Truck bomb passes multiple checkpoints

[Farjano-Walad]

Liyuu could probably make a ton of money by setting up a private security service in the rest of Somalia.

Most the geeljire "private security" groups in business atm are likely to work with AS or Rob you halfway today.

Whole towns would probably be happy to pay for a high level security force like Liyuu to keep the order.

Would mean safer environment to invest in and hence more jobs.

An indirect tax (i.e. special exclusive import rights, tax credit market etc) of $10 per head per month could secure a decent sized town and indirectly create tens of thousands of jobs.

Peace in Somalia is there if you want to pay for it.

BN: i will get back to you on the economics thread, apologies , i have not forgotten sxb, i am actually thinking of just recording a video for you then pasting it with all the answers and go back and forth and answer all your questions with a video, but i have to create an email since i dont want to reveal my current your tube username, i have a very famous surname which all Og will recognise and most somalis in fact, so bare with me saxib insha Allah

i dont want them running private security, keep in mind OG is keeping 100 million raw meat eaters at bay, they have never ever touched a drop of our oil or gas despite sending in miners since the 1950s, OG has always stood against it,

also 10$ per head is really not cheap, many family can barely afford to eat, orphans, it will be a burden for many since jobs are not plenty,

i just want to wipe out alshabab, but i cannot allow liyu to do it for "free" nor do i want money each month, i want power, and since we will sacrifice OG blood, we might as well demand the presidency in return,


mark my word, somalia will never ever rest or get peace until OG gets referendum with gun or pen in DDS and then focuses on somalia,

siad barre was only strong as long as OG generals supported him and he lost power as soon as he fought with OG over kismayo in the late 80s,


yuo also need a clan who will implement very strong federalism with regional leaders able to veto xamar FGS, and a clan with very strong army, MJ is very pro federal but in truth Mj cannot fight hawiye and marehan and moryaans, they dont have the man power, there is already 70,000 geeljires keeping 100 million raw meat eaters at bay, Mj will not be able to stomach losses like OG can, OG knows how to persevere in hardship and war, they have been doing it foe centuries, defending somali borders and single handedly expanded somali lands force centuries, its in their blood to fight, and dominate an enemy, harti is too nice, the prefer diplomacy over war, harti is not ruthless enough, you need a killer and a federalism support but also one with daqan

only issue might be OG will alarm Ethiopia, OG will 100% use the somali state to build an army and march to adis, did you know for years ethiopia will always demand from somali presidents not to make OG the prime minister? or even give them powerful ministers in FGS, gabre would make sure, they always feared OG will use the somali state, rebuild it and take the new forces to march into somalia, and OG will do it, trust me,

to get into jubaland, ethiopia did everything to stop OG, but OG kenyan ministers like former defence minister uncle Yusuf hajji used every trick and clout, called on the US, UK, EU, Ethiopia cried, but OG kenyans out did them in the end where ethiopia was forced to accept reality,



certain central somali clans dont want peace, they make money or their moryaan do from chaos and wars and we know amisom sells weapons to the shaytans,

who are the most hardcore pro somalis today in the world? ONLf, imagine if they won next year, and sent 100 K men, i am sure somalis would cry we are being invaded and deep down would fear, but its in our interest to get a strong somalia to free DDS,

would ONLF ever allow ethiopia to take ports, i even doubt if amisom would be allowed to stay longer than 2 months, onlf would demand they leave, they would secure xamar anyways, but we would also create many enemies who dont want peace in somalia, just being realistic,

also OG doesn't know hawiye, what clan is which, to them they will group them together and just wipe them out with no hesitation,


like it or not people, we need one powerful clan to save somalia, also OG is a very closed in clan, meaning they dont give a shyt about others, they group together and live in a Og universe, look at DDS, jubaland, NFD, they never need or mingle with other clans, this could be good, you need a clan shishkabab cannot influence, so no infiltration, , OG doesn't "share" but they will also avoid a siad barre sit there for decades, they will make the regional states strong, build federalism, maybe even Confederacy and leave where the regions have a veto power over the state

when cabdulmajid and every dir/1door/samaroon etc ganged on OG in the 1995 elections, OG still so united won 87% of the votes and kicked out cabdulmajid after 5 months, everyone ganged on us, OG dominates, and is willing to fight a very long bloody war, they dont give up easily,

Mj will sweet talk, bribe, give and take in xamar, we dont need that now, we need a group like OG that will dominate with sheer man power, who will block for a short time certain clans from power, karbash them, make them straight, set to straight and fix the dastuur that last 3 presidents have pissed on,


i 100% guarantee OG will ask amison to leave, cabdi iley offered ahmed madoobe 20K, he said let me wipe everything between the borders of DDS and kismayo and free the land fro yuo, why do you need kenyans and are not fighting back? but ahmed did not want somali blood being shed, he knew OG would have no mercy, he did not want OG being blamed for the future as somalis dont stop moaning, he is too soft,


when all others failed, adan gabyow captured hargeysa in the 80s in 2 weeks, what other generals could not do in years, he killed somali soldiers point blank if they failed to turn up to work on time, he shot them, he was trained in Russia, this is the OG mentality, they put fear and respect for leadership in soldiers, something SNA is missing,

a cousin of mine told me a Liyu soldier pulled him from the bus too harshly at a check point in Qoraxey, his commanding officer grabbed the soldier and slapped him in the face for pulling a civilian too harsh, this is OG leadership, soldiers are kept in line, i have seen very high on drugs soldiers in xamar harass females with niqqab at gun point and his colleagues watched, no OG liyu would allow that, disciplines is emphasised,

SNA have no morale, no vision, lack leadership, have no enemies, OG is shaped by 700 years of war with habashi, so they must be in top shape, leadership is not just tactics but one of strategy and ideology, this is why they are super aggressive, the enemy falls apart when you are decisive, lead well and brutal,


when Marshall was tasked to rebuild the US army in 1939, his most important characters of a commander was : aggressive, brutal, decisive, fast, will lead his men from the front,

45 liyu died last month recovering moyaale for garre from braon, 100 died recovering 3 degmo for ciise from tigra and canfaar invaders,

its always the leaders who died most, office corp, in kismayo i know how many officers we have lost fighting, always front as an example to their troops,

SNA doesn't have this, they send the small lads whilst the fat officer corp stay behind in a tent because he is picked based on tribe rather than merit,

SNA is forced to pick leaders due to 4.5, a screwed up system, where each is suspicious of the other clan, OG has the advantage in DDS of not giving a hoot what other somalis think and the officer corp being 100% them, in fact 95% of the soldiers are them,

certain somali clans like 1door, ciise etc wanted the local liyu to be them, we said hell no, we knew it would divide us and make us a mini somalia, besides we know only Og is willing to die anyways, so training and weaponizing certain clans was a waste of time, and not very strategic if OG is to maintain ultimate force in the military, no ifs, the land is called Ogadeniya in our mind, and we really really consider the rest as marti, they simply never ever fight anyways, waa bilcaan.

somalia in truth needs this, 1 super powerful clan that is the last stop, too many cooks in the kitchen, a state will not be strong like this way, its futile, its why Tigra lost power so quickly over night, many non tigra soldiers simply failed to listen to commands,

 

[Ras]

BN: i will get back to you on the economics thread, apologies , i have not forgotten sxb, i am actually thinking of just recording a video for you then pasting it with all the answers and go back and forth and answer all your questions with a video, but i have to create an email since i dont want to reveal my current your tube username, i have a very famous surname which all Og will recognise and most somalis in fact, so bare with me saxib insha Allah

i dont want them running private security, keep in mind OG is keeping 100 million raw meat eaters at bay, they have never ever touched a drop of our oil or gas despite sending in miners since the 1950s, OG has always stood against it,

also 10$ per head is really not cheap, many family can barely afford to eat, orphans, it will be a burden for many since jobs are not plenty,

i just want to wipe out alshabab, but i cannot allow liyu to do it for "free" nor do i want money each month, i want power, and since we will sacrifice OG blood, we might as well demand the presidency in return,


mark my word, somalia will never ever rest or get peace until OG gets referendum with gun or pen in DDS and then focuses on somalia,

siad barre was only strong as long as OG generals supported him and he lost power as soon as he fought with OG over kismayo in the late 80s,


yuo also need a clan who will implement very strong federalism with regional leaders able to veto xamar FGS, and a clan with very strong army, MJ is very pro federal but in truth Mj cannot fight hawiye and marehan and moryaans, they dont have the man power, there is already 70,000 geeljires keeping 100 million raw meat eaters at bay, Mj will not be able to stomach losses like OG can, OG knows how to persevere in hardship and war, they have been doing it foe centuries, defending somali borders and single handedly expanded somali lands force centuries, its in their blood to fight, and dominate an enemy, harti is too nice, the prefer diplomacy over war, harti is not ruthless enough, you need a killer and a federalism support but also one with daqan

only issue might be OG will alarm Ethiopia, OG will 100% use the somali state to build an army and march to adis, did you know for years ethiopia will always demand from somali presidents not to make OG the prime minister? or even give them powerful ministers in FGS, gabre would make sure, they always feared OG will use the somali state, rebuild it and take the new forces to march into somalia, and OG will do it, trust me,

to get into jubaland, ethiopia did everything to stop OG, but OG kenyan ministers like former defence minister uncle Yusuf hajji used every trick and clout, called on the US, UK, EU, Ethiopia cried, but OG kenyans out did them in the end where ethiopia was forced to accept reality,



certain central somali clans dont want peace, they make money or their moryaan do from chaos and wars and we know amisom sells weapons to the shaytans,

who are the most hardcore pro somalis today in the world? ONLf, imagine if they won next year, and sent 100 K men, i am sure somalis would cry we are being invaded and deep down would fear, but its in our interest to get a strong somalia to free DDS,

would ONLF ever allow ethiopia to take ports, i even doubt if amisom would be allowed to stay longer than 2 months, onlf would demand they leave, they would secure xamar anyways, but we would also create many enemies who dont want peace in somalia, just being realistic,

also OG doesn't know hawiye, what clan is which, to them they will group them together and just wipe them out with no hesitation,


like it or not people, we need one powerful clan to save somalia, also OG is a very closed in clan, meaning they dont give a shyt about others, they group together and live in a Og universe, look at DDS, jubaland, NFD, they never need or mingle with other clans, this could be good, you need a clan shishkabab cannot influence, so no infiltration, , OG doesn't "share" but they will also avoid a siad barre sit there for decades, they will make the regional states strong, build federalism, maybe even Confederacy and leave where the regions have a veto power over the state

when cabdulmajid and every dir/1door/samaroon etc ganged on OG in the 1995 elections, OG still so united won 87% of the votes and kicked out cabdulmajid after 5 months, everyone ganged on us, OG dominates, and is willing to fight a very long bloody war, they dont give up easily,

Mj will sweet talk, bribe, give and take in xamar, we dont need that now, we need a group like OG that will dominate with sheer man power, who will block for a short time certain clans from power, karbash them, make them straight, set to straight and fix the dastuur that last 3 presidents have pissed on,


i 100% guarantee OG will ask amison to leave, cabdi iley offered ahmed madoobe 20K, he said let me wipe everything between the borders of DDS and kismayo and free the land fro yuo, why do you need kenyans and are not fighting back? but ahmed did not want somali blood being shed, he knew OG would have no mercy, he did not want OG being blamed for the future as somalis dont stop moaning, he is too soft,


when all others failed, adan gabyow captured hargeysa in the 80s in 2 weeks, what other generals could not do in years, he killed somali soldiers point blank if they failed to turn up to work on time, he shot them, he was trained in Russia, this is the OG mentality, they put fear and respect for leadership in soldiers, something SNA is missing,

a cousin of mine told me a Liyu soldier pulled him from the bus too harshly at a check point in Qoraxey, his commanding officer grabbed the soldier and slapped him in the face for pulling a civilian too harsh, this is OG leadership, soldiers are kept in line, i have seen very high on drugs soldiers in xamar harass females with niqqab at gun point and his colleagues watched, no OG liyu would allow that, disciplines is emphasised,

SNA have no morale, no vision, lack leadership, have no enemies, OG is shaped by 700 years of war with habashi, so they must be in top shape, leadership is not just tactics but one of strategy and ideology, this is why they are super aggressive, the enemy falls apart when you are decisive, lead well and brutal,


when Marshall was tasked to rebuild the US army in 1939, his most important characters of a commander was : aggressive, brutal, decisive, fast, will lead his men from the front,

45 liyu died last month recovering moyaale for garre from braon, 100 died recovering 3 degmo for ciise from tigra and canfaar invaders,

its always the leaders who died most, office corp, in kismayo i know how many officers we have lost fighting, always front as an example to their troops,

SNA doesn't have this, they send the small lads whilst the fat officer corp stay behind in a tent because he is picked based on tribe rather than merit,

SNA is forced to pick leaders due to 4.5, a screwed up system, where each is suspicious of the other clan, OG has the advantage in DDS of not giving a hoot what other somalis think and the officer corp being 100% them, in fact 95% of the soldiers are them,

certain somali clans like 1door, ciise etc wanted the local liyu to be them, we said hell no, we knew it would divide us and make us a mini somalia, besides we know only Og is willing to die anyways, so training and weaponizing certain clans was a waste of time, and not very strategic if OG is to maintain ultimate force in the military, no ifs, the land is called Ogadeniya in our mind, and we really really consider the rest as marti, they simply never ever fight anyways, waa bilcaan.

somalia in truth needs this, 1 super powerful clan that is the last stop, too many cooks in the kitchen, a state will not be strong like this way, its futile, its why Tigra lost power so quickly over night, many non tigra soldiers simply failed to listen to commands,

Sxb no worries take your time with your repsonse.

When I said $10/head I didn't mean to tax them directly.

There are plenty of ways to make money other than a direct fee.

You can request an exclusive monopoly over certain goods that the town/city imports.

Those alone are worth tens of millions in profits.

You can even offer them at a lower price because you don't have any competition to eat up your margins.

Win win

Also you can request tax deductions for the profits you make as payment.

Low lease rates for farmland or access to potential mineral mines etc

There are plenty of ways to not only fund the operation but also send money back to the parent organization (Somali region, ONLF etc).

Also since the place would be safer there'll be more jobs there in the end. Ogaden investors could even have first bites on good opportunities because they're already there.

Another win win

BTW Xamar is a lost case. You guys would do better if you just left it to burn and focus on the rest of the south.

All those smaller clans would be more likely to live under a big foot supremacy unlike bigger clans up north who would see it as losing face.

Asking MX to bend the knee to OG? Forget it. You'll have more success trying to get milk out of a daqax.

Right now the Ogadens might seem powerful and United but they're still lacking resources and influence @ where it counts.

Consolidating the south and growing the economy there for five years would give you enough of a foothold to not only secure JL but also gain enough funds to totally dominate DDS.

I don't care what clan ends up controlling Somalia in the end as long as it's consolidated.

I just want to get out of this embarrassing situation we're in.

Just like the medieval wars in England had dozens of similar tribes going at each for power but in the end once one tribe took over and brought the nation to greatness it didn't matter what tribe took over initially.

Just ask any Brit whether they're mercian, Wessex or w/e lol.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Sxb no worries take your time with your repsonse.

When I said $10/head I didn't mean to tax them directly.

There are plenty of ways to make money other than a direct fee.

You can request an exclusive monopoly over certain goods that the town/city imports.

Those alone are worth tens of millions in profits.

You can even offer them at a lower price because you don't have any competition to eat up your margins.

Win win

Also you can request tax deductions for the profits you make as payment.

Low lease rates for farmland or access to potential mineral mines etc

There are plenty of ways to not only fund the operation but also send money back to the parent organization (Somali region, ONLF etc).

Also since the place would be safer there'll be more jobs there in the end. Ogaden investors could even have first bites on good opportunities because they're already there.

Another win win

BTW Xamar is a lost case. You guys would do better if you just left it to burn and focus on the rest of the south.

All those smaller clans would be more likely to live under a big foot supremacy unlike bigger clans up north who would see it as losing face.

Asking MX to bend the knee to OG? Forget it. You'll have more success trying to get milk out of a daqax.

Right now the Ogadens might seem powerful and United but they're still lacking resources and influence @ where it counts.

Consolidating the south and growing the economy there for five years would give you enough of a foothold to not only secure JL but also gain enough funds to totally dominate DDS.

I don't care what clan ends up controlling Somalia in the end as long as it's consolidated.

I just want to get out of this embarrassing situation we're in.

Just like the medieval wars in England had dozens of similar tribes going at each for power but in the end once one tribe took over and brought the nation to greatness it didn't matter what tribe took over initially.

Just ask any Brit whether they're mercian, Wessex or w/e lol.

true saxib, we cannot let it burn though, sadly its the capital, so we need to fix it, so embarrassing, i would rather we have OG focus on jubaland and DDS referendum, we need to fix the capital, its the face of somalia,

and yes, england was bad until Alfred the great from west Sussex tribe took over and kicked out the vikings and Danish invaders ,

 

[Ras]

true saxib, we cannot let it burn though, sadly its the capital, so we need to fix it, so embarrassing, i would rather we have OG focus on jubaland and DDS referendum, we need to fix the capital, its the face of somalia,

and yes, england was bad until Alfred the great from west Sussex tribe took over and kicked out the vikings and Danish invaders ,

Studying medieval history could teach us how to handle our current situation since it happened countless of times in the past.

The main lesson I got is that war only ends when there's an absolute winner in the end that can consolidate power for decades.

Along with some other important lessons.


Anyways...
Nothing has changed in Xamar for the past 28 years so I I'm sure they'll survive for another 5.

You'll just ending up with less gain for your efforts unless you're big enough to swat away all the foreign interests there.

Even our Turkish "allies" wouldn't want to see a secure United Somalia.

However the good part is that those foreigners have limited influence outside of Xamar so that's why you should capitalize on the power you already have in the South and grow it.

Once your big enough those foreign rats wouldn't even dare to negotiate with you. They'll leave the country once someone appears that could threaten them.

BTW we're not dealing with governments here.

All these trouble makers are individual opportunist in those governments that think they could personally profit from Somalia while there's no one home to guard it.

Once the adults return they'll run of with their tails between their legs because even a tiny shitty African government could eat them up with no effort.

 

[Yahya]

Why doesn't this happen in other countries?

It's because we're the only people that are content with being game pieces.

Most people would be up in arms marching on the presidential villas every day while we just chew our days away.

It's because the somali youth are dumber than i'd hoped and these old greedy tribalistic men lead us. In japan or any other country the traitors that have hastened to save their masters UAE from taking blame would be dead and hanging.

Why are all the politicians attacking our intelligence service for telling the truth. Shabaab never claimed it till they were forced to. It's extremely obvious and only idiots don't realise that arabs are not sophisticated and f*ck up by leaving trails.

This will continue till we have a secret society with ppl from all tribes that are willing to assassinate useless tribal warlord from their clan if they are corrupt. That's the only way we can free ourselves. If someone from another clan assasinates them then we'll have tribal wars. Somalis are stupid and tribalistic even tho it's haram.

We need to do something about it because the general somali population are dumb. We must work from the shadows and assasinate all our enemies. We must do it cus no one else will.

How hard do you think it would be to assasinate some rich arab kid in knightsbridge, who's father easily orders the bombings in yemen? wouldn't take much. We've got killers, they just spend their time killing other somalis.

 

[Younes Osman]

They require years of training and the trainers costs a ton.

However dollar for dollar it would've brought more roi if there are dogs that can smell explosives.

Even at 10 million dollars it still would've only amounted to a few hundred thousand dollars or less for every attack we could've avoided.

k-9 units that specialises in sniffing out explosive devices is greatly need. In addition, to a SNA and SNP bomb squads.

 

[Ras]

It's because the somali youth are dumber than i'd hoped and these old greedy tribalistic men lead us. In japan or any other country the traitors that have hastened to save their masters UAE from taking blame would be dead and hanging.

Why are all the politicians attacking our intelligence service for telling the truth. Shabaab never claimed it till they were forced to. It's extremely obvious and only idiots don't realise that arabs are not sophisticated and f*ck up by leaving trails.

This will continue till we have a secret society with ppl from all tribes that are willing to assassinate useless tribal warlord from their clan if they are corrupt. That's the only way we can free ourselves. If someone from another clan assasinates them then we'll have tribal wars. Somalis are stupid and tribalistic even tho it's haram.

We need to do something about it because the general somali population are dumb. We must work from the shadows and assasinate all our enemies. We must do it cus no one else will.

How hard do you think it would be to assasinate some rich arab kid in knightsbridge, who's father easily orders the bombings in yemen? wouldn't take much. We've got killers, they just spend their time killing other somalis.

Don't worry. More people will be of the same mind after the next government which will inevitably be as shit as the other foreign appointed governments.

If they haven't gotten their shit in order by then the radical wadanis will start getting more active.

There are already some Somali societies out there but they can't justify action because FGS is still "trying" so it'll be just moryaanimo to take them down prematurely.

They can't even help out in Somalia because they'll be on some hit list if they did something as simple as picking up trash on streets in Xamar.

However after the next election flops all those restrictions would go out the door and we'll start regaining control over our nation's future.