Osman Digna called himself an Arab and rejected his Beja identity.
Tribal clashes erupt between Halfawi Nubians vs Zaghawi Darfuris in Kassala
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Osman Digna called himself an Arab and rejected his Beja identity.
what about the hadendoa his tribe who literally fought against the british they were nicknamed the fuzzy wuzzies and later most of the mahdis army were called fuzzy wuzzies which shows how important the bejas were
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They did fight but they weren't given any political benefits by the Mahdi himself. He was using them for his own gain and benefit.
It's much more complicated. The Mahdist state had three main groups:
1. Group 1 was the Mahdi and his Arabized Nubian kinsmen, these where mainly the Dongolawi and Jaali
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2. Group 2 was the Khalifa and his Nomadic Arab/Baggara kinsmen in Western Sudan (Kordofan/Darfur)
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3. Group 3 was Osman Digna and his Beja followers, Hadendowa and Amarar
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When the Mahdi died, the Khalifa deprived the Arabized Nubians from power and brought his people to the highest positions as he knew the Arabized Nubians looked down on him. Osman Digna and his Beja warriors where mostly autonomous since they spoke a language the other two did not understand.
fair enough i was responding to @Nomoregames2019 am aware the arabs sudanese and the nubians are the elite but to say that beja cushites did nothing and were similar to the black Madow tribes of darfur and nuba is nothing but disrespectful because bejas contributed to the mahdis army and were very powerful in Sudanese history they are elites alongside arab Sudanese and Nubians and shouldn't be compared to lowly jareeers who lived in the wildIt's much more complicated. The Mahdist state had three main groups:
1. Group 1 was the Mahdi and his Arabized Nubian kinsmen, these where mainly the Dongolawi and Jaali
Muhammad Ahmad - Wikipedia
2. Group 2 was the Khalifa and his Nomadic Arab/Baggara kinsmen in Western Sudan (Kordofan/Darfur)
Abdallahi ibn Muhammad - Wikipedia
3. Group 3 was Osman Digna and his Beja followers, Hadendowa and Amarar
Osman Digna - Wikipedia
When the Mahdi died, the Khalifa deprived the Arabized Nubians from power and brought his people to the highest positions as he knew the Arabized Nubians looked down on him. Osman Digna and his Beja warriors where mostly autonomous since they spoke a language the other two did not understand.
this is the quote i was responding to
@madaxweyne I was talking about mainly post colonial Sudan. 1956 and onwards.
He's correct though that Arabized Nubians have always been Merchants and better educated than other tribes. The British rule just increased that gap between them and the others.
bro the beja fought and died for sudan to be independant you shouldnt compare beja elites to wild niggeeers from the south and darfur am aware bejas get disrespectd by arab sudanese and nubians fun fact is my hairdressers from sudan and eritrea are beja their great people
not that fact of course bejas are nomads thats not the issue but the fact they didnt fight for sudan or contribute to the country
Beja's need to come together first and foremost and stop beefing with each other all the time. Dongolawis, Shaigiya and Jaali used to hate each other historically but today they are cool with each other outside of some jokes @Nomoregames2019
Did you know that the Hadendowa are supporting the Nuba in their conflict with Beni Amer
It's much more complicated. The Mahdist state had three main groups:
1. Group 1 was the Mahdi and his Arabized Nubian kinsmen, these where mainly the Dongolawi and Jaali
Muhammad Ahmad - Wikipedia
2. Group 2 was the Khalifa and his Nomadic Arab/Baggara kinsmen in Western Sudan (Kordofan/Darfur)
Abdallahi ibn Muhammad - Wikipedia
3. Group 3 was Osman Digna and his Beja followers, Hadendowa and Amarar
Osman Digna - Wikipedia
When the Mahdi died, the Khalifa deprived the Arabized Nubians from power and brought his people to the highest positions as he knew the Arabized Nubians looked down on him. Osman Digna and his Beja warriors where mostly autonomous since they spoke a language the other two did not understand.
Yes there was a several revolts that occurred after Al Mahdi died, mainly by the Jaalis and Dongolawis cause they were angry that an Arab from Darfur took over the Al Khalifa role.
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Beja's need to come together first and foremost and stop beefing with each other all the time. Dongolawis, Shaigiya and Jaali used to hate each other historically but today they are cool with each other outside of some jokes @Nomoregames2019
Did you know that the Hadendowa are supporting the Nuba in their conflict with Beni Amer
Wtf is wrong with u guys r u guys ignoring me on purpose abaha was nacalaa
are thier even arabs in darfur i head thier are some but the nilotes seem to be the majroity
You gain power in any country by educating yourself and your ethnic group and then forming institutions. Fighting isn't enough. Anyone can pick up arms and fight. Its all about empowering your ethnic group to become economically and socially, politically dominate under one umbrella/identity which is what the Jaalis and Dongolawis, and Shaygis done.
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Yes but they vary with looks. You have ones who look like this:
And others that look virtually indistinguishable from the African tribes there.
Video of the main Arab tribe there ^
Sorry. The total population of Bejas in Sudan is about 2.2 million. The biggest Beja sub clans in Sudan are the Beni Amir and the Hadendowa.
thier are a lot more bejas then nubians actually the beja population is growing each year they are now almost 3 and a half million in both sudan and eritrea
Eastern Sudan was far more important during colonialism, Port Sudan was a heavily utilized city and even had resorts in the neighboring red sea hills for the summer heat. Nowadays Port Sudan is a mess, to the point where importing to Khartoum from Port Said in northern Egypt is cheaper than importing from Port Sudan."According to the "Black Book", an analysis of Sudanese regional political representation published underground in the late 1990s by Darfur Islamist followers of Hassan al-Turabi, Eastern Sudan has been conspicuous since its independence for its political and economic marginalization. This part of Sudan had fewer ministers and representatives than other parts of the country in the civil and military branches of the central government, as well as having among the lowest rates of education and access to health services in the country."
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The entire region between Atbara and Port Sudan (basically eastern Sudan) has the highest potential in the country but the government is paying it no attention. Apparently Himedti wants to build the new capital there so that can transform the region.
Bejas aren't subjugated at all, the main issue is their region is too far from Khartoum. Halfawi Nubians are also ignored due to how far their villages are from Khartoum, however, they're more educated than Bejas since they simply value education more and are more business oriented.
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