The results of nationalism vs tribalism: With and without unity

[Ayubi]

Saudi Arabia without unity divided by tribes:

Saudi Arabia United under a country:

UAE divided into rival tribal emirates:

When the UAE tribes/emirates united to build a prosperous nation:

Somalis: without unity and divided by tribes:

What we can be if Somalis prioritized Somalis over petty tribal difference:

 

[DR OSMAN]

Saudi Arabia without unity divided by tribes:

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Saudi Arabia United under a country:

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UAE divided into rival tribal emirates:

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When the UAE tribes/emirates united to build a prosperous nation:

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Somalia: without unity and divided by tribes:

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What we can be if Somalis prioritized Somalis over petty tribal difference:

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It's always petty tribal movements when it does't involve your clan right? it's world war 2 then. Why don't you start nationalizing yourself and start preaching to the spotters what tribe your from and why you hate your tribe, when you do that, some may actually take you serious or else continue in the way of the @TheMadMullah crying for nation hood but never saying what his real tribe is and ducking under other clans in disguise so he can abuse clans and get away with it

 

[firefox]

Nationalism over Tribalism

 

[BetterDaysAhead]

qabiilists:

 

[Medulla]

It's always petty tribal movements when it does't involve your clan right? it's world war 2 then. Why don't you start nationalizing yourself and start preaching to the spotters what tribe your from and why you hate your tribe, when you do that, some may actually take you serious or else continue in the way of the @TheMadMullah crying for nation hood but never saying what his real tribe is and ducking under other clans in disguise so he can abuse clans and get away with it

@Ayubi is your clansman if he can't say this on SSpot where do you expect him to go? He doesn't even hide it ,advocating for unity and abandoning tribal nonsense isn't the same as selfhate.

 

[TheMadMullah]

Long live nationalism

you just nailed what I have been telling the tuulo boys and what they not aware of. Nationalism with right vision will take millions of their kins and close family out of poverty

 

[Ayubi]

It's always petty tribal movements when it does't involve your clan right? it's world war 2 then. Why don't you start nationalizing yourself and start preaching to the spotters what tribe your from and why you hate your tribe, when you do that, some may actually take you serious or else continue in the way of the @TheMadMullah crying for nation hood but never saying what his real tribe is and ducking under other clans in disguise so he can abuse clans and get away with it

I'm MJ, I just think what has been happening for the last 30 years has been a disaster and countries with tribes have reached their potential and Somalis should also reach the same potential Saudi Arabia, UAE and other countries have reached.

 

[Abaadir]

Saudi Arabia without unity divided by tribes:

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Saudi Arabia United under a country:

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UAE divided into rival tribal emirates:

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When the UAE tribes/emirates united to build a prosperous nation:

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Somalis: without unity and divided by tribes:

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What we can be if Somalis prioritized Somalis over petty tribal difference:

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How does it feel to be behind Bedouin Arabs a couple of hundred years Zöömalis are low iq shameful people even worse than pre-islamic Arabs

 

[Advokaten]

I respect you ayubi, You are a wise man

 

[shum33]

this is a silly comparison. THE OIL THEY DISCOVERED AT THE RIGHT PERIOD OF THEIR HISTORY made the difference not nationalism!!! tribalism still exist in the gulf a clan and one family dynasy rule over other tribes. saudi arabia=house of saud, qatar=house of thani,dubai=house of al falasi
this is just some weird arab booty clapping

 

[Yahya]

this is a silly comparison. THE OIL THEY DISCOVERED AT THE RIGHT PERIOD OF THEIR HISTORY made the difference not nationalism!!! tribalism still exist in the gulf a clan and one family dynasy rule over other tribes. saudi arabia=house of saud, qatar=house of thani,dubai=house of al falasi
this is just some weird arab booty clapping

No it's reality. We are a useless ppl that can't even put our pride aside to accept our shame and short comings.

We must shame the ppl back home, until they hate their useless leaders. HAve qabil leaders if you want, hell even live in your shitty tuulo and fly your shitty flag.......but don't side with ajnabis that are destroying your country and never settle for leaders that want to take you back years while they own houses in foreign countries and citizenship elsewhere so they can dip after the damage is done.

We must begin shaming somalis until they realise they are dying out if they don't change.

Drought is coming! famine is coming!! Our enemies want our land! our rivals are settling in our tuulos! and other nations just want our resources with us in poverty!!!

If things don't change in 10-20 yrs. We will die out as a race or become more landaab than native indians. Let that sink in.

 

[Tucking_Fypo]

What a stupid comparison and why deny people who built their lands by calling it tribalism like somalia ever did anything for them, what's wrong with you damm nationalist and your lies nothing was built by no nation only destroyed and this fake unity you are peddling, unity never existed only invented 1960.only xaasid nimo aaf xun caay iyo been is thing nationalists know!

Eef your nation state my tribe is my nation

 

[Atoore]

@Ayubi is your clansman if he can't say this on SSpot where do you expect him to go? He doesn't even hide it ,advocating for unity and abandoning tribal nonsense isn't the same as selfhate.

Couldn’t have put it better.

 

[Abdillahi]

False comparison. Saudi Arabia had a gay British army officer help unite those Bedouin tribes under al saud. Then the Americans approached Ibn Saud and told him "hay you are sitting on an ocean of oil, let me help you get it out of the ground." Ibn Saud had no idea what oil is nor its potential and the Saudis have been very rich ever since.

 

[Drago]

False comparison. Saudi Arabia had a gay British army officer help unite those Bedouin tribes under al saud. Then the Americans approached Ibn Saud and told him "hay you are sitting on an ocean of oil, let me help you get it out of the ground." Ibn Saud had no idea what oil is nor its potential and the Saudis have been very rich ever since.

 

[GBTarmy]

So much wrong with this post, it was nationalism that killed thousands where was the oil then?

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Meh


I'm a nationalist Pler

 

[Mozart]

Nationalism in Somalia is non-existent and a pretty silly idea

 

[Ayubi]

So much wrong with this post, it was nationalism that killed thousands where was the oil then?

Rwanda was a country suffering from genocide and ethnic divisions, now there doing way better than Somalis who are so fixated over qabiil divisions. Also when you look at Muslim countries like Malaysia, Indonesia and the Gulf countries, it just puts us to shame.

Rwanda:

Malaysia:

Indonesia:

 

[Mozart]

Rwanda was a country suffering from genocide and ethnic divisions, now there doing way better than Somalis who are so fixated over qabiil divisions. Also when you look at Muslim countries like Malaysia, Indonesia and the Gulf countries, it just puts us to shame.

Rwanda:

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Malaysia:

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Indonesia:

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Rwanda's civil war was between the Tutsi and Hutu groups so it's not difficult to reconcile between 2 groups. Somalia's tribal hatred is far too complicated to reconcile.

The best example Somalia should follow is Singapore. President and MP'S hired on the basis of IQ examination. Some dude from my area was a cab driver and left his struggling family and is now in government - what a joke