Was Luqman a Cushite?

[CaliTedesse]

So I've been wondering how they determined he was from Eastern Africa? Also could he have been Somali? Or at least a Cushite?

 

[CaliTedesse]

@Libaaxseendheer

 

[Libaaxseendheer]

He's considered an Adite( 'aad and thamud, 'arab albaa'ida(extinct arabs),) in arab traditions but i've heard habeshi and kushite as well. He was exceedingly black like moses.
Keep in mind many of the tribes listed as hamites in biblical traditions are listed as semites in arab histories. Hamites and semites are more intertwined than modern dhegacas would give off. Inshalla i'm gonna do a thorough thread on Arab tribes and Semites and Hamites. A lot will become clear

 

[Mighty]

He's considered an Adite( 'aad and thamud, 'arab albaa'ida(extinct arabs),) in arab traditions but i've heard habeshi and kushite as well. He was exceedingly black like moses.
Keep in mind many of the tribes listed as hamites in biblical traditions are listed as semites in arab histories. Hamites and semites are more intertwined than modern dhegacas would give off. Inshalla i'm gonna do a thorough thread on Arab tribes and Semites and Hamites. A lot will become clear

This hamite stuff sounds like WE WUZ KANGZ AND SHIT.

 

[Libaaxseendheer]

This hamite stuff sounds like WE WUZ KANGZ AND SHIT.

Thanks for your informative input

 

[CaliTedesse]

Thanks for your informative input

Akhi do you think Luqman was a prophet?

 

[Mighty]

Thanks for your informative input

Sxb it's hard to take any of this serious when the first hit on google is this.

 

[CaliTedesse]

@Mighty Akhi stop being so f*cking ignorant man

 

[Tukraq]

Sxb it's hard to take any of this serious when the first hit on google is this.

It’s a low iq cult trying to make facts of prehistory, when it’s called that for a reason, it’s prehistory lol, groups like the black Israelites abuse non historical books like the Old Testament to harp on said prehistorical tall tales which aren’t proven or fact

 

[CaliTedesse]

It’s a low iq cult trying to make facts of prehistory, when it’s called that for a reason, it’s prehistory lol, groups like the black Israelites abuse non historical books like the Old Testament to harp on said prehistorical tall tales which aren’t proven or fact

We as Muslims don't consider old testament as just tales akhi

 

[Mighty]

We as Muslims don't consider old testament as just tales akhi

It's corrupt so we cant believe anything found in it unless it conforms to what the Quran states.

 

[Tukraq]

We as Muslims don't consider old testament as just tales akhi

The Torah in Islam is the message allah gave to musa and that no longer exists, the Old Testament is a book on the shared history of the Jewish peoples through past down stories canonized in the 1st century bc, its not the same book and Islam thus dosent take the one you claim

 

[Apollo]

Sxb it's hard to take any of this serious when the first hit on google is this.

My IQ has dropped to 68 after skimming through this, my god what a bunch of bullcrap.

 

[Tukraq]

It's corrupt so we cant believe anything found in it unless it conforms to what the Quran states.

This is actually a mistake it’s not the same book that got corrupted but an entirely different book

 

[Libaaxseendheer]

Akhi do you think Luqman was a prophet?

Considering that he wasnt mentioned as such in the quran, im leaning towards no. Allahu a'lam

 

[Mighty]

This is actually a mistake it’s not the same book that got corrupted but an entirely different book

The old testament contradicts the Quran sxb. Check out the story of prophet lot in the old testament. Also watch this video if you have the time, very interesting video.

 

[Degmada waaberi]

We as Muslims don't consider old testament as just tales akhi

If it agrees with the Quran we as Muslims accept it laakiin if it goes against the Quran we reject it. I don't know whether you read or not laakiin it contains disgusting things about the prophets,God and the Angels of Allah (swt) and so many other things that are against our Diin

 

[Mighty]

My IQ has dropped to 68 after skimming through this, my god what a bunch of bullcrap.

Shit cracks me up every timeI hope they never stop.

 

[Libaaxseendheer]

Its all very very interesting. You are goading at a 20+ page thread, which im not just quite fully prepared for. Its in the works
But you may search Dana marniche and read her posts. Its on several websites, chiefly 'afroasiatica an oddysey in black', 'when arabia was eastern ethiopia'. She is the most learned person in these subjects, I can call her my teacher even. I've had the pleasure of speaking with her. A very refined women, that bares no hate and absolutely bombards her articles with quotations and citations of not only ancient sources but WHITE colonial Historians who hold views that are now considered "afrocentric"

 

[Grant]

Its all very very interesting. You are goading at a 20+ page thread, which im not just quite fully prepared for. Its in the works
But you may search Dana marniche and read her posts. Its on several websites, chiefly 'afroasiatica an oddysey in black', 'when arabia was eastern ethiopia'. She is the most learned person in these subjects, I can call her my teacher even. I've had the pleasure of speaking with her. A very refined women, that bares no hate and absolutely bombards her articles with quotations and citations of not only ancient sources but WHITE colonial Historians who hold views that are now considered "afrocentric"

Rasta Livewire!


https://www.africaresource.com/rast...s-“eastern-ethiopia”-part-i-by-dana-marniche/



"The Indigenous Populations of Arabia

The following quotes are from 19th and early 20th century Western historians, whom unlike today’s historians, understood the strong connection of the original Arabians with the Ethiopic peoples of Africa.

1869 “The Cushites. the first inhabitants of Arabia, arc known in the national traditions by the name of Adites, from their progenitor, who is called Ad, the grandson of Ham.” — The New Larned history for Ready Reference Reading and Research, 1922citing F. Lenormant, Manual of Ancient History, bk. 7, ch. 2. published 1869.

1869 – “To the Cushite race belongs the oldest and purest Arabian blood, and also that great and very ancient civilization whose ruins abound in almost every district of the country. ..The south Arabs represent a residue of hamitic populations which at one time occupied the whole of Arabia. “ John Baldwin from Pre-historic nations or inquiries Concerning Some of the Great peoples and Civilizations of Antiquity. Harpers 1869

1881 “ A third body of the Cushites went to the north of the Egypt and founded, on the east of the Delta, the kingdom of the so-called Hyksos , whom tradition designated sometimes as Phoenicians sometimes as Arabians, and in both cases rightly…Lepsius has proved by excellent reasons the Cushite origins of the Hyksos statues from San (Tanis) now in the museum of Boulaq and has made more than merely probable the immigration of the Cushites into the region of the Delta…” p. 402 Heinrich Karl Brugsh in A History of Egypt Under the Pharaohs Derived Entirely from the Monuments, published by John Murray 1881, Vol 2, 2nd edition.

1872 – “Mr. Baldwin draws a marked distinction between the modern Mahomedan Semitic population of Arabia and their great Cushite, Hamite, or Ethiopian predecessors. The former, he says, ‘are comparatively modern in Arabia,’ they have ‘appropriated the reputation of the old race,’ and have unduly occupied the chief attention of modern scholars.” Traditions Superstitions and Folklore, Charles Hardwick , Manchester A. Ireland and Company, 1872

1891 – …the Cushite Arabians and the Chaldeans, the founders of the first historic civilization in Babylonia being certainly Hamitic, though early mixed with Semitic tribes, long before Assyrian rule. Charles William Hutson , The Beginnings of Civilization, The Columbian Publishing Co., New York. 1891.

1902 – Modern Arabians are described thusly – “Among ‘these Negroid features which may be counted normal in Arabs are the full,rather everted lips, shortness and width of nose, certain blanks in the bearded areas of the face between the lower lip and chin and on the cheeks; large, luscious,gazelle-like eyes, a dark brown complexion, and a tendency for the hair to grow in ringlets. Often the features of the more Negroid Arabs are derivatives of Dravidian India rather than inheritances of Hamitic Africa. Although the Arab of today is sharply differentiated from the Negro of Africa, yet there must have been a time when both were represented by a single ancestral stock; in no other way can the prevalence of certain Negroid features be accounted for in the natives of Arabia.” by Henry Field Anthropology, Memoirs Field Museum Press Anthropology, Memoirs Arabs of Central Iraq; Their History, Ethnology and Physical C haracters, Anthropology Memoirs Volume 4,

1923 “There is a considerable mass of evidence to show that there was a very close resemblance between the proto-Egyptians and the Arabs before either became intermingled with Armenoid racial elements.” Elliot Smith p. 54 The Ancient Egyptians and the Origins of Civilization, p.61 2007, earliest publication 1923.

1948 – “In Arabia the first inhabitants were probably a dark-skinned, shortish population intermediate, between the African Hamites and the Dravidians of India and forming a single African Asiatic belt with these. From the Handbook of the Territories which form the Theatre of Operations of the Iraq Petroleum Company Limited and its Associated Companies, First Edition, Compiled in the Companies Head office at 214 Oxford Street London 1948."