Uk somalis are improving

[GemState]

A refugee Somali with illiterate parents comes to UK, learns English and currently does better in GCSEs than the average cadaan. Kind of crazy how retarded the average Briton is

 

[NordicSomali]

A refugee Somali with illiterate parents comes to UK, learns English and currently does better in GCSEs than the average cadaan. Kind of crazy how retarded the average Briton is

thats a common story, they dont take anything for granted and thats why they work harder,

 

[Sophisticate]

Honestly, Somali early modern elites were pretty impressive forward thinkers when you compare them to a very similar neighboring culture in Arabia. Our elites were running around dreaming of unified states, our own writing systems, adopting ideas like democracy and forming political parties while Khaleejis were still very firmly living in the Middle Ages.

Agreed. I have also noticed most of those self-hating ranting come from individuals fuelled by ignorance and low-self esteem who lack any historical reference points. It is safe to assume they are ajnabi if not a disgruntled Somali with unusally paper thin dignity.

 

[Periplus]

Agreed. I have also noticed most of those self-hating ranting come from individuals fuelled by ignorance and low-self esteem who lack any historical reference points. It is safe to assume they are ajnabi if not a disgruntled Somali with unusally paper thin dignity.

Somalia had an educated class in the 1960s that could have propelled us to a regional power.

But the stupidity (or ignorance) of the majority held us back.

It has been an ongoing battle since 1969 and the educated have been losing.

Look today, on nearly every social issue back home, be it tribalism, Somali-minority relations or gender equality, the educated are losing.

 

[El Nino]

Alhamdulillah we are improving, not just the uk but everywhere, you can see it especially in younger generations. We came as refugees and InshAllah we will establish ourselves as upper middle class people.

In order to obtain this we should exclusively focus on lucrative careers. Sorry political folks but the money comes first. The next gen can worry about gender studies and the political climate of Rome circa 100.

 

[Dualke]

Somalia had an educated class in the 1960s that could have propelled us to a regional power.

Could you expand on this?

 

[Kratos]

Really not surprised, most Somali kids I went to school with performed at least above average. Where I live the government doesn't collect these types of statistics (afaik) but I always suspected that the poor statistics coming from the UK were mainly due to Somalis arriving from Somalia struggling to adapt to the education system and learning the language.

 

[Kratos]

Seeing Somalis who were born and raised here flunk out of high school or do "bottom" classes is uncommon

 

[Dualke]

Nationhood is a largely new construct in Somalia. Somalis identified more with their tribe than a newly constructed national identity. Tribes governed themselves or were governed by local tribal Xeer (Law). The concept of being ruled or lorded over was next to unheard of. Though some clans had their own Ugaas, Sultan, Boqor or Garad, for the most part rule was egalitarian. Its hard to manage those who are sovereign and do not easily take dictums from others. They are not obedient and hierarchies (beyond them being on top) are a foreign abstraction to them.

Yes, the inability of unification amongst the Somali people has inhibited its ability to modernize under a current day nation state, that does not address what I said.

My father's uncle was a scientist that graduated from the University of Chicago with an Advanced Degree in the STEMs in the 50s. He worked in Somalia despite being educated in Ethiopia. Why? Because there were no universities and few if any high schools in Somalia proper at the time. He also helped thwart a TB epidemic plaguing Mogadishu while serving in the government.

Good for him, that is honestly an impressive feat

I realize some individuals lack examples to model themselves after (through no fault of their own) but there are no excuses to be self-loathing. Also since you do not have to contend with nepotism or limited opportunities like individuals would back home then you owe it to yourself to do what is denied of others (in the Global South) and strive.

This only goes to serve as a deflection for any valid criticism. My personal qualities has nothing to do with the shortcomings of Somalia's government.

 

[Magan95]

There really are some cracker infiltrators in this chat. Good for UK Somali folks. Most people I know are getting professional degrees or starting businesses. We need to propagate more positive news like this because we have lots of haters.

 

[ImanStan001]

You could clearly see they're improving year after year, constantly hearing white supremacist's say we're low iq and can't learn. But the main reason behind the our failures previously was that most didn't understand English. I remember kids who came straight from somali who didn't understand a word of English being forced to sit gcse's. We'll pass the national average in a couple of years. Look at key stage 1 performances

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I remember doing sociology at school and it was common for some people of immigrant backgrounds to do better than the nation average