USC failed miserably, but what about SNM?

SNM failed. They want to carve up somalia and become a British common wealth. After 30 years their ambitions have proven fruitless.
 

somalipatriot

Unfortunately, therefore lack of any wisdom
SNM lost. They want to carve up somalia and become a British common wealth. After 30 years their ambitions have proven fruitless.
I see you’re opposed to both rebel movements so am I as well as the preceding rebel groups SSDF and SPM
 
False that clan was never targeted the Somali national army was only involved in mudug November 1989 when the 4th division mutinied general maslah send troops to suppress the mutiny. These were not attacks but simply keeping law and order Somalia was a stable safe country in those days there wasn’t violence here and there unlike today which you’re an advocate of and the disastrous legacy the USC have left behind to the people of Somalia and the carving up of the country
Oh, am I supposed to take the word of one Afweyne's orphans now over widespread evidence now?

Go worship that Nigerian toilet.
 
SNM, USC, and SPM achieved their objective. They made sure that SSDF martyrs did not die in vain. The chaos in SomaaliaItaliana was caused by Afweyne's last ditch incitement of Daaroodism which led to an Iriris backlack in the South and then CaliMahdi preventing an orderly mulilateral government involving Caydiid, SNM, SPM, and SSDF.

The lesson from 1991: toxic tribalism can backfire badly as it did on Afweyne and all the people he led astray. And CaliMahdi is a biidhiqaate who also sanctified the 2006 CabdillahiYusuf invitation of Xabashi troops to Muqdisho

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What was the USC formed for?

To kick afweyne out ,
Afweyne eg.jpg


Theve done their job if you ask me . Ciyaal dadaab will deny it tho
 
calaacal maaha dhaqan marehan. its irir folks who have jalle siad on their lips.
But is only yall who are reminiscing of the past lol
No isaaq or hawiye even makes threads of afweyne or the past . If you look at the development section youd know that too .
Mx were just calacaling of the whooping they received few days ago .
 
Imo winning is when you controll the economy , and develop infrastructure ,schools/universities.
Let's look who controlls what and the developments .
Hawiye controll the economy in the south , isaaq controlls the north .

@somalipatriot sends money to his relatives back home using the children of usc remittance company , @TekNiKo uses the children of USC telecommunication company while hes back home.
@somalipatriot uncle farmajo is forced to eat the fruits that are grown in ciyaal usc farms , the milk from usc cows/camels .
Mogadishu uni , jazeera uni ,simaad uni and other universities in xamar were started by the hard work of the children of USC .

I'm not even going to go into which cities are the most developed but I will post
Ciyaal usc & Snm business cooperation development that are about to start /started




Mayallah bless the children of SNM & USC . May Allah protect us from the evil eyes of the kacan orphans
 
SNM, USC, and SPM achieved their objective. They made sure that SSDF martyrs did not die in vain. The chaos in SomaaliaItaliana was caused by Afweyne's last ditch incitement of Daaroodism which led to an Iriris backlack in the South and then CaliMahdi preventing an orderly mulilateral government involving Caydiid, SNM, SPM, and SSDF.

The lesson from 1991: toxic tribalism can backfire badly as it did on Afweyne and all the people he led astray. And CaliMahdi is a biidhiqaate who also sanctified the 2006 CabdillahiYusuf invitation of Xabashi troops to Muqdisho

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This one isaaqi is sick in the head . He has alot of cuqdad for ali Mahdi. May ali Mahdi offspring ravage your sisters siil .Amiin iska dheh
 
This one isaaqi is sick in the head . He has alot of cuqdad for ali Mahdi. May ali Mahdi offspring ravage your sisters siil .Amiin iska dheh



CaliMahdi is responsible for SNM giving up on the union. The SNM turned attention to the North where Irir/Jabarti except for bahArarsame and Ciise

I blame him for JSL withdrawal from the union. I blame him adn CalGeeddi as they made it possible for CabdillahiYusuf to credibly say Xabashistani troops were requested by TFG

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CaliMahdi is responsible for SNM giving up on the union. The SNM turned attention to the North where Irir/Jabarti except for bahArarsame and Ciise

I blame him for JSL withdrawal from the union. I blame him adn CalGeeddi as they made it possible for CabdillahiYusuf to credibly say Xabashistani troops were requested by TFG

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Sxb. I hold no ill will to Cali Mahdi than I do to Caydiid both were heroes with different political ideals.
 

somalipatriot

Unfortunately, therefore lack of any wisdom
usc primarly killed and tormented hawiyes. no other jabhad spent majority of their time making life hell for their demographic. snm didnt do that.
Which demographic do you belong to? Since I’m sure it’s certainly not the Somali ethnic one .. Somali matters should be discussed by Somalis only
 
CaliMahdi is responsible for SNM giving up on the union. The SNM turned attention to the North where Irir/Jabarti except for bahArarsame and Ciise

I blame him for JSL withdrawal from the union. I blame him adn CalGeeddi as they made it possible for CabdillahiYusuf to credibly say Xabashistani troops were requested by TFG

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I know your looking for someone to blame but al Mahdi AUN didnt put a gun to the elders of snm heads and tell them to leave the union . The children of SNM fought hard and liberated themselfs from tyranny ,they are happy to be separated from the failed state called Somalia if ali Mahdi aun was responsible for that they should thank him.

is off the sheegad list. Why do I get the feeling youre more upset about something otha than CaliMahdi

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How long did you have @Bariire On the sheegato list?
I'm confused .
Your a somali speaking ethiopian just like that parasite khadar guleed who made you the gate keeper of HAG ? How can you say whose hawiye and who isnt ?
 
I know your looking for someone to blame but al Mahdi AUN didnt put a gun to the elders of snm heads and tell them to leave the union . The children of SNM fought hard and liberated themselfs from tyranny ,they are happy to be separated from the failed state called Somalia if ali Mahdi aun was responsible for that they should thank him.
I think Gadhwayne is simplifying things a little too much.

The northern elders objected to not being involved in the process that led to led to Cali Mahdi eventually being elected in Djibouti. They saw it as the typical southern Somalis ignoring the will of the northern people altogether. Somaliland, along with Caydiid, boycotted the 1991 Djibouti conference. However, by then the course for independence was already set for reer Somaliland, as what we saw as "Wanlaweyn tactics" , was already becoming evident again. Cali Mahdi as the winner of that process is therefore often lumped with all the blame, but the truth was a little bit more nuanced than that.
 

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I think Gadhwayne is simplifying things a little too much.

The northern elders objected to not being involved in the process that led to led to Cali Mahdi eventually being elected in Djibouti. They saw it as the typical southern Somalis ignoring the will of the northern people altogether. Somaliland, along with Caydiid, boycotted the 1991 Djibouti conference. However, by then the course for independence was already set for reer Somaliland, as what we saw as "Wanlaweyn tactics" , was already becoming evident again. Cali Mahdi as the winner of that process is therefore often lumped with all the blame, but the truth was a little bit more nuanced than that.
the 1991 djibouti conference and most of the other conferences were useless.
 

reer

VIP
Useless yes, but no more useless than every other process that elected a "president" of Somalia since then, all the way up to Farmaajo.
the warlords had legitimate power through the clan militias. the amisom presidents are kept afloat by bantu and xabashi hordes.
 
I think Gadhwayne is simplifying things a little too much.

The northern elders objected to not being involved in the process that led to led to Cali Mahdi eventually being elected in Djibouti. They saw it as the typical southern Somalis ignoring the will of the northern people altogether. Somaliland, along with Caydiid, boycotted the 1991 Djibouti conference. However, by then the course for independence was already set for reer Somaliland, as what we saw as "Wanlaweyn tactics" , was already becoming evident again. Cali Mahdi as the winner of that process is therefore often lumped with all the blame, but the truth was a little bit more nuanced than that.
Dude has 2 pages dedicated to ali Mahdi aun . Just search ali Mahdi aun under his name kkkk
@Gadhwayne
The ethnic hawiye samaale have a reputation of not blaming on ppl or dwelling on the past .
You have the right to blame anyone heck you can blame usc for destroying hargeisa or burco , you can blame any of the usc factions for getting somaliland to secede just know the children of usc dont care we see you as a parasitic somali speaking ethiopia .when the 4.5 madness ends we will not have any somali speaking ethiopians in our government .

Aun to the mujahid of USC from both factions.
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