Ukraine in two pictures

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Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
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“But….. but… but ….the US is the aggressor wallah”

“China is going to back Russia against the US”

:mjlol:
 

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Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
VIP
The US is in the other side of the world. :westbrookwtf:
Let Russia take over this langhaab country Ukraine & call it a day , I don't want no old white man with dementia push the red button for world war 3 for something that's not of his/our concern !:damn:

The US ain’t doing shit over Ukraine, neither will the rest of Europe. People like claiming WW3 is going to happen to suit their agendas.

If Putin seriously takes Ukraine then he’s boxed in 100%. If he tries moving further, it will be a NATO country and the US will be forced to go to war.

What might happen is that they’ll let Putin annex the Russian separatist areas, recognise it and let Ukraine join NATO. This will effectively draw a line in the sand meaning that Putin cannot move any further without war.
 
The biggest mistake that bush senior and Clinton did was to allow Russia a free reign. They should have bounced on the opportunity after the ussr fall and installed a friendly puppet like Yeltsin . Instead bush junior allowed Putin rule even calling him good man. Oh well :manny:
 

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reer baadiyo
US to Ukraine: You go fight Russia to the last drop of blood. Go, go, go right now.

Ukraine to US: But where are you? you said you would be by my side. Where are you now?

US to Ukraine: I have retreated somewhere safe together with my British attack dog. We will keep our propaganda barrages going at full volume. The world has to be told how evil Putin is and why he needs to be deterred.

Ukraine to US: Are you kidding? You want me to fight Russia alone? I really don’t see any invasion coming soon, so why should I go and get killed?

US to Ukraine: You will do as you are told. We know what is good for you. Now get ready for action. The SUN, BBC, NYT, CNN, ABC, and all the alphabet-media have announced the date and time. Play your assigned role in this epic drama. Action, action, ready.

Ukraine to US: Let me think this through.

US to Ukraine: If you don’t play your part we will find some other actor. But the action must start. Putin cannot be allowed to ….. etc., etc.
 
The US is in the other side of the world. :westbrookwtf:
Let Russia take over this langhaab country Ukraine & call it a day , I don't want no old white man with dementia push the red button for world war 3 for something that's not of his/our concern !:damn:
I’m saying…
 

Juke

Asagu/Asaga
VIP
The US is an aggressor power, I’m never going to argue that it isn’t.

But it has no intention of forcing Ukraine into NATO, Ukraine wants to join NATO.
Kinda silly to consider post-2014 Ukraine to be an independent state not under the west/America's thumb
 

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Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
VIP
Kinda silly to consider post-2014 Ukraine to be an independent state not under the west/America's thumb

It is an independent state that regularly holds free and fair elections.

The fact of the matter is that the majority of Ukrainians support their current government regardless of what you say about their sovereignty.
 

tyrannicalmanager

pseudo-intellectual
The US is an aggressor power, I’m never going to argue that it isn’t.

But it has no intention of forcing Ukraine into NATO, Ukraine wants to join NATO.
It is an independent state that regularly holds free and fair elections.

The fact of the matter is that the majority of Ukrainians support their current government regardless of what you say about their sovereignty.
I don't care about democracy.
 

Juke

Asagu/Asaga
VIP
Joining the EU/west is the better option than be under Putin like Belarus. They get to develop their economy.
I agree, I'm pro-west, lakiin let's not ignore certain western intelligence agencies aided to overthrow a democratically elected leader that was pro-Russia to bring in another that is pro-west/EU/NATO
 

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Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
VIP
I agree, I'm pro-west, lakiin let's not ignore certain western intelligence agencies aided to overthrow a democratically elected leader that was pro-Russia to bring in another that is pro-west/EU/NATO

Opinion polls were against that politician for ages and he deliberately antagonised the population.

The West funded the protests but the protests started organically.

Also that specific leader you mention was pro-Russia and pro-NATO.
 

Juke

Asagu/Asaga
VIP
Opinion polls were against that politician for ages and he deliberately antagonised the population.
Zelensky's non-approval rating has been >50% since Jun 2021 lol

Also that specific leader you mention was pro-Russia and pro-NATO.
Yanukovych held a neutral stance on NATO and the Russian bloc from 2010 to 2014, he flirted with both sides ofc but officially maintained a neutral stance.
 

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Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
VIP
Zelensky's non-approval rating has been >50% since Jun 2021 lol


Yanukovych held a neutral stance on NATO and the Russian bloc from 2010 to 2014, he flirted with both sides ofc but officially maintained a neutral stance.

1. Even if Zelensky’s non-approval rate has been high, the rate of Ukrainians wanting to join NATO has risen.

2. Yanukovic stated that he was pro-NATO cooperation but not pro joining NATO as it wasn’t popular at the time, which was true.

He was also friends with Russia, which shows even the pro-Russians at the time would’ve joined NATO if it were popular.
 

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Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
VIP
I agree, I'm pro-west, lakiin let's not ignore certain western intelligence agencies aided to overthrow a democratically elected leader that was pro-Russia to bring in another that is pro-west/EU/NATO

A democratically elected leader that was described as the head of corruption globally by Transparency International (primary corruption watchdog).

Same leader that killed protests and illegally arrested former politicians to settle scores.

Furthermore, the former president of Ukraine got himself ousted when he decided to start killing the peaceful protestors.
 

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