Turkey has started Sirte and Al Jufra offensive to capture the Libyan oil fields

Idk if France has the balls to stand against turkey or use its military. Egypt im 50/50 and Russias presence in Libya is from the Wagner military contractors if I’m correct with numbers maybe 2k~ not so large. As i read in another thread I wouldn’t be surprised if it was pre mediated and that Libya will be split into two west and east. Or some agreement will be had with the GNA under the influence of turkey and haftar with Saudi Arabia/UAE and Russia but the country still whole.

I know that turkey would like to extend its maritime borders to drill for hydrocarbons in the Mediterranean and northern Cyprus and I’m not sure how far erdogan will go as Greece is not really on board with that as well as Egypt too and maybe possibly Israel.

This benefits turkey because then I think they’d be able to export oil and gas to Europe without relying on Russia so Russia probably has that in the back of their minds too
 
The EU wouldn’t be reliant on Russian exports on oil and gas but turkey is also volatile using the refugees as a bargaining chip against the EU. As you said before also USA probably doesn’t prefer Russia to gain influence and extend its strength as one of its foreign policies
 

AbdiGeedi

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Look elsewhere other than Turkish sources. It’s funny if you think they’d give legit death tolls knowing the outcry the public will have when its established 70+ of them got killed for nothing but he’s little neo ottoman games
Those are not from only Turkish sources. Two battalion assessment came from the US general. Large Hezbollah losses were reported by Israelis. I came to a number by assessing the social media. There was a recording of Hezbollah fighter telling that in just one day they lost over 200 fighters in the hands of the Turks. And the offensive continued for days.
 
Those are not from only Turkish sources. Two battalion assessment came from the US general. Large Hezbollah losses were reported by Israelis. I came to a number by assessing the social media. There was a recording of Hezbollah fighter telling that in just one day they lost over 200 fighters in the hands of the Turks. And the offensive continued for days.
true not Turkish indeed, however the US has an agenda which is anti Assad as well as Israel.
 

AbdiGeedi

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Yes of course the drone strike happened, but for the sake of discussion I’m just saying that in this conflict there are sides when it comes to details on the ground so it’s good to try and source information and synthesise them together to try and get a better understanding :)
You word-masturbate too much.
 
You word-masturbate too much.
But it’s true though. All your sources are anti Assad with an agenda. There’s even sources close to the Turkish government saying 70+ died. Most of your posts are pro Turkish too. You yourself have an agenda and are not willing to really listen. Nice ad hominem tho
 
Here’s what happened in February for the viewers who want to see, and daddy erdogan asked Russia for a ceasefire
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AbdiGeedi

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Idk if France has the balls to stand against turkey or use its military. Egypt im 50/50 and Russias presence in Libya is from the Wagner military contractors if I’m correct with numbers maybe 2k~ not so large. As i read in another thread I wouldn’t be surprised if it was pre mediated and that Libya will be split into two west and east. Or some agreement will be had with the GNA under the influence of turkey and haftar with Saudi Arabia/UAE and Russia but the country still whole.

I know that turkey would like to extend its maritime borders to drill for hydrocarbons in the Mediterranean and northern Cyprus and I’m not sure how far erdogan will go as Greece is not really on board with that as well as Egypt too and maybe possibly Israel.

This benefits turkey because then I think they’d be able to export oil and gas to Europe without relying on Russia so Russia probably has that in the back of their minds too
In reality El Sisi favors the Turkish East Med remapping as Egypt stands to gain a big chunk of the sea for its EEZ from the Turkish moves. It is of a size of Serbia. Imagine that.

Athens got cold reception when it came to Cairo to ask to sign a maritime borders agreement as it did before with Italy. Egyptian media was warning against signing it and Egypt indeed refused.

Yes I believe Erdogan said that after Turkey secured the oil crescent for the GNA, it will allow the both West and East Libya to negotiate a settlement. Turkey refuses Haftar's participation. The US is against partitioning of Libya as it means the East will be in the hands of Russia. The shit is complicated.

Wagner group is just a facade for the Russian army. No mercenary group in the world has top jet fighter planes, air defense systems, heavy artillery.
 

AbdiGeedi

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But it’s true though. All your sources are anti Assad with an agenda. There’s even sources close to the Turkish government saying 70+ died. Most of your posts are pro Turkish too. You yourself have an agenda and are not willing to really listen. Nice ad hominem tho
 

AbdiGeedi

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Here’s what happened in February for the viewers who want to see, and daddy erdogan asked Russia for a ceasefire View attachment 133029
Yes, some of the territory was lost, especially the loss of the town of Saraqib was not good. The Turks got caught in a surprise attack by the Russian and regime forces because the area was held under the agreement. It took the Turks a while to get their bearings together. They ended up pouring in thousands of troops. Their drones did the most damage. Russia thought it could quickly overwhelm the unsuspecting Turks.
 
what are ur thoughts on erdogan and turkey in general
Like what we said in the Machiavellian thread before, when it comes to politics it’s to further the gains of the nation regardless of morality to a degree.

You guys take care, I’m gonna head to bed, stay safe fellas
 

AbdiGeedi

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The Egyptian moves are creating counter waves in MENA. Algeria is warning against militarization of Libyan tribes. And it looks like El-Sisi is already backtracking. In the 20th century Egypt never dared to poke its nose in Libya as Algeria has always been against it and could deliver a punch. It is a repeat of the old affairs. Who knew Erdogan had such an ally? Algeria and Tunisia are lining up with Turkey against the strong pressure from France and the UAE. Wow the shit is unfolding strangely.

The Qatari defense minister is in Ankara at this very moment.


 
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