The Wild Bactrian Camel

[Foreman]

This camel breed would be ideal for Somaliland/Somalia where drought has become a common occurrence.

The wild camel has managed to survive in an area of the Gobi in China, the Gashun Gobi (Lop Nur), which was for 25 years a nuclear test site. The wild camel survived the effects of radiation from 43 atmospheric nuclear tests and is breeding naturally. In the absence of fresh water, it had also adapted to drinking salt water with a higher salt content than sea water. Domestic Bactrian camels cannot drink salt water with this degree of salt.

Research to date does not show conclusively how the wild camel is absorbing and secreting the salt water. In China, young camels after suckling for two years, can adapt to drinking salt-water. It is this adaptability which enables them to survive in the Gashun Gobi. Wild camels migrate over huge distances in pursuit of unreliable salt water sources and meagre grazing. They can survive extremes of temperature varying from -40 Celsius to plus 55 Celsius. The WCPF believes that the wild camel can yield up secrets, which will be of great benefit to man.


Here is the catch, less than 1,000 Bactrian wild exist today waba endangered specie.






Domesticated Bactarian camel can not drink salt water however its larger than wild counterpart, can take as much punish as lanky Dromedary, provide more meat per head, dry feces can be used as energy source to sustain fire and even employed as working animals. They are in abundance +2 million of this breed exist today.





Importing some to Burco would be

 

[World]

Why do we need wild animals for?

And how is the domesticated bactarian camel better than the camels from Somalia?

 

[Foreman]

Why do we need wild animals for?

And how is the domesticated bactarian camel better than the camels from Somalia?

Wild bactrian camel can drink salt water. Meaning when wells are dry in drought season they can simply be led to the coast and drink sea water! Domesticated Bactrian camel even though it can not drink sea water, its economically more viable than Dromedary.

The camel is a good source of meat in areas where the climate adversely affects other animals. The male dromedary carcass can weigh 400 kg or more (Knoess, 1977). The carcass of a male Bactrian can weigh up to 650 kg. The carcass of a female camel weighs between 250 and 350 kg.


The production of wool and hair of adult animals ranges between 1 kg (El-Amin, 1979) and to 5 kg (Keikin, 1976). The wool and hair of the oldworld camels is of lesser quality and value than that of the new-world camels. The Bactrian gives more wool than the dromedary and its wool is also of a higher quality (Dong Wei, 1979). Wool is shed at the end of winter, and if not gathered, the animal rubs itself against trees and bushes until the wool is discarded. In China about 1 500 tons of wool are collected per year. This wool is used for making padded cloth, quilts and mattresses. In addition to the wool, there is long hair that can also be sheared. This is used for making rope. The hair from the dromedary is used for making clothes, tents, carpets (Cloudley-Thompson, 1965), robes, saddle-girths and blankets (El-Amin, 1979).


Camel hides are used for making shoes and sandals. The hide of the dromedary is not good quality, and is mainly used for making whips and saddles (El-Amin, 1979). Hide is used to make a gourdlike container for water and milk. The skin of the vicugna is highly prized and can bring in US$ 1 000 per skin (Bustinza, 1979). The guanaco has a skin of good quality and, among other things, is used for making bed covers, coats and mantels. Llama hide is used for making shoes, sandals and bags.

The meat, skins and furs of the new-world camels are thus far more important for man than the milk and haulage ability of the old-world camels. Nevertheless, the food producing characteristics of the desert-living camel, in respect of both milk and meat, are complemented by accompanying yields of wool, hides, skins and bones, which all help to provide man with clothing, shelter and other useful products. When breeding for the ideal milk producer, the meat, as provided by the calves, and the wool can supplement local industry. As with beef, the most economical age for slaughter, and the age of the animal having the best-tasting meat must be determined. This will quickly reverse the misconceptions regarding camel meat which are mainly due to the slaughter of aged animals that have outgrown their usefulness.


Dried camel dung, of which the dry matter content is twice that of dried cattle dung, is one of the few sources of energy available to camel owners in the desert steppes of central Asia. Every year about 950 kg of dung are collected per adult animal. The compact balls of dung have a high caloric value and are highly rated as fuel. Since the dung burns with a low, long-lasting and virtually smoke-free flame, the women can start cooking well in advance of mealtimes and can leave the tent now and again while the food is being slowly heated. Since the burning process produces little smoke, the yurt dwellers are not exposed to smoke pollution.

You can read more here

http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/X6528E/X6528E01.htm#chI.


http://www.fao.org/docrep/X1700T/x1700t05.htm

 

[Xooshdheere]

they are creepy

 

[Foreman]

they are creepy

You've picked a wild malnourished one, when properly feed its not so bad even better looking with domesticated breed.

I suggest importing em to the horn for their salt tolerant characteristics. Domesticated two humped camel have better prospect than one humped ones.

 

[World]

Wild bactrian camel can drink salt water. Meaning when wells are dry in drought season they can simply be led to the coast and drink sea water! Domesticated Bactrian camel even though it can not drink sea water, its economically more viable than Dromedary.

Geeljires don't need wild camels.

The camel is a good source of meat in areas where the climate adversely affects other animals. The male dromedary carcass can weigh 400 kg or more (Knoess, 1977). The carcass of a male Bactrian can weigh up to 650 kg. The carcass of a female camel weighs between 250 and 350 kg.


The production of wool and hair of adult animals ranges between 1 kg (El-Amin, 1979) and to 5 kg (Keikin, 1976). The wool and hair of the oldworld camels is of lesser quality and value than that of the new-world camels. The Bactrian gives more wool than the dromedary and its wool is also of a higher quality (Dong Wei, 1979). Wool is shed at the end of winter, and if not gathered, the animal rubs itself against trees and bushes until the wool is discarded. In China about 1 500 tons of wool are collected per year. This wool is used for making padded cloth, quilts and mattresses. In addition to the wool, there is long hair that can also be sheared. This is used for making rope. The hair from the dromedary is used for making clothes, tents, carpets (Cloudley-Thompson, 1965), robes, saddle-girths and blankets (El-Amin, 1979).


Camel hides are used for making shoes and sandals. The hide of the dromedary is not good quality, and is mainly used for making whips and saddles (El-Amin, 1979). Hide is used to make a gourdlike container for water and milk. The skin of the vicugna is highly prized and can bring in US$ 1 000 per skin (Bustinza, 1979). The guanaco has a skin of good quality and, among other things, is used for making bed covers, coats and mantels. Llama hide is used for making shoes, sandals and bags.

The meat, skins and furs of the new-world camels are thus far more important for man than the milk and haulage ability of the old-world camels. Nevertheless, the food producing characteristics of the desert-living camel, in respect of both milk and meat, are complemented by accompanying yields of wool, hides, skins and bones, which all help to provide man with clothing, shelter and other useful products. When breeding for the ideal milk producer, the meat, as provided by the calves, and the wool can supplement local industry. As with beef, the most economical age for slaughter, and the age of the animal having the best-tasting meat must be determined. This will quickly reverse the misconceptions regarding camel meat which are mainly due to the slaughter of aged animals that have outgrown their usefulness.


Dried camel dung, of which the dry matter content is twice that of dried cattle dung, is one of the few sources of energy available to camel owners in the desert steppes of central Asia. Every year about 950 kg of dung are collected per adult animal. The compact balls of dung have a high caloric value and are highly rated as fuel. Since the dung burns with a low, long-lasting and virtually smoke-free flame, the women can start cooking well in advance of mealtimes and can leave the tent now and again while the food is being slowly heated. Since the burning process produces little smoke, the yurt dwellers are not exposed to smoke pollution.

You can read more here

http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/X6528E/X6528E01.htm#chI.


http://www.fao.org/docrep/X1700T/x1700t05.htm

The only important thing is whether the domesticated bactrian camel produces as much milk as the dromedary camel, and if it is stronger and can survive in tougher conditions.

If the answers to both of these question is no, then how will they help with drought?

 

[Foreman]

Geeljires don't need wild camels.


The only important thing is whether the domesticated bactrian camel produces as much milk as the dromedary camel, and if it is stronger and can survive in tougher conditions.

If the answers to both of these question is no, then how will they help with drought?

Geeljires need living camels and the best suited ones are wild breed.

Salt tolerant wild breed is currently under protection maybe in 10 years we might be able to import some until than domesticated breed is a better option. They are as durable as Dromedary (arguably even more) produce more meat, stronger camels that can pull and carry goods, dung as source of energy, wool and better skin.

Only drawback might be the milk they produce is less than Dromedary as a general rule.However Somalis milk on average 5 KG per camel a day same as average production of a Bactarian camel. Some can milk 15-20 KG per day.




Somalia

The lactation period is between 8–18 months (Mares, 1954a). The length of lactation depends on when the lactating dam is remated. The average daily yield in milk is 5 kg with a total yield of 1 950 kg. The amount of milk drunk by the calf is regulated by tying up one or more teats (Mares, 1954a). The amount the calf is allowed is determined by its needs and the milking capacity of the mother. Camels are milked twice a day; just after sunrise and at least two hours after sunset. Calves run with their mothers but are penned separately at night. From the age of six weeks they graze. When calves have finished suckling the amount left for consumption by the tent dwellers can vary from 1 to 4 kg (Epstein, 1970).

 

[yuusufdiin]

we dont need different breeds of camels for droughts, we need proper agricultural cultivation to prevent droughts

 

[Foreman]

we dont need different breeds of camels for droughts, we need proper agricultural cultivation to prevent droughts

Do you listen to yourself

Drought occurs as result of climate change, agriculture doe not prevent drought. Planting a tree doesn't force rain to fall.

 

[yuusufdiin]

Do you listen to yourself

Drought occurs as result of climate change, agriculture doe not prevent drought. Planting a tree doesn't force rain to fall.

its a known FACT that tree's produce moisture to the sky creating rain clouds, where do u think rain comes from? trees also help full up ground water for wells, trees with deep roots also help prevent soil erosion why do u think people promote tree planting to reverse climate change

 

[Foreman]

its a known FACT that tree's produce moisture to the sky creating rain clouds, where do u think rain comes from

 

[yuusufdiin]

 

[Foreman]

@yuusufdiin threadka ka bax waryahe

 

[yuusufdiin]

@yuusufdiin threadka ka bax waryahe

#makesomaliagreenagain

 

[World]

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Why don't Somalis instead import camels from Pakistan? They produce 5-7 times more milk on average. Meaning we could reduce the amount of camels by 5-7 times to stop overgrazing?

 

[Foreman]

Why don't Somalis instead import camels from Pakistan? They produce 5-7 times more milk on average. Meaning we could reduce the amount of camels by 5-7 times to stop overgrazing?

Strong bump lol


Dromedary are same across the world. Pakistan has more fodder and water. Healthy well fed camels produce more milk/meat.

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