Unacceptable and disgusting slander of a Hafidhul Quran and Qari from BLM Halimos

[Angelina]

It was investigated by a muslim organization and they compiled testimony from the alleged victims. It's dishonest to say this is based on "what some random degenerate on twitter said or what some kafir published on a website"

report: https://www.facetogether.org/investigations/fatih-seferagic

Even if he has issues with the manner of investigation which some brothers have voiced, it’s the hypocrisy I can’t get over and the way in which these brothers will defend each other.

A man that has been accused by 18 victims along with an investigation is believed to be innocent and if people question him they’re slandering

BUT……here is the kicker….

You can accuse a group of Kufr with 0 proof or even anyone coming forward to say they’ve seen blatant Kufr, no investigation and that is supposedly acceptable behavior.

There is 0 consistency. Clear to see this isn’t about proof or evidence because they have no issues accusing others of Kufr and other things if it fits into their agenda with even less evidence, no one coming forward or even any investigation.

 

[Man with a garuun]

It’s here:

https://www.facetogether.org/investigations/fatih-seferagic

What does this prove? Some website having some info on a young Muslim guy - charges that they can't take it to a law enforcement nor a city or state prosecutor - and you and others are running with it as if it is guilt verdict. This is so wrong on many levels.

He’s run away to Kuwait. Btw, people commit crime all the time and are not yet charged by the court of law.

He has every right to go to wherever he wants. But let us not forget Kuwait has an extradition treaty with US, and if there were any pending warrant against him, he would've been sent back to the USA to face those charges. But because there is none, he is chilling in Kuwait.

What proof do you have they’re liberal? You’re making accusations with proof? It’s actually a group affiliated with various Muslim charities who’ve done internal investigations. They’ve spoken to up 18 victims. What did these victims get out of it? Money, fame?

I looked at their modus operandi, and they claim to be targeting Muslim clergy who commit "abuses". I've also seen others who called them libetral. And their mean-spirited vigilante justice is very obvious.

Who are they to go after the Muslim clergy when they are not state-legislated agency whose job is to carry out this work? And you think your extreme vigilante justice is acceptable with people whose job is to protect the public?

Give us a break from your extremist feminist nonsense who can't see men are entitled to justice the same way women are. You and your fellow extremists are assassinating the character of an innocent man when you can't prove the false charges that have been levied against him. This is so wrong on so many levels.

The other sad part is, you act as holy and a woman who understands Islam when you're incapable of giving someone with the benefit of the doubt. Your world revolves around believing in any woman who bring charges against any man, even if the man is innocent. Sick.

 

[Man with a garuun]

Even if he has issues with the manner of investigation which some brothers have voiced, it’s the hypocrisy I can’t get over and the way in which these brothers will defend each other.

We would defend a Muslim sister the same way we would defend a Muslim brother. And what hypocrisy can anyone see when the guy was never charged nor prosecuted for these alleged "crimes"?

A man that has been accused by 18 victims along with an investigation is believed to be innocent and if people question him they’re slandering

Supposedly 18 people who can't prove their case to law-enforcement and to the courts. At this rate. you can claim thousand people and not only 18, and it wont mean anything if your bogus charges can't be proven.

BUT……here is the kicker….

You can accuse a group of Kufr with 0 proof or even anyone coming forward to say they’ve seen blatant Kufr, no investigation and that is supposedly acceptable behavior.

There is 0 consistency. Clear to see this isn’t about proof or evidence because they have no issues accusing others of Kufr and other things if it fits into their agenda with even less evidence, no one coming forward or even any investigation.

You can't accuse anyone without evidence whether they're Muslim or in the state of kufr. Plain and simple.

 

[Angelina]

We would defend a Muslim sister the same way we would defend a Muslim brother. And what hypocrisy can anyone see when the guy was never charged nor prosecuted for these alleged "crimes"?

Seriously and Allah is my witness if 18 people came and accused a sister of let’s say abusing or sexually assaulting a child, I would never in a million years defend her and say she is innocent. If there isn’t enough evidence I would wait, but no way would I be writing paragraphs upon paragraphs defending her when so many people have come forward and there is an actual investigation report out about her and the only reason why she isn’t in court is because she skipped the country! Come on!

Supposedly 18 people who can't prove their case to law-enforcement and to the courts. At this rate. you can claim thousand people and not only 18, and it wont mean anything if your bogus charges can't be proven.

It’s not about that they can’t prove their case. He is out of the country. Skipped town as they say.

Also, your use of the word ‘bogus’. Why and how do you know it’s bogus? You know damned well that men/women get away with atrocious things everyday.

When women are r-worded in war torn countries, they hardly ever get justice. There are witnesses, there are usually several victims but it never sees daylight court. Using that same logic are you doing to dismiss their claims because it wasn’t tried in court? No actual evidence

You can't accuse anyone without evidence whether they're Muslim or in the state of kufr. Plain and simple.

A bit hypocritical thought right? Re-read the bit in bold. Muslim brothers generally talk about the suffering of Muslim women in war torn countries and how these women are r-worded, yet these women never get justice because of lack of courts ect. So clearly, accusations do happen, but it’s selective isn’t it?

The face investigation has evidence. That is the point. The culprit has skipped town and that documentation is there to warn parents into no allowing their child near him.

if you don’t want to point fingers before things are official, fine. But the scary thing about the world that we live in, is that people rarely get justice and if you’re a parent or part of the community, you’re going to want to know what is up.

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[Angelina]

What does this prove? Some website having some info on a young Muslim guy - charges that they can't take it to a law enforcement nor a city or state prosecutor - and you and others are running with it as if it is guilt verdict. This is so wrong on many levels.



He has every right to go to wherever he wants. But let us not forget Kuwait has an extradition treaty with US, and if there were any pending warrant against him, he would've been sent back to the USA to face those charges. But because there is none, he is chilling in Kuwait.




I looked at their modus operandi, and they claim to be targeting Muslim clergy who commit "abuses". I've also seen others who called them libetral. And their mean-spirited vigilante justice is very obvious.

Who are they to go after the Muslim clergy when they are not state-legislated agency whose job is to carry out this work? And you think your extreme vigilante justice is acceptable with people whose job is to protect the public?

Give us a break from your extremist feminist nonsense who can't see men are entitled to justice the same way women are. You and your fellow extremists are assassinating the character of an innocent man when you can't prove the false charges that have been levied against him. This is so wrong on so many levels.

The other sad part is, you act as holy and a woman who understands Islam when you're incapable of giving someone with the benefit of the doubt. Your world revolves around believing in any woman who bring charges against any man, even if the man is innocent. Sick.

That is the scary part about your whole argument. You see it as male vs women rather than about the victims.

Wallahi and Allah is my witness. If there was a sister who literally had 18 people all come forward because she abuse their children, no way would I passionately defend her like you did. Why? Because in the world that we live in people routinely get away with deranged sickness and people are hardly every accused by that many people especially if their is no money or fame involved.

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

Wait.....What?


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Ewwww I despise with every fiber of my muscle and nerve and billions of neurons with 100 trillion connections in my brain. A somali kid saved someone the headline was a "black kid." BLM xalimo is not a myth but a true stereotype same with kpop xalimo.

 

[jacfar]

Co-founder of face Aman Ali



"I used to be afraid to support gay rights. […] Thankfully that was over 10 years ago, and I’m much older, wiser and balder (sigh). And throughout my travels I’ve had conversations with hundreds, maybe even thousands, of people around the world who identify as LGBTQ. And I use the word “people who identify as” because they’re people first and foremost – something we often forget about when we get into childish arguments.

I stand in steadfast support with the LGBTQ community – whether you are Muslim, non-Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, whatever your spirituality is. Life is too short to have anger and hate towards people simply because of who you are."

 

[Al Muslim]

It was investigated by a muslim organization and they compiled testimony from the alleged victims. It's dishonest to say this is based on "what some random degenerate on twitter said or what some kafir published on a website"

report: https://www.facetogether.org/investigations/fatih-seferagic

Most of the women on that site are not wearing hijab, meaning they are as mentioned in the ayah which I linked, fasiqaat.

Also, I took a look at the board members of this organisation and look what I found.

This woman not only doesn't wear hijab, but she campaigned for a taghut kafir who kills Muslims all across the world and Somalia in particular. Have some shame and repent for slandering this man of good character before it is too late.

 

[Arma]

This was the same xalimo that attacked the innocent somali cab driver ader, that was falsely accused of kidnap by a horse tail wearing Nigerian woman.....and she's the same girl that was going off on poppies.

Waa typical BLM activist

 

[Arma]

Also, surely is this guy was/is an abuser/pedo, surely the old bill would be onto him? I haven't seen him under any police investigation or has he been arrested.

Seems like in this *Metoo* and *belive all women* era....you're guilty of anything that reer twitter say about you.

 

[AMusee]

FACE and Alia Salem: The Pro-LGBT Deviants Who Hunt Imams​

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
والصلاة والسلام على رسوله الكريم
قال الله تعالى لا يحب الله الجهر بالسوء من القول إلا من ظلم وكان الله سميعا عليما
وبعد

We live in bizarre times where the biggest deviant fussaq have appointed themselves as the morality police for the Muslim community. It would be laughable if it weren’t so dangerous.

We have operatives in the Muslim community who stand for virtually every single fahisha and dhulm — e.g., zina, LGBT, sex-change operations, removal of hijab, collaboration with Zionists and anti-Muslim governmental agencies, etc. — while also claiming to be protectors and guardians of the Muslim community.

This is the Imam Hunting Network.

MuslimSkeptic has covered different parts of this network over the past 3 years. You can read those reports here:

The Curious Case of the MeToo Mufti: Abdullah Nana

Ingrid Mattson, HEART, and the Pro-LGBT “Muslim” Network Distorting Islam

Sneak Attack: How HEART Women and Girls Preys on the Muslim Community

“Muslim” Group Celebrates Masturbation Day, “Muslim” Chaplain Celebrates LGBT

In some of these reports, we discuss FACE: Facing Abuse in Community Environments. But, we have yet to compile a report dedicated to FACE alone. This report serves this purpose.

The contents of the report are as follows:

Report Contents​

1 What Are the Islamic Guidelines Regarding Accusations of Sexual Misconduct?

1.1 Believe All Women?

1.2 Spreading Accusations of Sexual Misconduct

1.3 The “Where There’s Smoke, There’s Fire” Bias

2 The Seedy Origins of FACE

3 Alia Salem: The Boss of FACE

4 Alia Salem’s Lowly Pro-LGBT Minions

4.1 Aman Ali

4.2 Sara Bawany

4.3 Omar Suleiman

4.4 Huma Yasin

4.5 Ramon Mejia

4.6 Other Notable FACE Associates

5 FACE Creates Chaos By Recklessly Spreading False Hearsay

6 Deconstructing a Typical FACE Report

7 Nouman Ali Khan Slams FACE

8 FACE Admits They Are “Not Religious”

9 FACE Partners

10 FACE: Little More Than Ex-Wife Advocacy

11 Conclusion



Here is the link to the full article:

https://muslimskeptic.com/2021/08/31/face-and-alia-salem-the-pro-lgbt-deviants-who-hunt-imams/

These are deviants and hardly can be considered Muslim groups backed by Western Governments and Zionists to smear and attack notable Muslims.

 

[Angelina]

Even if he has issues with the manner of investigation which some brothers have voiced, it’s the hypocrisy I can’t get over and the way in which these brothers will defend each other.

A man that has been accused by 18 victims along with an investigation is believed to be innocent and if people question him they’re slandering

BUT……here is the kicker….

You can accuse a group of Kufr with 0 proof or even anyone coming forward to say they’ve seen blatant Kufr, no investigation and that is supposedly acceptable behavior.

There is 0 consistency. Clear to see this isn’t about proof or evidence because they have no issues accusing others of Kufr and other things if it fits into their agenda with even less evidence, no one coming forward or even any investigation.

@AMusee

I don't mind you downvoting my other posts, but I'm going to question you on this one.

Is it okay to call people kufr with 0 proof? If it isn't why downvote this? Surely this is merely about not accusing people without solid proof?

Also, your hypocrisy is clear to see. With regards to the digital sisters, i clearly remember you posting tweets in which accounts accused the sisters of being Zaanis and the hosts with the most terrible of insults and accusations.


Whilst you cry about feminism, your hypocrisy is clear to see. You will agree/post slander against actual innocent sisters but will defend a brother with 18 accusations. If you want to say, hey I don't see FACE as a legitimate body, then fair enough, but don't be a hypocrite.


Why are you not consistent with your principles? Male vs female and redpill has turned you into an individual with 0 priniciples.

 

[World]

@AMusee

I don't mind you downvoting my other posts, but I'm going to question you on this one.

Is it okay to call people kufr with 0 proof? If it isn't why downvote this?

Also, your hypocrisy is clear to see. With regards to the digital sisters, i clearly remember you posting tweets in which accounts accused the sisters of Zaanis and the hosts with the most terrible of insults and accusations.


Whilst you cry about feminism, your hypocrisy is clear to see. You will agree/post slander against actual innocent sisters but will defend a brother with 18 accusations.


Why are you not consistent with your principles? Male vs female and redpill has turned you into an individual with 0 priniciples.

the same guys defending this guy with 18 accusations were the same ones defending that so called sheikh who manipulated and committed zina with that somali girl in paris even after she posted hotel videos with him as proof they probably still defend him even though all the sheikhs and mosques he was associated with apologised and forced him to delete all social media

 

[AMusee]

@AMusee

I don't mind you downvoting my other posts, but I'm going to question you on this one.

Is it okay to call people kufr with 0 proof? If it isn't why downvote this? Surely this is merely about not accusing people without solid proof?

Also, your hypocrisy is clear to see. With regards to the digital sisters, i clearly remember you posting tweets in which accounts accused the sisters of being Zaanis and the hosts with the most terrible of insults and accusations.


Whilst you cry about feminism, your hypocrisy is clear to see. You will agree/post slander against actual innocent sisters but will defend a brother with 18 accusations. If you want to say, hey I don't see FACE as a legitimate body, then fair enough, but don't be a hypocrite.


Why are you not consistent with your principles? Male vs female and redpill has turned you into an individual with 0 priniciples.

I have posted an article about why FACE accusations are to be dismissed, it is not only not legitimate but it is backed by hostile groups targeting notable Muslims.

Please share here any post where I called or even shared any content calling the digital sisterhood Zaanis or any other such accusation or insults as you've just mentioned.

 

[Angelina]

the same guys defending this guy with 18 accusations were the same ones defending that so called sheikh who manipulated and committed zina with that somali girl in paris even after she posted hotel videos with him as proof they probably still defend him even though all the sheikhs and mosques he was associated with apologised and forced him to delete all social media

My real issue is how gendered the 'slander' point is. They will agree and retweet a post literally slandering a sister for no reason but will then remember about the slander rule in the Sharia when it comes to a man in the public eye who has a dodgy rep due to the many allegations.


Wallahi @AMusee i wouldn't have @ you as you're free to have your opinions. You might not see FACE as credible but its the lack of consistency and the clear hypocrisy that is making your stance look like a boys club, rather than actual priniciples which made me want to question you.

 

[AMusee]

My real issue is how gendered the 'slander' point is. They will agree and retweet a post literally slandering a sister for no reason but will then remember about the slander rule in the Sharia when it comes to a man in the public eye who has a dodgy rep due to the many allegations.


Wallahi @AMusee i wouldn't have @ you as you're free to have your opinions. You might not see FACE as credible but its the lack of consistency and the clear hypocrisy that is making your stance look like a boys club, rather than actual priniciples which made me want to question you.

You are accusing me of hypocrisy and slander while you've just accused me of calling the digital sisterhood zaanis and other supposed insults. It is ironic to say the least.

I am still waiting for you to substantiate those claims.

 

[Angelina]

I have posted an article about why FACE accusations are to be dismissed, it is not only not legitimate but it is backed by hostile groups targeting notable Muslims.

Alright, i'll look into it. Can you post it please.

Please share here any post where I called or even shared any content calling the digital sisterhood Zaanis or any other such accusation or insults as you've just mentioned.

I specifically said, shared content. I know you never blantantly slandered anyone.

I even mentioned on that thread that it was terrible how brothers were sharing that guys thread. I think slandering sisters and accusing them of being Zaanis or encouraging it has become so normalised that hardly any brothers spoke up and said hey, this is slander and just continued sharing his opinion without even taking the time to think.

 

[AMusee]

Alright, i'll look into it. Can you post it please.

I specifically said, shared content. I know you never blantantly slandered anyone.

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I even mentioned on that thread that it was terrible how brothers were sharing that guys thread. I think slandering sisters and accusing them of being Zaanis or encouraging it has become so normalised that hardly any brothers spoke up and said hey, this is slander and just continued sharing his opinion without even taking the time to think.

I never shared that tweet so your entire post to me earlier was based off of a tweet I did not share? You were accusing me of clear hypocrisy and sharing slanderous tweets about innocent sisters and you seem to have come up with no examples.

The irony here is you've clearly demonstrated yourself all you were just baselessly accusing me of. You speak of redpill and bias but you fail to see how you embody bias and gender wars in many of your posts.

Here is the article about FACE :https://muslimskeptic.com/2021/08/31/face-and-alia-salem-the-pro-lgbt-deviants-who-hunt-imams/

 

[Basra]

Ewwww I despise with every fiber of my muscle and nerve and billions of neurons with 100 trillion connections in my brain. A somali kid saved someone the headline was a "black kid." BLM xalimo is not a myth but a true stereotype same with kpop xalimo.

 

[Angelina]

I never shared that tweet so your entire post to me earlier was based off of a tweet I did not share? You were accusing me of clear hypocrisy and sharing slanderous tweets about innocent sisters and you seem to have come up with no examples.

Yes, you did ? Where do you think I found it? I literally had to go back and go on the thread to find the link and then I took a screenshot.

I even accused you on the other thread for it.

The irony here is you've clearly demonstrated yourself all you were just baselessly accusing me of. You speak of redpill and bias but you fail to see how you embody bias and gender wars in many of your posts.

Never baselessly accused you. If I wanted to accuse you I would have said you said xyz which I didn’t because one thing I am is that I’m careful with my words

Here is the article about FACE: https://muslimskeptic.com/2021/08/3...-pro-lgbt-deviants-who-hunt-imams/#conclusion

Can you send me another article that isn’t written by that Daniel man. He seems to argue with Scholars and Islamic speakers despite not being as knowledgeable as them.