this sheikh says it all, a country with 7 presidents

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I rather have 7 presidents who are working on developing their land than one useless president hiding in an Amison bunker and scared to visit other regions let alone do anything for them.
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no country on earth has 7 leaders. at some point farmaajo will leave and the wolves will devour themselves like in 1991.
 

FBIsomalia

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I rather have 7 presidents who are working on developing their land than one useless president hiding in an Amison bunker and scared to visit other regions let alone do anything for them.
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Xarmaajo even didnt control one city without Amisom, even three streets controlling is the best he can achieve. :win: .
 

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The titles are just names they(the presidents) do carry too much power but I cant in good faith advise the states to hand more power to the federal government when they are so incapable, traitorous, and tribalist.

Some changes need to be top down.
 
The titles are just names they(the presidents) do carry too much power but I cant in good faith advise the states to hand more power to the federal government when they are so incapable, traitorous, and tribalist.

Some changes need to be top down.

you can't run a company with 7 CEO's with 7 different boards its just not possible. similarly you can't have 7 presidents with 7 different parliaments running one country.

even a prime minister is too much, most other countries that have a president and prime minister one is ceremonial and one is the actual power figure. its like the whole system was designed so Somalia will never be stable and there will always be in fighting.

the way i see things is either somalis accept one president or they go their separate ways.
 
Forget the titles, the Presidents have way too much power in their respective regions terrible look for Somalias future and stability.

whats happening in 2020 is exactly what was happening in the early 90's when different faction leaders snm, ssdf, snf, usc ,rra where meeting in nairobi. just replace those factions with states. nothing came out of it in the 90's and nothing will come out of now in 2020.

we need to ask ourselves real brutal questions

is somalia to far gone? are we better if we go our separate ways?
 
whats happening in 2020 is exactly what was happening in the early 90's when different faction leaders snm, ssdf, snf, usc ,rra where meeting in nairobi. just replace those factions with states. nothing came out of it in the 90's and nothing will come out of now in 2020.

we need to ask ourselves real brutal questions

is somalia to far gone? are we better if we go our separate ways?

If we stay united we can become one of Africas strongest and wealthiest countries based on our geological position alone much less anything else. We have far more chances at so being together.

Somalia just needs a charismatic iron willed leader, that has a set plan and expands the power of the government and wont bend to achieve it. We just currently lack effective leadership.
 
If we stay united we can become one of Africas strongest and wealthy countries based on our geological position alone much less anything else. We have far more chances at so being together.

Somalia just needs a charismatic iron willed leader, that has a set plan and expands the power of the government and wont bend to achieve it. We just currently lack effective leadership.

it does not matter about who the leader is even if we get julias ceaser himself it will do nothing, it is the system + the people.

low iq people that are the most unpatriotic people on earth coupled with a system where the presidents both hands are tight behind his back.

even ceaser would not succeed in this situation with so much division. it is not even 1 or two factions it is over 10 factions.
 

Mozart

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If we stay united we can become one of Africas strongest and wealthy countries based on our geological position alone much less anything else. We have far more chances at so being together.

Somalia just needs a charismatic iron willed leader, that has a set plan and expands the power of the government and wont bend to achieve it. We just currently lack effective leadership.

That’s exactly what got Somalia into this mess . You’ll never find a Somali leader who won’t develop ‘his’ regions rather than the entire nation hence a lot of the population will be unhappy or will revolt. Also, to establish such leadership you need chaos. Somalia now has the rich , especially in the capital, armed with militias. You disagree with their agenda, they’ll just kill you. Look at the high profile deaths - they haven’t happened for no reason. So, they would just kill the ruler.

The way most people see it , they now have control over ‘their’ regions hence development and progress is not at the mercy of others.

People forget the war was devastating lol and many people will never move to certain areas or care about what happens there. Somali’s will never trust one another again and I can only see unity as a wild dream.
 
That’s exactly what got Somalia into this mess . You’ll never find a Somali leader who won’t develop ‘his’ regions rather than the entire nation hence a lot of the population will be unhappy or will revolt. Also, to establish such leadership you need chaos. Somalia now has the rich , especially in the capital, armed with militias. You disagree with their agenda, they’ll just kill you. Look at the high profile deaths - they haven’t happened for no reason. So, they would just kill the ruler.

The way most people see it , they now have control over ‘their’ regions hence development and progress is not at the mercy of others.

People forget the war was devastating lol and many people will never move to certain areas or care about what happens there. Somali’s will never trust one another again and I can only see unity as a wild dream.

farmaajo has not even build a single toilet anywhere his clan settles. that everyone knows
 

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you can't run a company with 7 CEO's with 7 different boards its just not possible. similarly you can't have 7 presidents with 7 different parliaments running one country.

even a prime minister is too much, most other countries that have a president and prime minister one is ceremonial and one is the actual power figure. its like the whole system was designed so Somalia will never be stable and there will always be in fighting.

the way i see things is either somalis accept one president or they go their separate ways.
These state leaders hold too much power currently because the fed cant be trusted have you kept up with politics these past few years? The fed should work on fighting AS and integrating state armies into the federal government and building there track record of being non-qabiiliste non-corruptible.

Once their is enough trust for that to happen the states will have lost all their leverage and be forced to be more co-operative. Instead the national army wasted 4 years standing in Gedo waiting for Madoobe to resign :snoop:
 

Mozart

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farmaajo has not even build a single toilet anywhere his clan settles. that everyone knows

Farmaajo is hell bent on benefitting his tribe in the war for Jubaland . Kheyre’s investment decisions in Galmudug speak for themselves.
 
it does not matter about who the leader is even if we get julias ceaser himself it will do nothing, it is the system + the people.

low iq people that are the most unpatriotic people on earth coupled with a system where the presidents both hands are tight behind his back.

even ceaser would not succeed in this situation with so much division. it is not even 1 or two factions it is over 10 factions.
That’s exactly what got Somalia into this mess . You’ll never find a Somali leader who won’t develop ‘his’ regions rather than the entire nation hence a lot of the population will be unhappy or will revolt. Also, to establish such leadership you need chaos. Somalia now has the rich , especially in the capital, armed with militias. You disagree with their agenda, they’ll just kill you. Look at the high profile deaths - they haven’t happened for no reason. So, they would just kill the ruler.

The people dont have to be patriotic at the moment, since they have nothing to be patriotic for. Instead you have to give them a reason to be patriotic and prideful. I beleive that starts with the weeding out of AS and its sympathizers and the federal government using its limited authroity to be a guarantor of credits and loans from foreign countries as well as within.

This coupled with a variation of the saemaul undong should give people incentive to develope their own lands and start benefitting their own cities and towns instead of waiting for federally funded projects. And as they begin to see their QOL improve and see Somalias status rise it should make people quite patriotic and nationalistic.
 

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