US Imperialism Fails in Nicarauga

[AMusee]

 

[James Dahl]

This hasn't totally played out yet, I wouldn't count the US out of doing a Bolivia style coup, so let's not congratulate ourselves quite yet

 

[AMusee]

This hasn't totally played out yet, I wouldn't count the US out of doing a Bolivia style coup, so let's not congratulate ourselves quite yet

The failures keep adding up

 

[AMusee]

US govt-backed social media companies meddle in Nicaragua's elections​

 

[GemState]

Chile is the only place i can think of in south america that benefited from American intervention, the rest is a complete disaster

 

[AMusee]

Chile is the only place i can think of in south america that benefited from American intervention, the rest is a complete disaster

There is no benefits in subjugation and being looted.

 

[AMusee]

There is no benefits in subjugation and being looted.

 

[Nilotic]

I am entirely opposed to the Wall-Street-Washington consensus, however, why is this guy on his 4th term? Shouldn't he establish a durable system that is based on institutions instead of one based on individuals?

 

[AMusee]

I am entirely opposed to the Wall-Street-Washington consensus, however, why is this guy on his 4th term? Shouldn't he establish a durable system that is based on institutions instead of one based on individuals?

If the people of Nicarauga choose to vote for him and support him why is that a problem?

 

[Nilotic]

If the people of Nicarauga choose to vote for him and support him why is that a problem?

Because it presents a terrible and inexcusable vulnerability in terms of the cleavages it opens up for hostile external propaganda and in security terms.

Nation-States that hinge everything on the vision and brilliance of an individual almost invariably fail after their 'dear leader' is deposed or dies.

We should be governed by institutions instead of individuals because institutions are enduring; out of individuals, ideologies and institutions... individuals are the least important; we should reduce these people to the status of temporary custodians and avatars.

 

[AMusee]

New US war on Nicaragua's Sandinistas: OAS rejects elections, Biden imposes sanctions​

 

[James Dahl]

Here come the sanctions and the OAS, brace yourselves, this is nowhere near over.

The US will not tolerate a socialist government in the western hemisphere

 

[Omar del Sur]

Posting in this thread to attack Allende... well... to point out that Allende was a freemason

I hate the whole narrative that is pushed and I hate how there is this sort of "islamoleftist" element that supports these marxist people. for example Yasser Arafat and PLO supported the montoneros marxist terrorists in Argentina during the 70's.

The issue isn't that one side or the other side is the right side. The issue is that both sides are controlled by Freemasons. It is one band of Freemasons versus another band of Freemasons... they're not even all that versus each other.

Let me give a current example- Pedro Castillo. People may remember how I promoted his opponent Keiko.

Pedro Castillo is basically the same as Evo Morales/castrochavismo/etc. "Man of the people" who just happens to be a Marxist rather than socially conservative Catholics (I watched Castillo's campaign closely- it is not that rural Peruvians are Marxists rather than conservative Catholics- it's that Castillo was offering EVERYTHING FREE and people thought like government handouts would rain from the sky with Castillo).... anyways.... Peru is now pushing extreme mandates where you can't be in any enclosed space without proof of vaccination.

Obrador gave a speech that was basically identical to the Biden speech where Biden first attacked the unvaccinated. Putin, Obrador, Pedro Castillo- these are supposed to be "enemies of the US". Why are all they all pushing the same stuff?

It's fake. It's like Democrats and Republicans. At the top, the opposition is fake and they're not actually opposed to each other.

I hate this narrative of "Latin Americans are noble Marxists while the US are evil right-wingers".... it is not as simple as that.... Woodrow Wilson supported the leftist revolutionary factions in Mexico during his presidency (Villa, Carranza)- Ronald Reagan supported the right-wing Contras in Nicaragua.... in fact, Jimmy Carter actually helped bring the Sandinistas to power.... Jimmy Carter helped bring down the Somoza regime.... it is not as simple as the media narrative that Latin Americans are noble Marxists being oppressed by right-wing USers... actually, left-wing USers tend to support left-wing Latin Americans and right-wing USers tend to support right-wing Latin Americans.... Maduro himself said he has great relations with the US left and he is friends with the BLM people

anyways, supporting these Latin American Marxists is pointless. it's like supporting the Houthis. what are the Houthis ever going to do? they're going to chant "death to America?". so what? Iran, Houthis, Putin... they chant "death to America" or such kind of thing all day.... soooo what???

if a politician does something against abortion- at least that's doing something. choosing a Marxist who offers anti-US slogans while never actually doing anything against the US.... what is the point? even worse are the Shia... "death to America" they cry as they march to go fight Sunni Muslims... sticking it to the US, supposedly somehow.... by killing Sunnis....

 

[Nasser Nyerere]

Chile is the only place i can think of in south america that benefited from American intervention, the rest is a complete disaster

Are you aware of how ruthless and repressive pinochet was? Many people lost their loved during his rule.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Here come the sanctions and the OAS, brace yourselves, this is nowhere near over.

The US will not tolerate a socialist government in the western hemisphere

you mean like the governments of Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba, Bolivia, Peru and Mexico? it's like half the region is now in league with castrochavismo and I think the government of Colombia will soon be in that same league. and then what happens once Bolsonaro falls? almost certainly, he will be replaced by a government that is of that same castrochavista type ideology. If the US was really hardcore about fighting the reds, they would be staunchly backing Bolsonaro but that is not the case at all.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Are you aware of how ruthless and repressive pinochet was? Many people lost their loved during his rule.

Media is biased against him. I don't know of anything in English mass media that is pro-Pinochet. People are given a very slanted version of what happened.

 

[James Dahl]

you mean like the governments of Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba, Bolivia, Peru and Mexico? it's like half the region is now in league with castrochavismo and I think the government of Colombia will soon be in that same league. and then what happens once Bolsonaro falls? almost certainly, he will be replaced by a government that is of that same castrochavista type ideology. If the US was really hardcore about fighting the reds, they would be staunchly backing Bolsonaro but that is not the case at all.

The US has attempted to overthrow the government of Cuba hundreds of times, and overthrew the government of Bolivia in a coup d'etat only 2 years ago, and are organizing another attempt to overthrow the newly elected government. Just because the US does not always succeed doesn't mean they aren't actively trying to overthrow and destroy all of these governments.

The mission statement of the OAS is literally to destroy socialism in the western hemisphere.

 

[Omar del Sur]

The US has attempted to overthrow the government of Cuba hundreds of times, and overthrew the government of Bolivia in a coup d'etat only 2 years ago, and are organizing another attempt to overthrow the newly elected government. Just because the US does not always succeed doesn't mean they aren't actively trying to overthrow and destroy all of these governments.

The mission statement of the OAS is literally to destroy socialism in the western hemisphere.

Let's take a step back.

Here come the sanctions and the OAS, brace yourselves, this is nowhere near over.

The US will not tolerate a socialist government in the western hemisphere

You said the US will not tolerate a socialist government. Like half the governments in Latin America (I listed some previously) are aligned with Cuba and Venezuela these days.

So the US is either unable or unwilling to enforce any policy of there not being any socialist governments in the hemisphere.

I think Biden or some government representatives will say some stuff against some of these governments. I think Maduro will go on TeleSur and RT saying "the yankee imperialists have carried out a plot against us," he will talk about some latest yankee plot against his government and life will go on as normal.

I don't think the Latin American leftists are shaking in their boots at the US taking down their governments. Their attitude is they are winning- because they are. They lost power in Bolivia but they came right back into power and are in a process of expansion and consolidation throughout the region. Even if one of their governments fell, they would still have a bunch of their other governments in region. They've gone from rebels to the establishment.

I think the leftist tide in Latin America willl recede but not due to "US imperialism" but due to people getting fed up with bad policies. Marxism is inherently wrong and no amount of blaming the US can make it work. China has basically won in Latin America. It doesn't make sense for those governments to keep blaming the US for their failures.

 

[AMusee]

The US has attempted to overthrow the government of Cuba hundreds of times, and overthrew the government of Bolivia in a coup d'etat only 2 years ago, and are organizing another attempt to overthrow the newly elected government. Just because the US does not always succeed doesn't mean they aren't actively trying to overthrow and destroy all of these governments.

The mission statement of the OAS is literally to destroy socialism in the western hemisphere.

 

[AMusee]