The Story Of Israel. A True Miracle On Earth

DR OSMAN

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I personally have always had a love/hate relationship with Israel, but it's time to actually present the historical facts about this people, without adding my emotional twist to it or sourcing information about them from non jews. The undeniable fact is this is the only group of human beings who have suffered a million times of pain/oppression/struggle over the longest duration in history.

The pain started with Egypt slavery/bondage, it escalated to occupation by persia-assyria-babylon-romans-arabs-ottomanss-british. Then came the great exile in jesus time period till 1948 nearly 2000 years, they remained landless, un-armed, suffered horrendous discrimination world-wide and multiple pogroms and finally the ultimate holocaust. There is no group of humans who have endured all that for nearly 3500 years without even a 'BREAK'. I mean in comparison Blacks have suffered slavery-discrimination-occupation for 300 years 'max' and they 'cry' all day/night, could these ppl put up with what jews went through for 3500 years? of course not. They couldn't walk a day in the shoes of a jew, their WEAK.

The holocaust is the worst genocide to ever taken place in human history, I say that with the upmost confidence. The holocaust deniers/minimizers try to use other events of persecution or killings but none of them were in any way similar to what we witnesssed with the jews. The Jews were un-armed and not fighting anyone and were selected to be 'erased' man-child-woman by Hitler. That's the ultimate act of a coward. Where-as every other example used to minimize or deny the holocaust doesn't have any of those attributes, in-fact every killing mentioned those 'groups' were actively in a WAR and are collateral of WAR not 'genocide'.

The word genocide is thrown around a-lot but u must meet it's definition. It's the killing of un-armed people who are not involved in any armed conflict nor harboring armed elements. Once that group is involved in the conflict, the term genocide cannot even be applied, but war collateral is more appropriate, their part n parcel of the war and any outcome that happens to them is the result of war not genocide.

Finally what I admire about them the Jews the most is even the whole world against them for 3500 years(something I can't even imagine) yet 'survived' but not only that 'thrive' in the world of knowledge and wealth. Surely you can see why Israel is a bloody Miracle, it's impossible any other racial or religious group could suffer as long as they did while being landless/unarmed and in a world that is very much against them and still turn this negative into a positive.
 

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If Tupac said

I got shot five times, but I'm still breathin' Living proof there's a God if you need a reason ·

I Say

Israel is a Miracle on Earth and Living proof there's a God if you need a reason ·
 

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If Somalis were displaced for 2000 years and went to europe and became white thru inter-marriage can they not come back to Somalia and re-claim it as their ancestoral land from Bantu Or Oromo Squatters? Why can't Israel? Israel is reborn not created in 1948, it has a long history in that land and their whole diaspora kept the culture, language, religiion of that land 'jerusalem'

Jerusalem

 

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The Curse on Jews have been Lifted, God has allowed their return to Israel, to restore it's place among the nations of the world with pride and confidence. They will never return to being homelesss and un-armed, they made a pledge to die before that. They suffered long enough 3500 years, as humanity we must leave these ppl alone.

Infact I predict based on history as all Israel enemies today don't exist while they do, infact I predict, they will be the last nation on Earth as everyone goes extinct. They already have 3500 year confirmed and oral records stretching to Abraham. That's god blessing I guess, as other humans r truly 'garbage' and go extinct.
 

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Damn the IDF is really going overboard every since the start of the war.
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What is the pay like?
 

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Damn the IDF is really going overboard every since the start of the war.
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What is the pay like?

These ppl r mentally taught the world hates them and wants to wipe em out, child-man-woman-elderly, their all equipped with this, so when they 'witness' violence on them, they go all 'beserk' and re-confirms what they been 'taught' also and fuels their conviction their 'right'. Palestine hasn't won becuz it's fighting them where their strong/prepared, and as sun tzu taught u fight ur enemy on their weakness and military is NOT 1 of their weakness but GREATEST STRENGTH.
 

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Damn the IDF is really going overboard every since the start of the war.
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What is the pay like?


Israel weakest point is 'politics' locally among themselves and international community and I suspect the reason is due to their inexperience with this area due to the 2000 year exile. Their going around bribing countries with agro-tech, security, etc to get more international support. If the world didn't 'feed' them their narrative 'the world wanna kill us' and stepped away, I suspect they wud collapse internally as they turn on each other.
 

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These ppl r mentally taught the world hates them and wants to wipe em out, child-man-woman-elderly, their all equipped with this, so when they 'witness' violence on them, they go all 'beserk' and re-confirms what they been 'taught' also and fuels their conviction their 'right'. Palestine hasn't won becuz it's fighting them where their strong/prepared, and as sun tzu taught u fight ur enemy on their weakness and military is NOT 1 of their weakness but GREATEST STRENGTH.
The entire west has been in submission to Israel ever since ww2.

Muslim historically had great relations with the jews only has that relationship been sullied by the zionist occupation of israel.

Many times when jews were persecuted they seeked safety in muslim lands.

People who lack any historical understanding of the situation think muslims are antisemitic because they are just hateful people. No muslims have been stabbed in the back after a millennium of good relations.

Palestine can’t win because they are essentially battling the star child of American imperialism. Constant aid to Israel during this war even though they are a first world nation which should be able to stand on its own 2 legs.
 

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These ppl r mentally taught the world hates them and wants to wipe em out, child-man-woman-elderly
This described the jewish experience in Christian/European lands but not muslim lands. Only until recently have muslims gained this perspective.

This was made by a jew
 

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This described the jewish experience in Christian/European lands but not muslim lands. Only until recently have muslims gained this perspective.

I wouldn't say jews had a nice existence in Muslim lands, the pact of 'omar' was applied to them and they lived inferior status to the muslims kinda like saying madhiban-gabooye had good life in Somalia, when that's totally untrue. Yes muslims didn't go to the 'extremes' of christian europe with jews which is why at times they fled there, but that doesn't equate to they had a good existence either. They always were choosing between 'labo daran' or 'bad and worse' option kkkkk that's more accurate, their was simply no 'good' option for them at all times.
 

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This described the jewish experience in Christian/European lands but not muslim lands. Only until recently have muslims gained this perspective.

This was made by a jew

PPL r blinded by morality in palestine/Israel issue, both have strong cases is the fact. Palestine argue they were on the land when Israel was created, while Israel claims their returning to their land that they were exiled from. Both are valid as each other.

The issue isn't about right and wrong here, it's simply down to 'strategem' and who's winning/losing and that's where palestine is EXPOSED big time, 70 years of fighting Israel yet Israel only gets stronger and BOLDER taking more land in west bank is what we witness, this requires palestinian leaders to change strategem or else if they continue at this rate, they won't have any land left.

So my hatred of Palestine is purely due to their careless fighting for 70 years with no return on investment in-fact the the investment return has created a stronger Israel and parts of the west bank being annexed, surely if their leaders are semi intelligent will stop pursuing this route but they don't and u constantly have ppl cheerleading for them in their 'demise'.
 

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I wouldn't say jews had a nice existence in Muslim lands, the pact of 'omar' was applied to them and they lived inferior status to the muslims kinda like saying madhiban-gabooye had good life in Somalia, when that's totally untrue. Yes muslims didn't go to the 'extremes' of christian europe with jews which is why at times they fled there, but that doesn't equate to they had a good existence either. They always were choosing between 'labo daran' or 'bad and worse' option kkkkk that's more accurate, their was simply no 'good' option for them at all times.
While they were second class citizens it was far better to be a jew under muslim rule than Christian, Egyptian or Roman rule.

I think the madhiban had it worse under Somali rule compared to jewish rule.
To the point where jews were telling there European counterparts to immigrate to muslim lands.

Now it wasn’t a utopia for jews but it is important to understand where muslim/jewish relations come from to understand the Israel/Palestine conflict in a wholesale manner.
 
it is one of the greatest geopolitical successes in the 20th century. a people killed and prosecuted everywhere found a country, improve it and make it a developed powerhouse which has higher gdp per capita than france and germany, all the while having no oil or natural resources and facing its neighbors who want every jew dead.
 

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While they were second class citizens it was far better to be a jew under muslim rule than Christian, Egyptian or Roman rule.

I think the madhiban had it worse under Somali rule compared to jewish rule.
To the point where jews were telling there European counterparts to immigrate to muslim lands.

Now it wasn’t a utopia for jews but it is important to understand where muslim/jewish relations come from to understand the Israel/Palestine conflict in a wholesale manner.

In the context of the world standard at that time, jews definitely had it better in muslim dominions I don't dispute it, but u need to accept also 'neither christian/muslim' dominions were 'favorable' conditions for jews and a case of choosing bad to worse. Like the Somali post 91 in our world standard the 'west' is best place due to how many other bad places exist, but that doesn't mean the conditions are 'favorable' to them here, it just means it's less worse then other countries. The jewish situation in exile is very similar to our own exile post 91
 

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In the context of the world standard at that time, jews definitely had it better in muslim dominions I don't dispute it, but u need to accept also 'neither christian/muslim' dominions were 'favorable' conditions for jews and a case of choosing bad to worse. Like the Somali post 91 in our world standard the 'west' is best place due to how many other bad places exist, but that doesn't mean the conditions are 'favorable' to them here, it just means it's less worse then other countries. The jewish situation in exile is very similar to our own exile post 91
We can argue how bad it was but we are talking about multiple different civilisations with different interpretations of islam across hundreds of years. So maybe during some periods it was bad others it was good.

Jewish historians tend to have a more positive attitude towards pre modern muslim history.
 

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I personally have always had a love/hate relationship with Israel, but it's time to actually present the historical facts about this people, without adding my emotional twist to it or sourcing information about them from non jews. The undeniable fact is this is the only group of human beings who have suffered a million times of pain/oppression/struggle over the longest duration in history.

The pain started with Egypt slavery/bondage, it escalated to occupation by persia-assyria-babylon-romans-arabs-ottomanss-british. Then came the great exile in jesus time period till 1948 nearly 2000 years, they remained landless, un-armed, suffered horrendous discrimination world-wide and multiple pogroms and finally the ultimate holocaust. There is no group of humans who have endured all that for nearly 3500 years without even a 'BREAK'. I mean in comparison Blacks have suffered slavery-discrimination-occupation for 300 years 'max' and they 'cry' all day/night, could these ppl put up with what jews went through for 3500 years? of course not. They couldn't walk a day in the shoes of a jew, their WEAK.

The holocaust is the worst genocide to ever taken place in human history, I say that with the upmost confidence. The holocaust deniers/minimizers try to use other events of persecution or killings but none of them were in any way similar to what we witnesssed with the jews. The Jews were un-armed and not fighting anyone and were selected to be 'erased' man-child-woman by Hitler. That's the ultimate act of a coward. Where-as every other example used to minimize or deny the holocaust doesn't have any of those attributes, in-fact every killing mentioned those 'groups' were actively in a WAR and are collateral of WAR not 'genocide'.

The word genocide is thrown around a-lot but u must meet it's definition. It's the killing of un-armed people who are not involved in any armed conflict nor harboring armed elements. Once that group is involved in the conflict, the term genocide cannot even be applied, but war collateral is more appropriate, their part n parcel of the war and any outcome that happens to them is the result of war not genocide.

Finally what I admire about them the Jews the most is even the whole world against them for 3500 years(something I can't even imagine) yet 'survived' but not only that 'thrive' in the world of knowledge and wealth. Surely you can see why Israel is a bloody Miracle, it's impossible any other racial or religious group could suffer as long as they did while being landless/unarmed and in a world that is very much against them and still turn this negative into a positive.
Skill issue. They didn't get kicked out for no reason. They take advantage when it's possible. Who's fault is it your destroying countries
 

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