The problem with South Sudanese in Australia

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Regg

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I remembered reading there are a lot of members here live in Oz. Since most African national after South Sudanese are Somalis so what do you think of them? Do you get along with them?

A lot of African nationals said the South Sudanese have completely destroyed the African community's reputation in Australia ever since the influx of SS came in 2006.

What is worrisome is that the media is not only referring them but the entire African community. They're using them as a scapegoat by using the term "African gangs", "group of black men", "African" this and that without mentioning their specific background and making them responsible for their problems, and many Aussies are falling for it.

Here is a thread recently about calling for a Cronulla style riots against "Africans".

Reddit: I'm calling it, Cronulla style violence and riots this summer

Reddit: Got jumped in St Kilda tonight
 
It is unfair to expect a Caucasian Australian to know the difference between a South Sudanese and a Somalilander.

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Von

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Yes its true that Sudanese have hurt the African image however its not all of the sudanese community, its the same select people repeating the same crime. Australia is so diverse that people know there is a difference in Africans even if they don't know how to explain it.
It is unfair to expect a Caucasian Australian to know the difference between a South Sudanese and a Somalilander.

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99 percent of Melbourne the capital of Somali Australia is MJ:drakewtf:
 

Vanessa

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Why do you care about s/sudanese people in melbourne? :drakewtf:
There's influx of fake news on african gangs.
Yet most crimes are done by white and Lebanese people.
 

Jiron

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South Sudanese are decent people, I have friends from the Dinka tribe. Try not to generalize a whole community by their bad apples. :)
 

Etacovda S'lived

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acudubillah! Did you sign up just to vent about south Sudanese?? So you are asking white people to target their criticism of ethnic groups and use facts? How would you like it if they said Somalis have a terror problem and produced facts? I bet you would cry racism and generalizing.

The south Sudanese are a tough group of people who just came out of difficult circumstances. Give them time and they will integrate and contribute to the country, whether it is in sports or some other capacity.
 

Yonis

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south sudanese are the some of the most dark skinned humans i've ever seen.
 

Regg

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Why do you care about s/sudanese people in melbourne? :drakewtf:
There's influx of fake news on african gangs.
Yet most crimes are done by white and Lebanese people.
It's not the 2000s anymore.

Sudanese-born offenders are the second most represented ethnic group behind Australians when it comes to aggravated burglaries, car thefts, and sexual offences in the 10-to-18 age group.

And they only make up 0.11% of the Victorian population. That statistic is insane.

The Somalis in Australia aren’t different from them. They are worse.
Yes, I'm aware but they're not worse. Somalians live in close knit community and concentrated areas mainly around government housing areas (Carlton, Flemington, Heidelberg and Footscray). They're nowhere to be seen outside those low class areas which is why no one cares except some bogans. That's why they're rarely mentioned in the news.

The difference is the troubles Somalis caused usually stand only within their own community/area. Not outside so again, that's why no one cares except those who live in those areas.

The S.Sudanese on the other hand move straight into the middle clas suburbs, country towns and all across Victoria causing trouble to other communities. They have destroyed the reputation with their attitude and behavior and they're like the ghetto of the US. The government wastes tax payers money on stupid services to help them out. It's crazy. They claim racism all the times. They think it's 1960's America.

Australia's 7News saying 'Africans' instead of South Sudanese
And you see why the average Joe can't differentiate between the SS and other African immigrants. The hate has reached boiling point. Africans this and that. It only takes a few individual to destroy a communities.

It happened in the 80s when the whole Balkan/Yugoslavian immigrants were the scapegoats for the Croation problems. In the 90s when Asians were the scapegoat for the problems Vietnamese caused and same for the Lebanese in the early 2000s.

What's worrisome is that they're calling for an arm against Africans, not specific group but the entire communities. It's a repeat of '05 Cronulla riot where it wasn't even about the Lebanese but everyone who looked brown were targetted (Middle Easterners and South Asians).
 
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Yes, there is a problem with young South Sudanese gangs in Melbourne but also with Somali youths who are over-represented in the criminal justice system.

African youth crime concern.

SUDANESE and Somali-born Victorians are about five times more likely to commit crimes than the wider community, a trend that must be addressed to prevent Cronulla-style social unrest, police warn.........''We've got to fix this now and make sure it doesn't continue, so the kids who are now 10 years old aren't in this offender bracket in five years' time. So we don't get the Cronullas happening,'' Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Tim Cartwright said.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/african-youth-crime-concern-20120819-24glt.html

How do we fare both communities?

The Sudanese arrived Australia much later than us, Somalis, however they have produced top world class athletes who became role models to their children while we produced wannabe jihadists.

From South Sudan to Australia, now NBA beckons for Deng Adel.

It may not yet be evident to the casual Australian basketball fan, but there's a revolution coming. A revolution that has been bubbling away beneath the surface of mainstream basketball for many years, and is only now starting to bear fruit.......the South Sudanese revolution is coming, and it's going to be incredibly exciting. Let's have a look at the numbers, shall we? This year, there are 63 Australian men on Division One basketball rosters across the United States. Of those sixty-three, nine of them are, like Maker, South Sudanese born. That's a whopping fourteen percent. If we then included all of the South Sudanese-Australians playing high school ball in the States, that number increases again. As blown away as we were (and, in many ways, still are) by Maker's athleticism, these kids aren't too far behind. But it's not only their basketball ability and freakish athletic talents that make them so special; it's how they got there.

http://www.espn.com.au/mens-college...ustralia-now-nba-beckons-louisville-deng-adel

i


Sudanese-Australian basketballers the next big things


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-15/sudanese-australian-basketballers-the-next-big-thing/7633528

Sudo Ballin’: The rise of Sudanese Australian basketball


Australian Football League (AFL) -----Not soccer.

Sudanese players making their mark in the AFL.

HE AFL'S ranks of Sudanese players have more than doubled after Friday's NAB AFL Rookie Draft.

After a season where he won All Australian honours for his outstanding NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, new Essendon rookie Gach Nyuon was gutted after he missed out in Tuesday night's national draft.

But he put his disappointment to the side to take to social media and acknowledge the efforts of his former teammates as they went to clubs across the country.

On Friday, he got his own chance to be congratulated when he was one of three Sudanese-born players to make their way to clubs as new rookies.

Nyuon was picked up by the Bombers at pick No.4, defender Reuben William went to the Brisbane Lions at No.20 and tall forward Mabior Chol was taken by Richmond at No.30.

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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-27/sudanese-players-making-their-mark-in-the-afl

Majak Daw led the way now new wave of Sudanese talent taking over at AFL level.



MABIOR Chol’s inevitable push towards senior selection with Richmond is just the tip of a largely uncharted Sudanese iceberg that threatens to burst into fruition in coming years.

Two years ago Majak Daw was the Sudanese poster boy but AFL numbers have now been boosted to five with Aliir Aliir (Sydney) Gach Nyuon (Essendon) Reuben William (Brisbane) and Chol joining Daw.



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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...l/news-story/e1ebd199234ec175becd2978d5ddeb79

Soccer

Awer Mabil

Awer Bul Mabil (born 15 September 1995) is an Australian professional association football player of South Sudanese descent who plays as a winger for Paços de Ferreira on loan from FC Midtjylland. He has also represented Australia at under-20 level.

Born in Kenya, Mabil played youth football at the South Australian National Training Centre and with Adelaide United. He made his senior debut for Campbelltown City, before making his debut in the A-League for Adelaide United in 2013.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awer_Mabil

Thomas Deng (watched him tonight dancing with the ball)

Thomas Deng (born 20 March 1997) is an Australian professional football (soccer) player who plays as a central defender for Melbourne Victory in the A-League.

Deng was born into a family of South Sudanese refugees in Nairobi, Kenya. He, along with his family, were fleeing from the conflict in South Sudan and eventually resettled in Australia.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Deng

Out of Africa: The next wave of footballers making a mark in the A-League (Australian soccer League) Not a single Somali.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...ng-a-mark-in-the-aleague-20150424-1msj6u.html

Many young Sudanese men made a positive impression on the psychic of the sports loving Aussies but none can mention a Somali other than the Somali jihadists that are on the news hell-bent on destroying them. Yes, there are young Sudanese and Somalis who pursued a path of crime but it seems that the Sudanese community also produced many successful athletes that became a role model for their children. We, on the other hand produced jihadist wannabes to become role models for our children.


SUDANESE and Somali-born Victorians are about five times more likely to commit crimes than the wider community
, a trend that must be addressed to prevent Cronulla-style social unrest, police warn.........''
We've got to fix this now and make sure it doesn't continue, so the kids who are now 10 years old aren't in this offender bracket in five years' time.
 
Yes, there is a problem with young South Sudanese gangs in Melbourne but also with Somali youths who are over-represented in the criminal justice system.

African youth crime concern.

SUDANESE and Somali-born Victorians are about five times more likely to commit crimes than the wider community, a trend that must be addressed to prevent Cronulla-style social unrest, police warn.........''We've got to fix this now and make sure it doesn't continue, so the kids who are now 10 years old aren't in this offender bracket in five years' time. So we don't get the Cronullas happening,'' Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Tim Cartwright said.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/african-youth-crime-concern-20120819-24glt.html

How do we fare both communities?

The Sudanese arrived Australia much later than us, Somalis, however they have produced top world class athletes who became role models to their children while we produced wannabe jihadists.

From South Sudan to Australia, now NBA beckons for Deng Adel.

It may not yet be evident to the casual Australian basketball fan, but there's a revolution coming. A revolution that has been bubbling away beneath the surface of mainstream basketball for many years, and is only now starting to bear fruit.......the South Sudanese revolution is coming, and it's going to be incredibly exciting. Let's have a look at the numbers, shall we? This year, there are 63 Australian men on Division One basketball rosters across the United States. Of those sixty-three, nine of them are, like Maker, South Sudanese born. That's a whopping fourteen percent. If we then included all of the South Sudanese-Australians playing high school ball in the States, that number increases again. As blown away as we were (and, in many ways, still are) by Maker's athleticism, these kids aren't too far behind. But it's not only their basketball ability and freakish athletic talents that make them so special; it's how they got there.

http://www.espn.com.au/mens-college...ustralia-now-nba-beckons-louisville-deng-adel

i


Sudanese-Australian basketballers the next big things


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-15/sudanese-australian-basketballers-the-next-big-thing/7633528

Sudo Ballin’: The rise of Sudanese Australian basketball


Australian Football League (AFL) -----Not soccer.

Sudanese players making their mark in the AFL.

HE AFL'S ranks of Sudanese players have more than doubled after Friday's NAB AFL Rookie Draft.

After a season where he won All Australian honours for his outstanding NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, new Essendon rookie Gach Nyuon was gutted after he missed out in Tuesday night's national draft.

But he put his disappointment to the side to take to social media and acknowledge the efforts of his former teammates as they went to clubs across the country.

On Friday, he got his own chance to be congratulated when he was one of three Sudanese-born players to make their way to clubs as new rookies.

Nyuon was picked up by the Bombers at pick No.4, defender Reuben William went to the Brisbane Lions at No.20 and tall forward Mabior Chol was taken by Richmond at No.30.

401937-tlsnewsportrait.jpg


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-27/sudanese-players-making-their-mark-in-the-afl

Majak Daw led the way now new wave of Sudanese talent taking over at AFL level.



MABIOR Chol’s inevitable push towards senior selection with Richmond is just the tip of a largely uncharted Sudanese iceberg that threatens to burst into fruition in coming years.

Two years ago Majak Daw was the Sudanese poster boy but AFL numbers have now been boosted to five with Aliir Aliir (Sydney) Gach Nyuon (Essendon) Reuben William (Brisbane) and Chol joining Daw.



89e373acf524687146d948fb4d1e25ef


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...l/news-story/e1ebd199234ec175becd2978d5ddeb79

Soccer

Awer Mabil

Awer Bul Mabil (born 15 September 1995) is an Australian professional association football player of South Sudanese descent who plays as a winger for Paços de Ferreira on loan from FC Midtjylland. He has also represented Australia at under-20 level.

Born in Kenya, Mabil played youth football at the South Australian National Training Centre and with Adelaide United. He made his senior debut for Campbelltown City, before making his debut in the A-League for Adelaide United in 2013.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awer_Mabil

Thomas Deng (watched him tonight dancing with the ball)

Thomas Deng (born 20 March 1997) is an Australian professional football (soccer) player who plays as a central defender for Melbourne Victory in the A-League.

Deng was born into a family of South Sudanese refugees in Nairobi, Kenya. He, along with his family, were fleeing from the conflict in South Sudan and eventually resettled in Australia.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Deng

Out of Africa: The next wave of footballers making a mark in the A-League (Australian soccer League) Not a single Somali.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...ng-a-mark-in-the-aleague-20150424-1msj6u.html

Many young Sudanese men made a positive impression on the psychic of the sports loving Aussies but none can mention a Somali other than the Somali jihadists that are on the news hell-bent on destroying them. Yes, there are young Sudanese and Somalis who pursued a path of crime but it seems that the Sudanese community also produced many successful athletes that became a role model for their children. We, on the other hand produced jihadist wannabes to become role models for our children.


SUDANESE and Somali-born Victorians are about five times more likely to commit crimes than the wider community
, a trend that must be addressed to prevent Cronulla-style social unrest, police warn.........''
We've got to fix this now and make sure it doesn't continue, so the kids who are now 10 years old aren't in this offender bracket in five years' time.
No offense but south Sudanese are physically stronger than Somalis that's why you see them in mass when it comes to sports
 
No offense but south Sudanese are physically stronger than Somalis that's why you see them in mass when it comes to sports

Guv

You got a point in Basketball and maybe in Aussie rules football, but the Sudanese soccer players are the same height and are as skinny as us, Somalis. Having said that, many medium built and average height players could succeed at Aussie rules football. We Somali blokes will suck playing even netball with chicks because we lack the discipline and toughness required to play sports at the highest level. That’s why I have tons of respect towards Mo Farah.
 
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