Virginia Luling is Back in Print!

[Grant]

https://www.loohpress.com/product_info.php/products_id/1643

Somali Sultanate - The Geledi City-State over 150 Years; Virginia Lulling
[AUTHOR: Virginia Lulling | HARDCOVER: 296 PAGES | 2002 FIRST EDITION | PUBLISHED: HAAN publishing | UK | ISBN: 1-874209-98-7 |]
£29.95

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Also available:

Heelloy, Somali songs and poetry by John William Johnson. He worked with Mussa Galaal and established the Somali collection at Indiana State University.

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[Marquis]

@geeljire madaxweyne
@Factz

You guys should buy this book since y'all are obsessed with Geledi

 

[madaxweyne]

looked good untill i saw the name grantz the natorious anti cushitic somali hater so im not even gonna bother besides this book was written in 2002 so im no itnrested ill pass

 

[Grant]

@geeljire madaxweyne
@Factz

You guys should buy this book since y'all are obsessed with Geledi

The twins will not be making much of this. Virginia lived in Afgooye for three years, beginning in 1966, returning in 1980, 1989 and 1996. She did for the Shabelli valley what Catherine Besteman did for the Jubba in about the same period. She is highly respected, but has been out of print for years, which made her a target for those falsifying Wikipedia pages. Her name was used as the source for the fake Wiki article used to claim Ahmad Yusuf of Geledi got tribute from the Omanis at Lamu, etc.. The last used copy of City State available at Amazon was $795, so I passed. This new printing is a bargain at $40, with shipping from the UK. Bless Loohpress!

Virginia died in 2013, but her book is a classic. Everybody quotes her. She was Honorary Secretary of the Anglo-Somali Society from 2008-2012, when she was diagnosed with cancer. Lovely lady. Photo also at this site:

http://www.anglosomalisociety.org.uk/documents/AaObituaryVirginiaLuling.pdf


"It was field research for her Ph.D., under the supervision of I.M.Lewis, that took her in 1966 to Somalia where she lived in the town of Afgooye, near Mogadishu, for three years. Lewis had recently visited the town, with its peculiar tradition of an annual ‘stick fight’, and he suggested that an investigation into its background would make a good research project. The photograph shows Virginia in Afgooye in 1967, with friend Faaduma Cusmaan Diine. Completion of the degree was delayed until 1972 by the family circumstances following the untimely death of her mother. During the 1970s she taught for the Open University and volunteered locally for the newly-formed Survival International. Virginia’s Ph.D. thesis plus on-going research was the basis of her book, Somali Sultanate: The Geledi City State over 150 years, published by Haan in 2002. She had returned to Afgooye in 1980 and in 1989. The strangest of her visits was in 1996, after the fall of the Siad Barre régime, when for two days only she was able to drive out from a half-ruined Mogadishu, in a vehicle guarded by young men with AK 47s, to a dreamlike encounter with the people she had known in happier times. The book is a study of life in Afgooye, and of the two clans whose home it has been for three centuries, the Geledi and Wacdaan. Virginia described it as a political entity before the colonial period, a small republic of allied lineage groups with at its head the Suldaan who is both a religious and a political leader, but who works with and is responsible to the elders (akhyaar). She saw how it changed and yet preserved its key institutions under Italian colonisation, then after the independence of Somalia, later under the 'Scientific Socialism’ of Siad Barre, and finally into the violence and political fragmentation that followed his fall."

 

[VixR]

looked good untill i saw the name grantz the natorious anti cushitic somali hater so im not even gonna bother besides this book was written in 2002 so im no itnrested ill pass

What am I missing? What’s threatening about a book on some Somali tribe’s poetry and lives?

 

[Ras]

What am I missing? What’s threatening about a book on some Somali tribe’s poetry and lives?

Grant has this tendency to stand up for minorities in Somalia which we obviously can't have.

 

[VixR]

Grant has this tendency to stand up for minorities in Somalia which we obviously can't have.

A minority? As in a small Somali tribe?

I’ll never understand what reason Western-raised Somalis have to hate some random tribe back home to that extent. Even in the absence of interaction, the borrowed Arab proverb “I Against My Brother, Against My Cousin, Against the World” is strikingly well-preserved in some of our mentality, though they’ve traded AKs for keyboards.

 

[Grant]

Grant has this tendency to stand up for minorities in Somalia which we obviously can't have.

The truth is finally coming out! It's all Samaale supremacist politics.

Here is the falsified Wikipedia page the "patriots" have created:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_the_Geledi

And here the references:

"Notes[edit]

1. ^ Historical Dictionary of Somalia. p. xxix. Retrieved 2014-02-15.
2. ^ Historical Dictionary of Somalia. p. 210. Retrieved 2014-02-15.
3. ^ Luling (1993), p.13.
4. ^ Luling (2002), p.272.
5. ^ Transactions of the Bombay Geographical Society ..by Bombay Geographical Society pg.392
6. ^ Jump up to:a b c d Historical Dictionary of Somalia. p. 26. Retrieved 2014-02-15.

References[edit]

• Luling, Virginia (2002). Somali Sultanate: the Geledi city-state over 150 years. Transaction Publishers. ISBN 0-7658-0914-1.
• Luling, Virginia (1993). The Use of the Past: Variation in Historical traditions in a South Somalia community. University of Besançon.

Further reading[edit]

• Virginia Luling (2002). Somali Sultanate: the Geledi city-state over 150 years. Transaction Publishers. ISBN 0-7658-0914-1."

Anyone with a copy of Mukhtar's Historical Dictionary can easily see the links to him are false. Page xxix says Yusuf captures and burns Bardera in 1843, but is killed by the Biamaal in 1848 and the Geledi army retreats. Ahmad Yusuf is killed by the Biamaal in 1878. The Geledi never consolidated power for the simple reason their allies abandoned them. No one in the coastal strip wanted anyone monopolizing the Shabeele river trade, which is what the Geledi were after..

The falsifiers thought they were safe with Luling, because she has been out of print and so difficult to access. Well, that will soon change. We already know all that grandiose stuff about forcing the Omanis to pay tribute, aiding the coastal states, dominating the Indian Ocean trade, etc., is false. The 1915 map they are using is especially ridiculous as the Italians had full control by 1908 and Osman died and the Sultanate was disestablished in 1910.

You can read an accurate account by Scott Reese, and my analysis here:

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/yusuf-and-ahmad.48176/#post-1320180

Luling is additional, but will finally put this particular baby to rest. Sadly, there are many more falsified pages. The "patriots" have been busy.