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[Kane]

@Waa dhamatay & @Kane

JWALLER is great guy who just like me practices the true red pill philosophy, bundasliga appreciate the comparison.

 

[Odious Delirium]

So in what way can you manipulate if it isn’t finances and it isn’t behavior? If it isn’t your true views or behavior how do you plan to keep a consistent pattern? If I don’t get it, elaborate.

I’m sorry, but if women were telling each other stuff like this, which they do, you wouldn’t like it.

My whole point is, don’t start something you can’t keep up .

@Angelina manipulation isn't a black and white thing. It doesn't have to always be sustained some times implementing it once does the job and some form of manipulation can be grown into and you can become that so it won't matter. For example if your fat or skinny and your speaking to someone long distance you can technically lie and present yourself a certain way while working towards that image you created. Or you can manipulate by doing the opposite and just abstaining and giving out less in how you present yourself which could become a pleasant surprise later on when you decide to reveal or it means you can go about things with less expectations upon you. Overall manipulation doesn't have to be malicious or harmful.

I'll see if I can pull up an example so you better understand what I'm saying here

 

[Angelina]

@Angelina manipulation isn't a black and white thing. It doesn't have to always be sustained some times implementing it once does the job and some form of manipulation can be grown into and you can become that so it won't matter. For example if your fat or skinny and your speaking to someone long distance you can technically lie and present yourself a certain way while working towards that image you created.

Jav are you being serious or you’re trolling. Lying about your wait is silly because many people don’t reach their desired weight despite trying. At times there are roadblocks that are out of your control. Rather silly.

Or you can manipulate by doing the opposite and just abstaining and giving out less in how you present yourself which could become a pleasant surprise later on when you decide to reveal or it means you can go about things with less expectations upon you. Overall manipulation doesn't have to be malicious or harmful.

That is harmful, because people want to be treated a certain way and many people don’t go by potiental but go by what they can see in front of them. Why would a woman marry a man that does the opposite. What does she get out of that i

If they’re not treated a certain way now, they might just decide you’re not the one and go for someone that will treat them how they feel they deserve. If you truly feel that person ticks all the boxes, why take that risk?

That manipulation works on people with low self esteem. A person with self esteem is going to judge you on the now and present as they don’t know you from Adam and they don’t have a Crystal ball that will predict your future behavior.

You’ve literally told me everything I was dreading tbh and believe me when I tell you it destroys potential relationships. Been there done that.

I'll see if I can pull up an example so you better understand what I'm saying here

Lol, that TikToker is clear trolling. Only a sociopath does that. It’s like your wife hiding your laptop in the morning and conveniently finding it so that you think she’s sweet and helpful.

 

[Odious Delirium]

Jav are you being serious or you’re trolling. Lying about your wait is silly because many people don’t reach their desired weight despite trying. At times there are roadblocks that are out of your control. Rather silly.


That is harmful, because people want to be treated a certain way and many people don’t go by potiental but go by what they can see in front of them. Why would a woman marry a man that does the opposite. What does she get out of that i

If they’re not treated a certain way now, they might just decide you’re not the one and go for someone that will treat them how they feel they deserve. If you truly feel that person ticks all the boxes, why take that risk?

That manipulation works on people with low self esteem. A person with self esteem is going to judge you on the now and present as they don’t know you from Adam and they don’t have a Crystal ball that will predict your future behavior.

You’ve literally told me everything I was dreading tbh and believe me when I tell you it destroys potential relationships. Been there done that.

Lol, that TikToker is clear trolling. Only a sociopath does that. It’s like your wife hiding your laptop in the morning and conveniently finding it so that you think she’s sweet and helpful.

These where all example not anything I personally intent to do and I am a sociopath and a troll

Why you analysing non related examples for
They where just examples to illustrate that manipulation is a grey thing with many angles not that I intend to do any of that. I'm just tell you I know what I'm talking about im not just saying things for the sake of it.

Plus I ain't fat I already posted my pic on here

I haven't divulged what I intend to do myself did you miss the point where i clearly stated these where examples

 

[Kane]

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Manipulation in general is only good for short term hook ups it doesn't work in long term relationships, because whatever bs you convince that women of, you ll have to continue it for the duration of that relationships. if you fail she loses trust in you, for your lack of consistency and there goes her security along with your respect.

Even worst to minuplate a women you will have to enter her frame and qualify yourself to her, and in the process giving her the keys to the relationships. I've seen a lot of men play this game, and they are always hiding from their wives, because her non trusting controlling nature. which the man himself is responsible for creating.

Please don’t manipulate. You won’t be able to live up to what she wants as that’s not really you and then that is when the nagging starts and feeling of being deceived comes into play.

exactly this is what i have witnessed with these men, the wife was playing the role of the controlling mother, and the guy was treated like one of her children.

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you made a good call you should be proud.

 

[Odious Delirium]

Manipulation in general is only good for short term hook ups it doesn't work in long term relationships, because whatever bs you convince that women of, you ll have to continue it for the duration of that relationships. if you fail she loses trust in you, for your lack of consistency and there goes her security along with your respect.

Even worst to minuplate a women you will have to enter her frame and qualify yourself to her, and in the process giving her the keys to the relationships. I've seen a lot of men play this game, and they are always hiding from their wives, because her non trusting controlling nature. which the man himself is responsible for creating.


exactly this is what i have witnessed with these men, the wife was playing the role of the controlling mother, and the guy was treated like one of her children.

you made a good call you should be proud.

I'm just trolling @Angelina to see if I could get a reaction which is why I @ed her originally when I started talking about manipulating to see if she would bite.

To my disappointment she did which is sus she hasn't said a thing about other members who have spoken of planning to manipulate countless times across multiple threads I wonder why

 

[Angelina]

Manipulation in general is only good for short term hook ups it doesn't work in long term relationships, because whatever bs you convince that women of, you ll have to continue it for the duration of that relationships. if you fail she loses trust in you, for your lack of consistency and there goes her security along with your respect.

Exactly. That is literally it.

Even worst to minuplate a women you will have to enter her frame and qualify yourself to her, and in the process giving her the keys to the relationships. I've seen a lot of men play this game, and they are always hiding from their wives, because her non trusting controlling nature. which the man himself is responsible for creating.

It goes both ways. Some women end up becoming miserable as the man doesn’t budge. It’s like the classic Somali saying marry her with lies, live with her in truth. Then the woman feels hurt and deceived, nags and nags ( husband doesn’t care to listen) and then checks out emotionally and then later on when she asks for a divorce the husband feels blind sided and is then telling everyone how she divorced him for no reason .

Many men don’t enter her ‘frame’. Many men do what they want and how they want, but don’t understand that a person cannot be okay with a switch up.

Either way, it’s imperative that a man is treating you how you want willingly. He’s doing it out of his own accord.

exactly this is what i have witnessed with these men, the wife was playing the role of the controlling mother, and the guy was treated like one of her children.

If he just acted like his natural self, she would either accept it or leave, giving him space to find someone who would marry him for his current and natural behavior and if he realizes that women don’t want that then instead of resorting to manipulation, maybe he should take the time out and try and work on himself.

you made a good call you should be proud.

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[Angelina]

I'm just trolling @Angelina to see if I could get a reaction which is why I @ed her originally when I started talking about manipulating to see if she would bite.

To my disappointment she did which is sus she hasn't said a thing about other members who have spoken of planning to manipulate countless times across multiple threads I wonder why

I just expected better from you. Others here are mad mad. Also, I wasn’t debating with you. More like sisterly advise.

 

[Odious Delirium]

I just expected better from you. Others here are mad mad. Also, I wasn’t debating with you. More like sisterly advise.

I have been trolling lately I thought you would pick on quickly. I know you weren't debating me

 

[JackieBurkhart]

@Angelina, did you get my mention?

 

[Angelina]

@Angelina, did you get my mention?

Hi, no I didn’t get your mention. Where did you mention me? I just got the notification for this mention.

 

[Angelina]

@JackieBurkhart

Hi, saw it now.

 

[Yaraye]

I'm in serious trouble. I have no manipulation tactic. I'm a straight forward person. If a manipulative man marries me, I'm screwed

 

[Dualke]

Please don’t manipulate. You won’t be able to live up to what she wants as that’s not really you and then that is when the nagging starts and feeling of being deceived comes into play.

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With regards to the provision part. Any manipulative behavior you engage in will not make up lack of provision if the relationship ends up being one in which the women ends up paying more or is paying but also doing more duties as well. Financial issues is one of the biggest reasons for divorce. Sooner or later the wife will wake up from her slumber when real life kicks in and she’s stressed due to providing and running after the kids but you’re not an equal partner despite not being a man she can lean/rely on.

Even with the point of provision and obedience. A woman isn’t going to find it easy to respect you if you don’t treat her well. So that isn’t even foolproof. To add, even if you’re a great husband but she doesn’t like/love you, or is an ungrateful individual, she might even respect you as well. Nothing in real life is foolproof. You just have to wish for the best. Do your role as a man, treat her the best way you possible can and if she treats you how you need to be treated, then great, if not have enough respect for yourself to walk away.

This. People that feel the need to manipulate have some serious trust issues and aren't emotionally ready to be getting married

 

[Odious Delirium]

I'm in serious trouble. I have no manipulation tactic. I'm a straight forward person. If a manipulative man marries me, I'm screwed

I doubt you got anything to worry about

and I was joking plus the vast majority of people are good and not manipulative

 

[Odious Delirium]

Jav are you being serious or you’re trolling. Lying about your wait is silly because many people don’t reach their desired weight despite trying. At times there are roadblocks that are out of your control. Rather silly.


That is harmful, because people want to be treated a certain way and many people don’t go by potiental but go by what they can see in front of them. Why would a woman marry a man that does the opposite. What does she get out of that i

If they’re not treated a certain way now, they might just decide you’re not the one and go for someone that will treat them how they feel they deserve. If you truly feel that person ticks all the boxes, why take that risk?

That manipulation works on people with low self esteem. A person with self esteem is going to judge you on the now and present as they don’t know you from Adam and they don’t have a Crystal ball that will predict your future behavior.

You’ve literally told me everything I was dreading tbh and believe me when I tell you it destroys potential relationships. Been there done that.

Lol, that TikToker is clear trolling. Only a sociopath does that. It’s like your wife hiding your laptop in the morning and conveniently finding it so that you think she’s sweet and helpful.

Bruh ever since this discussion my algorithm on everything has been about manipulating/creeping and stalking