The relationship between Harti, Arabs and Ogaden 1880st Jubaland, Waamo and Kismaayo

[DalsanJubiland]

@DalsanJubiland in which year did the darood clan arrive in jubbland ? The earliest year *

Probably in between 1700 to 1850
When German arrived earlier, Absame and Harti were there ruling the area .Before that when Arabs were ruling in between Warsheekh to Mozambique they were there.
Later when British and Italian arrived 1880
They were there
Very long time

 

[DalsanJubiland]

Summary; Harti were fighting Tunni and didn't have the man power so they asked Ogaden for support and the land in between Jamaame and lower Shabelle fell to Ogaden. Harti and Ogaden coordination were mostly close except during the British colonial era where Harti sided with the British and Ogadens fought them.

Later on during first and Second World War
Ogaden especially Maxamed Zubeer British offer them dominations of Juba region
And Harti supported Italian who captured all the way and Wajir . Then British and Ogaden came back capture whole region

 

[DalsanJubiland]

Jamaame is Biimaal.

True Biimaal is Majority
2nd Absame
3rds Harti
Absame and Harti have some villages
Harti has Three villages
One time city of Jamame was 80% Kablalax
Now Jamame is under AS

 

[Removed]

Jamaame is Biimaal.

True Biimaal is Majority
2nd Absame
3rds Harti
Absame and Harti have some villages
Harti has Three villages
One time city of Jamame was 80% Kablalax
Now Jamame is under AS

“Biyomaal” is shorthand for Jarèerweyn these days.

 

[Dharbash]

In thejubada Hoose
In between Bulo Haji and Badhadhe
And Hosingaw
Area call Joore
West of Kismaayo

Who lives there

 

[DalsanJubiland]

Who lives there

Harti
Degaanka Loda waaye ee Joore
Loda is king there
Deeganka Waamo iyo Joore waa messha ugu Loda badan Somalia

 

[SPMLegend]

There’s no such thing as far dhulbahante in Joore and there’s no Harti there. The only place I’ve heard of similar name is far waamo in Jamaame area.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Thanks for sharing @DalsanJubiland , we all know the thieves from Galgaduud are alien to Waamo, as is evident from their shanty shacks they built on government property in Kismaayo, aka the idp camp site called 'Xaafada Guulwadde'.

 

[DalsanJubiland]

There’s no such thing as far dhulbahante in Joore and there’s no Harti there. The only place I’ve heard of similar name is far waamo in Jamaame area.

Go and ask
Dadka dagan Bulo Haji, Hosingaw,Stanbuul, Santara, Badhadhe area ilaa iyo Abdalla Janaay ask them Far Dhulbahante, they will know
Those are Joore and Waamo
Coast area is different

 

[SPMLegend]

Go and ask
Dadka dagan Bulo Haji, Hosingaw,Stanbuul, Santara, Badhadhe area ilaa iyo Abdalla Janaay ask them Far Dhulbahante, they will know
Those are Joore and Waamo
Coast area is different

Istanbul is kismayo area not Joore but I will count Sanataro and slightly bulo Haji and hosingow is not consider Joore either. Janaay Abdalle is in Afmadow. I’ve never heard of far dhulbahante but I will try to research it though.

 

[Rivaldo]

Even Arab foreigners were in Jubaland long before beesha jar33r ee bo0nta marehan

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Summary; Harti were fighting Tunni and didn't have the man power so they asked Ogaden for support and the land in between Jamaame and lower Shabelle fell to Ogaden. Harti and Ogaden coordination were mostly close except during the British colonial era where Harti sided with the British and Ogadens fought them.

The original Harti Waamo actually took part in the wars in Kenya when Ogaden were expanding further. It is true that Ogaden gave Harti a lot of land, but Harti took part in subsequent wars. Even the Marehan took part in Wajir wars.

Darod used to function as a real clan in Jubaland before the numbers became too big. At the beginning stage when it was 2,000 Ogaden against 5,000 Orma or Boran, 200 Harti or 800 Marehan were very useful.

 

[Som]

Your arab friends sold the whole South to Italy.