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Social programs and socialism are not one in the same, social programs are meant to provide safety nets within a capitalist framework where as socialism is about redistribution of wealth and involves some level of state/public ownership of means and production.

Islam has socialist elements/principles so yeah. You are mentioning socialism as if it's some devious religion or cult lol

Although America has social programs it's not mixed economy because it leans more heavily on market-based solutions and private enterprise, with a more limited role for the government in redistributing wealth and providing social services.

America does not most of this nation wide:


And the state does not fully own some key sectors of the economy unlike most other advanced economies, safe for postal services.
Socialism was created by the evil Karl Marx the zionist Jew. It has destroyed nations. This man was a philosophist, he was never an economist. Socialism has never been fully been implemented. Also he said that atheism is the foundation of socialism. Socialism is evil and more disgusting than whatever dystopian late stage capitalism that exists.
 
Socialism was created by the evil Karl Marx the zionist Jew. It has destroyed nations. This man was a philosophist, he was never an economist. Socialism has never been fully been implemented. Also he said that atheism is the foundation of socialism. Socialism is evil and more disgusting than whatever dystopian late stage capitalism that exists.

Karl Marx was not a Zionist, also he did not believe in or practice Judaism, nor did he associate with the Jewish community. He was a jew ethnically. He was an economist and yes he was a philospher among other things.

His life's work and focus was more on class struggle and equity.

Most advanced economies in the world implement a blend of socialism with capitalism. In countries you see fully unfiltered capitalism being practiced like in India for example you have smaller middle class and big class of poor people where the wealth and opportunities is concentrated in the hands of a few at the top.
 
Karl Marx was not a Zionist, also he did not believe in or practice Judaism, nor did he associate with the Jewish community. He was a jew ethnically. He was an economist and yes he was a philospher among other things.

His life's work and focus was more on class struggle and equity.

Most advanced economies in the world implement a blend of socialism with capitalism. In countries you see fully unfiltered capitalism being practiced like in India for example you have smaller middle class and big class of poor people where the wealth and opportunities is concentrated in the hands of a few at the top.
Miss me with the socialism bullshit. Karl Marx was an atheist and he hated religion. Socialism is haram. Wallahi it is. Please us Somalis are muslims. We dont subscribe to these isms. Do not promote it here. You are dangerous person. Not only are you apologetic to Ethiopian migrants in our land that the locals do not want, but you are also promoting socialism. Its haram. Us muslims do not subscribe to isms, wether thats liberalism(economic liberalism), capitalism, communism. We as muslims follow Islam, and base all of it on that.

From the ideologies of disbelief that contradict the authentic Creed and oppose what the messengers came with is:

What the atheists of this era believe in, such as the followers of Marx, Lenin and others who call to atheism and disbelief, regardless of whether they call that socialism, communism, ba’athism or any other name, for indeed from the base principles of these atheists is the belief that there is no god and that life is only (based on) matter. And from their principles is to reject the Day of Final Return, Paradise, Hellfire, and to disbelieve in all of the religions. Whoever examines their books and studies what beliefs they were upon will come to know that with full certainty. No doubt this belief is in contradiction to all of the heavenly revealed religions and leads its followers to the worst of fates in this world and the Hereafter.

Source: The Correct Belief and what Opposes It – Imaam ibn Baaz [eBook]


Turn back to Allah. Please this is disbelief. Socialism is disbelief. We muslims have our own economic model. We have 1400 years of statecraft.

Under the Umayyad the caliph eradicated poverty.

And never ever say Islam has elements of socialism. Why cant you say socialism has elements of Islam? Are you putting socialism and the thought of madman above the deen?
 
Miss me with the socialism bullshit. Karl Marx was an atheist and he hated religion. Socialism is haram. Wallahi it is. Please us Somalis are muslims. We dont subscribe to these isms. Do not promote it here. You are dangerous person. Not only are you apologetic to Ethiopian migrants in our land that the locals do not want, but you are also promoting socialism. Its haram. Us muslims do not subscribe to isms, wether thats liberalism(economic liberalism), capitalism, communism. We as muslims follow Islam, and base all of it on that.

From the ideologies of disbelief that contradict the authentic Creed and oppose what the messengers came with is:

What the atheists of this era believe in, such as the followers of Marx, Lenin and others who call to atheism and disbelief, regardless of whether they call that socialism, communism, ba’athism or any other name, for indeed from the base principles of these atheists is the belief that there is no god and that life is only (based on) matter. And from their principles is to reject the Day of Final Return, Paradise, Hellfire, and to disbelieve in all of the religions. Whoever examines their books and studies what beliefs they were upon will come to know that with full certainty. No doubt this belief is in contradiction to all of the heavenly revealed religions and leads its followers to the worst of fates in this world and the Hereafter.

Source: The Correct Belief and what Opposes It – Imaam ibn Baaz [eBook]


Turn back to Allah. Please this is disbelief. Socialism is disbelief. We muslims have our own economic model. We have 1400 years of statecraft.

Under the Umayyad the caliph eradicated poverty.

And never ever say Islam has elements of socialism. Why cant you say socialism has elements of Islam? Are you putting socialism and the thought of madman above the deen?

First it was Karl Marx is a jew or a zionist, now he is an athiest who hates religion, jobless troll as ever. Acting contrarian for the sake of it spamming long walls of irrelevant gibberish.

Socialism is not religion at all, it just a term to describe an economic function or practice. All it is collective control of the means of production, distribution, and exchange with the aim of reducing economic inequality. Simple as that .

Muslims countries practice socialism as well and Muslims have been doing for centuries. Even the Umayyad , its in Islamic law such as Zakat, Waqf, Prohibition of Riba, Infaq and Sadaqah , Prohibition of Hoarding Wealth all aligns with socialist ideals. The Muslim states obligation to ensure its citizens basic needs are met such as food, shelter, and security, akin to the role of a welfare state in socialist systems

The Quran and Hadith advocate for the fair treatment of workers, just wages, and the avoidance of excessive wealth accumulation at the expense of others .The emphasis on justice and equity reflects socialist concerns about the concentration of wealth and power.

You can save me the random pro capitalist links you find disparaging socialism without understanding what is and mentioning Karl Marx as if he is some prophet inventor of a religion. He just an intellectual with his own ideas, he didn't create socialism, he was a critic of capitalism and anyone is free to disagree with him. I don't agree with him on everything.

Also i am neither wholly anti-capitalist or anti-socialist , or heavily pro anything. . I believe in blend of the two economic functions because that is what works best in practice.
A mixed socialist- capitalist economy. Taking the best aspects of both systems is the answer.

Capitalism for economic growth, entrepreneurship/innovations, free trade and socialism for redistribution of wealth, public services, and regulation.

Somalia during the Kacaan in the 1970s was trending in that direction much like the Nordic country's who all aspired to be socialists in the 1960-70s and developed into mixed socialist-capitalist country's in the end.
 
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