True. They missed a huge chance of ruling the Somali republic, 1991-96 was their chance but they never believed in themselves or their capacity to rule the Somali nation. Always felt the underdog undeserving of leading the nation.
US delegation arrives for talks with Somaliland president
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Itsnotthateasy
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The writing is on the wall it's your choice to read it or not.
Mogadishu obviously is desperate to isolate Somaliland everywhere but the tide has turned and will keep turning. It cannot stop Somaliland rise.
Abdisamad
VIP
Man I gotta respect your determination, how many times have you told us recognition is right on the corner since the MoU with Ethiopia how many threads have you made where we could almost write off SL as an independent nation... Anyway I'm not gonna be xasid, I hope you get recognition and even further become a bright and prosperous country.. Somalia as a country is dead and the south is ever slipping more into darkness of corruption, terrorism and foreign control..
Itsnotthateasy
VIP
If South Somalia was a nigga you would cross the road to avoid that.
Somaliland recognition is existential.
Almis
The Gulf of Berbera
So you are basically saying 'let SL come and fix the chaos and anarchy I made" joining the south was the worst decision ever made. By Allah wax danbe oo unity ah jirimaayo
Guys, just give up already. This is making me feel bad for you. US doesn't give a shit about clans fighting over some African shithole.
Also, stop saying Sool and Somaliland. This is a clan warfare. Use the correct terms.
Also, stop saying Sool and Somaliland. This is a clan warfare. Use the correct terms.
LOL We will never organize. We're only waiting for the foreigners to leave so we can peacefully get back to our schemes. @DR OSMAN
Are you dumb ? SSC and Puntland don't want independence
All failed regional backwaters of Zo*malia. You think Trump cares about the deserts of Eastern Sool?
Aren't U coined by Somalis in that region as just beesha dhexe(A middle clan among larger exterior clans of Harti) or Northern Triangular regions by some MJS? As an Osman Mahmoud royal descendant I insult your people f*ck right off son and bring me ya king in England as Im from a kingdom too and will not lower myself to speak to his royal Isaaq subjects. Boqorkagi engris Iyo boqorkagi ayaa shir loo gaban doona si looga xaajado arimaha Isaaq.
read my statement. again dude. It is very unlikely Somaliland will achieve independence. I said "if" Somaliland is an independent state which is very unlikely. then puntland and ssc khatumo will also be an independent sovereign states but they dont want to. i know that. Somalia will become a one state no more separation. got it? period. GREATER SOMALIA IS THE WAY! SOMALIA HA NOOLAATO!
Abdisamad
VIP
You know the south is hopeless when Qoslaye who barely controls Mogadishu has the aspirations to be a dictator by force.. Even babies know they need to crawl before walking and running
In the past many years I've been opposed to breaking up Somalia but as time passes I've realised I've been wrong all those years.. My only concern with an internationally recognized SL is if you come to oppress my fellow Harti brothers in SSC, or come to destroy Puntland.. If a mutual peaceful solution is found on these issues then I don't see why SL shouldn't get it's recognition.
Abdisamad
VIP
You are partially right brother, PL has been pro Somalia unity for many years but us time passes on and with Qoslaye in office looking to dismantle federalism and only rule and call the shots from Muqdisho under Turkish and amisom protection PL is forced to go it's own path, as for SSC I think they're fine being ruled from Mogadishu, they think they're more Somali than other states and Patriots, good for Qoslaye, but very bad deal for reer SSC, but really they'll find out sooner or later..
You know the south is hopeless when Qoslaye who barely controls Mogadishu has the aspirations to be a dictator by force.. Even babies know they need to crawl before walking and running
In the past many years I've been opposed to breaking up Somalia but as time passes I've realised I've been wrong all those years.. My only concern with an internationally recognized SL is if you come to oppress my fellow Harti brothers in SSC, or come to destroy Puntland.. If a mutual peaceful solution is found on these issues then I don't see why SL shouldn't get it's recognition.
SL recognition lol
it needs to be recognised by Somalia not outside world as per any new nation protocol yet all they do is the opposite.Plus the local conditions are unfavorable for a successful nation when you actually look at it below the surface with the habar on habar wars switching from direct conflict in the mid 90s to indirect conflict post 2000 till this very day. Upon independence the predictions are another South Sudan type of outcome as they do share very similar beginnings(an external enemy) and once that external enemy was no longer relevant, the guns turn on each other internally.
It's not much different to post 77 Siyad Barre external enemy posture and once the world saw if they remove that factor, the internal demise will happen and it did and SL is predicted with identical outcomes. SL independence was rushed bro, very impulsive and fudeednimo which that region is notoriously known for as U can see even online too. Their not smart clan bro but a very loud and act on impulses type of clan.
Abdisamad
VIP
Getting recognition is not an easy task.. @Itsnotthateasy is very eager to share the slightest news hinting to an SL recognition.. Very persistent character we must give him that, I think if this brother invested such a high level of enthusiasm, energy and motivation into a business or otherwise a rewarding career path, I think he would be very successful.. Too bad such a high level of motivation is wasted on SL recognition.. I'm afraid some years down the road a gray haired @Itsnotthateasy realises SL ain't getting any recognition and depression kicks in, that would be tragic.
Abdisamad
VIP
What Somalia, the chimps in the amisom bunker? Sorry I cannot not take you serious with such argumentsSL recognition lol
What Somalia, the chimps in the amisom bunker? Sorry I cannot not take you serious with such arguments
Mogadishu is a separate issue to SL as it has so many moryan networks concealed and very sophisticated and adjust to any new geopolitical disorder movement mainly driven by financial gain and reinvesting it as they source it thru Local zako, foreign terror funds, diaspora gullible funds. It's all funds centric their issue(xaa cuna ama hunguri), the mashruc tho can be anything as long as it meets their financial agenda such as islamism, national politics, oil, checkpoints, IDP rackets, burial plot isbaaros, donor funds, snatching random niggas and doing organ harvesting or trade with Turkish run hospitals, basically anything for that mighty dollar is the driving force for them. It all started from darod house looting and govt assets and is now quite a brutal system.
Mogadishu has a moryan value system post warlord era, it did leave a legacy the civil war and criminal enterprise era lol
it shifted the whole goal post to xaa cuna at all cost. Moryans exist in all Somalia but Mogadishu is its founding homeland and epicenter and due to statelessness has given it a more favorable environment to be selected in larger volume.The moryan red eyes is always there in Mogadishu, the only question ppl wonder is the shaar their wearing or the next con job. Infact some even say they prefer this disorder as it does play well into their global agenda teaming up with disorder agents worldwide to fan it out globally and inherit more land or loot on a settled fat ass population in the developed world.
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@Abdisamad
Mogadishu ain't much different to Nairobbery in Kenya, the only real difference is they do it in a more crafted way then blatantly in public like Nairobi thugs do on the street and it's usually far more then just the petty items, it's about that pay day of all pay days type of motives and setting up channels to clean it or inject it elsewhere into other crime driven enterprises as long as the growth is there. Nothing is off the table either.
Infact bro in Africa the moryan segment is very minimal and a concentrated class I mean the non petty day to day thugs type, where as in Mogadishu it's in quite worrisome volume(their all looking for the pay day of all pay days type of cons and mashruc or their already involved in it or looking to diversify it).
Mogadishu ain't much different to Nairobbery in Kenya, the only real difference is they do it in a more crafted way then blatantly in public like Nairobi thugs do on the street and it's usually far more then just the petty items, it's about that pay day of all pay days type of motives and setting up channels to clean it or inject it elsewhere into other crime driven enterprises as long as the growth is there. Nothing is off the table either.
Infact bro in Africa the moryan segment is very minimal and a concentrated class I mean the non petty day to day thugs type, where as in Mogadishu it's in quite worrisome volume(their all looking for the pay day of all pay days type of cons and mashruc or their already involved in it or looking to diversify it).
