HISTORY Unknown eras in Somali history

[Ugas.Wacays]

I doubt it, there is literally no written account of him controlling anything on the coast, maybe exerting influence on the trade routes, looting, etc..

This history is recognized by all somali historians, Aale boore controlled the coastal region of Djibouti and Awdal after the collapse of the Adal Sultanate.
Here a video of an Issaq historian mentioning it the story. Start at 4:50

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Yes, but how far have they reached inside Somali territory?

I think we focusing on the wrong areas, The north west was densely populated and a nexus point of trade and urbanism. Why don’t we look at the Hawd and Doollo, the modern day country of the Ogaden. We know little about the inhabitants of that country up until the 15th to 17th century.

a lot of the clans in that part of the Somali landmass have lore about the presence of Galla there, who were eventually exterminated through warfare.

 

[NidarNidar]

Also there is Jarahoroto Somalis now said they are King and Queen of Oromo
Somali oral history is embarrassing and makes us all feel as if we came yesterday by boat from the Arabian Peninsula And those who lived in our land were xabashi and Oromos

More likely pre-Islamic Somali king/queen, the Oromo didn't reach the SR until the 16th century, this is the problem when fucking cadaan racist take the word of a random Somali in the middle of nowhere, this is primarily why some of those Cadaan spies didn't like the Gadabuursi; we were hostile to them.

 

[NidarNidar]

This history is recognized by all somali historians, Aale boore controlled the coastal region of Djibouti and Awdal after the collapse of the Adal Sultanate.
Here a video of an Issaq historian mentioning it the story. Start at 4:50

Bro, I think this just just more myth than anything. Without any physical or written evidence, it's just oral history. The collapse of Adal was bad; besides raids deep, I can't see them settling that far into Somali territory.

 

[Ugas.Wacays]

Bro, I think this just just more myth than anything. Without any physical or written evidence, it's just oral history. The collapse of Adal was bad; besides raids deep, I can't see them settling that far into Somali territory.

Its not a myth its historically accurate and nothern Somalia coast has galla graves all over did they come from ?

 

[Guure⁸]

Its not a myth its historically accurate and nothern Somalia coast has galla graves all over did they come from ?

Maybe traders maybe scholars

 

[Shimbiris]

More likely pre-Islamic Somali king/queen, the Oromo didn't reach the SR until the 16th century, this is the problem when fucking cadaan racist take the word of a random Somali in the middle of nowhere, this is primarily why some of those Cadaan spies didn't like the Gadabuursi; we were hostile to them.

Ah, now I see why you are such a likeable fellow. Wuxu waa a Gallant Gadbuursi! A Savant Samaroon! Allahu Akbar! Mabrook! Much love for your lot. Awdalland hanoolaato!

 

[Midas]

Its not a myth its historically accurate and nothern Somalia coast has galla graves all over did they come from ?

There are no galla Graves. What the oral history is mostly likley remembering is the defeat of rival clans and then in oral memory they are propgandized as gallo or non-muslims. It was a common tactic amongst somalis to call your enemies disbelievers.

 

[Midas]

There are no galla Graves. What the oral history is mostly likley remembering is the defeat of rival clans and then in oral memory they are propgandized as gallo or non-muslims. It was a common tactic amongst somalis to call your enemies disbelievers.
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Its very likely that as whatever state authority existed in the 1600s collapsed power reverted to clans and they then began to fight over an increasingly drier territory.

 

[NidarNidar]

Its not a myth its historically accurate and nothern Somalia coast has galla graves all over did they come from ?

Let's agree to disagree.

Its very likely that as whatever state authority existed in the 1600s collapsed power reverted to clans and they then began to fight over an increasingly drier territory.

Yeah, the societal collapse was pretty significant, destroying the fragile trade to the interior, the loss of men in the wars and the eventual Oromo hordes caused famine, and those who couldn't get help from their fellow kin died out or moved further south.

Ah, now I see why you are such a likeable fellow. Wuxu waa a Gallant Gadbuursi! A Savant Samaroon! Allahu Akbar! Mabrook! Much love for your lot. Awdalland hanoolaato!

Much love, bruddah! we need to make plans to visit the Calmadow mountains in the future Inshallah, the views of the sky camel will be wonderous.

 

[The alchemist]

What do you think of the claim that all Somalis came from Sanaag About 800 years ago.
and all those graves? Someone once told me that the Sufis there were doing that so that people would come to visit it not all of it but some many are fake
Should we stop believing oral history and take it as bedtime stories and only take what science and genetics say?

Somalis come from the north in general, not only Sanaag. The clans, if you go past 800 years, are reorganizations of Somali relations and lineage dynasties with their rules of incorporation and sometimes instrumentalist creations.

There was no such thing as Sufis back then. People project what happened pretty recently in the late 19th century with earlier Islamic expression. It's unfounded. They conflate Muslim burial practices with some retained Cushitic traditions -- which are ancient -- with Sufi aspects.

We should not stop believing in oral tradition. It's valuable. We should be critical of it.

 

[Yabal]

There are unknown eras in Somali history. We know almost everything that happened in the last 300 years and the period of conflict with Axum, but there are two unknown periods. The first is the period of the emergence of modern tribes in the 12th century
According to oral history, names of regions and monuments
It is said that there were Abyssinians ruling the Somalis or other non-Muslim Somalis??!
Like yufle it's ha tuulo in sanaag They say it is the name of a Haishi king who was killed there
Also damal And he is, as they say, the tax collector of the King of Abyssinia or gaalo madow who was killed.
Here in badweyne it's in sool Where this happen And explains the story
Somali name and his wife speaks Somali It seems that they demolished an old mosque and found books in it.
The second part is the destruction of cities and who destroyed the cities
Who lived in these cities and who destroyed these cities? Currently Somalis say that those who destroyed the cities were not Somalis, and also those who lived in them were not Somalis. So who are they and where did they go?
This is maduun a city old in sanaag The old man was really cultured and dealt with the Erikologus, but he said they were not Somalis.
Also fardawasa A city that was on the site of the city of Sheikh. It is said that it had a great wall that was closed and opened, but a woman opened the wall by mistake, so an army came down from the mountain and destroyed it and killed everyone in it. Only two people survived and fled to Barbara.
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There soo many others With the same similar stories, a non-Muslim king was ruling and cities were destroyed.
But it is difficult to believe that the Abyssinians reached this far east, at a time when the conflict in HargayaView attachment 374530

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