.

But I fear by the time I am a boomer/retiree the country will have 40-50 million people.

Sadly you can't build a wealthy country with that many people and the few resources Somalia has.

You will be fine bro with your crypto millions. I am confident in your ability to secure prime land in New Zealand next to the doomsday elite.

If you lose it all, your broke ass is welcome to join me in my adopted Mennonite settlement in Nebraska. All I ask is you learn how to sing the following with zeal so you may pass for a fellow brethren:

 

[Gojo Satoru]

Nah it's a good thing our population is low. Imagine we have over 1 billion like India or China we'll have to resort to eating the bugs because we can't feed everyone

 

[kadaadi]

Somalis in Ethiopia are now considered to be over 10 million in population.

Somalia is between 12 to 15 million.

I would be surprised if Kenya had more than 3 million Somalis.

Then add another million for other diaspora.

somalia 12-15? huh nigga we're 16 mil while somali galbeed 12 and nfd 3 that makes us 30 mil

 

[Zoobear]

It's a plausible statement, as long as we continue to follow the traditions of our forefathers.

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[World]

@anonimo @Guddoomiye

I think 10 million is the optimal number for Somalia. Maybe max 15 million, which it is fast approaching.

But I fear by the time I am a boomer/retiree the country will have 40-50 million people.

Sadly you can't build a wealthy country with that many people and the few resources Somalia has.

Somalia is a Malthusian trap, it is being kept above famine levels only by donations from the international community. Somalia can’t feed more than 9-10 million people also.

 

[Basra]

We are langaab now but Inshallah we are laandhere in the future! We are joining the big boy league

Little math now so Somalias population is now at 16,5 million people ( likely undercounted but lets stick to it). In Ethiopia, we are 6% of the population. As of now ethiopias population is 117 million people which makes the Somali portion about 7 million ( likely undercounted too but lets stick to it). In Kenya there is 2,78 million maryooleys but lets round it up to 3 mil due to undercount again. All in all there is 26.5 million geeljires running around, a measly amount.

With the current growth and fertility rate there will be twice as much geeljires in 20 years More fanaxs, more farodheers, more discussions regarding mehr, relationships and our geopolitical identity ( race ). Im ecstatic, can’t wait for this.

This is just in 20 years time, imagine furtherOf course an increase in number will cause problems for us, but honestly, it will not be something unbeatable. The more the merrier my friends.

@Shimbiris @Apollo @anonimo @Aurelian what are your thoughts about this situation, personally Im excited kkkk

On a point to increasing the Ummaah of prophet muhammad saw, GOAL. I am elated. On point of increasing lazy, indhoo tuug xaliimos and Farahs-- not so sure. I need convincing.

(i currently have a cousin in Kenya calling me 100 times a day, asking for money. Guilty-ing me by sending photos of his 10 daughters in Burkhas & 2 sons. I mean-- if u r destitute-- why have all these maaskin children? I have sent him money but i can't sustain on a daily thing looool - to be fair to my other cousins-- this particular cousin is a lazy one, he doesn't like to work. His brothers are very successful business men. He likes to marry women and have kids. I guess he has his calling approved by @Guddoomiye )