The Perfect Power Grid and the Future of Clean Energy ?

Lol this is canadian dollars which is 3b usd, and its a fleet of four reactors that use new technology, theres also many other factors like Canada having one of the strictest nuclear licensing laws and additional infrastructure being built

I gave examples of cheaper ones

Just because x buys y for a larger amount dont mean its the standards and they dont have the same electricity needs

Here are cheaper ones


Heres another one

listen i get what you mean but these guys wont invest in nuclear bro , just hope that we have oil, coal and gas that's the only hope for now Somalia is 50 years behind the world, they are addicted to building hotels, houses ,airports etc. instead of just starting from scratch and urban planing, building a sewer system water treatment plants, upgrading the grid, roads etc.
 
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They are saying these small reactors are $5b+. Big task for a country to mine uranium and construct these, let’s focus on fossil fuels for now and drill that oil.
 

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Yeah, apparently in 2024 11% of the grid was powered by Solar which is higher than I thought, according to the data it made electricity 50% cheaper in some areas but its only a temporary solution

I think it must be higher than that, because they announced that by the end of 2025 80% of would be green energy.
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They are even operating a 50MW biogas plant, and from the information available on several regional and local energy providers’ websites, it’s clear that many rural areas and towns now receive most of their electricity from hybrid renewable projects

Also are they really investing into AI datacenters ? 😂 😂

Yeah to boost computing, processing and storage power . They are building 11 of them across the country.

Think how much electricity data centers need so the fact that they can power them using solar power is pretty impressive.
Watch this:


In addition to that 85% of their equipment is powered by Solar energy already


You didn't bother to read the full thing I addressed all of this in the thread I linked

Gas powered generators aren't efficient its the reason we have the most ridiculously expensive energy in Africa, natural gas and coal arent nearly as efficient and clean as the other alternatives. Nuclear is getting cheaper as well

1 kg uranium = 24,000,000 kWh
1 kg coal = 8 kWh
1 kg natural gas = 14 kWh

1 kg uranium = 3,000,000 more efficient than coal
1 kg uranium = 1,700,000 more efficient than natural gas

Btw upgrading the grid in Somalia isn't just an ambition like oil its literally a necessity, I read that people cant even have basic things like poultry farms because of the price of electricity, its setting development back tremendously

In Somalia Electricity costs USD 0.41 per kWh and some private providers even charge up to USD 1.50 per kWh

To show you how ridiculous this is, in Ethiopia its USD 0.005 per kWh

Somalia is on par or even lower than Burundi when it comes to electricity, more people have access to electricity tho

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Look at how bad this is, its literally a makeshift grid people made in a few years as a temporary solution, should be fixed asap

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These graphs are extremely misleading because Somalia’s electricity system is decentralized. It’s tied to multiple microgrids operated by metro grid providers, not to a single national grid. These aren’t makeshift or temporary solutions they are fully localized grids.
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The graphs confuse national energy scale with local access and efficiency.

In fact, local access and efficiency are precisely why electricity coverage has expanded so rapidly across both urban and rural areas. It’s also why Somalia experiences far fewer blackouts and power shortages compared to our neighbors like Kenya and Ethiopia.

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This is why the world is beginning to recognize that localized microgrids are more efficient and reliable than centralized national grids. In many ways, Somalia has technologically leapfrogged ahead in this regard.

On pricing, Ethiopia and Kenya often face higher electricity costs than Somalia. Online reporting, however, is unreliable figures are often outdated or based on generalized assumptions that fail to reflect the realities on the ground.

It’s not only tariffs that determine costs, but also the overall pricing structure itself.
 
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Saxib, nuclear energy requires a skilled labor workforce and 1 plant costs in the tens of billions of dollars . Renewable energy is a scam. Somalia supposedly has oil, coal, and gas use these resources first. Btw, Somalia is a shithole no urban planning, no infrastructure, and no proper governance. Imagine installing a few thousand solar panels, only for a starving person to steal and sell them or some Mooryaan, or a crazy arsenal man decided to blow up a nuclear power plant lol.
If you’ve read Almond Energy’s website, you’d know they have experts with over 25 years of experience and have been working in Somalia since 2019 on knowledge transfer and local capacity-building. Nuclear energy is far cheaper to set up today thanks to technological advancements, and there’s also broad technical support from international nuclear organizations. --->>> https://almond-energy.com/

As for Somalia being a “shithole,” the reality is very different: most people have improved housing, internet, electricity, clean water, and access to vibrant local markets. The private sector is dynamic, employing thousands and delivering essential services.

The government is functional in many respects and actively engaged in numerous public–private partnership projects. Across the country, new roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, parks, drainage systems, water supply networks, and other key infrastructure continue to be built.

The main challenge has been the narrow tax base (due to a large informal economy), but the private sector has consistently stepped up, often co-financing development projects with local authorities.

On renewable energy: Somalia has already rolled out solar power nationwide , powering storage facilities, street lights, boreholes, irrigation, and community water systems.
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Solar installations began in 2016:

This video that talks about it and it also features wind energy:


From 2016–2018, Somali banks aggressively financed solar projects, allocating funds to multiple companies and organizations.
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That’s nearly a decade of successful deployment. Renewable energy is not a scam , it’s working, and the focus now is on scaling it up further.

Theft is not the problem you imagine. Nobody is stealing or selling solar panels. In fact, theft rates are low in Somalia and “Mooryaans” are a relic of the 1990s. Communities see solar as an economic lifeline: it supports businesses, expands storage capacity, and drives livelihoods.

Today, hybrid solar systems are increasingly paired with storage batteries and backup diesel or biomass, providing 24/7 coverage.

Low IQ rant ngl

When people on this site go on these diatribes, it actually gives me the opportunity to make it educational by correcting them.
 
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Idilinaa

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This is why the world is beginning to recognize that localized microgrids are more efficient and reliable than centralized national grids. In many ways, Somalia has technologically leapfrogged ahead in this regard.

@Barkhadle1520 Going back to your first post, if you look at that picture, when it comes to distributed/decentralized systems there is no assumption that solar power alone is expected to run the entire country. What’s actually being rolled out is a hybrid system, where energy comes from multiple sources (gas/diesel, nuclear, wind, solar, thermal, geothermal, etc.), all combined and tied to battery storage.

Somalia now has a unique advantage going forward because its grid system and infrastructure have been built to be scalable, low-cost, reliable, and future-ready.


Meanwhile, local electricity access in countries like Kenya is still very poor due to their reliance on a centralized national grid:

Because each plant or area relies on a single energy source makes it problematic as well because there is no back up or way to switch to another source.

The problem with these centralized setups is that each plant or region often relies on a single energy source, leaving no backup or flexibility to switch to another. Hydropower, wind, and other renewables are especially vulnerable to weather and seasonal changes:
Almost 70 percent of Kenya's electricity is generated by two water-dependent sources: hydropower and fossil fuels. According to Business Daily, the drought has caused Kenya's reserve energy margin—the amount of energy needed to meet peak demands— to drop to 4.4 percent, far lower than the recommended 15 percent needed to minimize risk of blackouts.
Kenya isn't the only country whose electricity supplies have been impacted by scarce water: In 2016 India's coal power sector—which is highly dependent on water for cooling—suffered profit losses of, at minimum, $350 million due to severe drought.

Both countries have constant power outages.

In Ethiopia it really hits households hard:
The study underscores that connection to electricity is not enough; the reliability of its supply is also important.

By contrast, in Somalia you don’t see reports of widespread blackouts or communities living next to power plants without electricity. Power runs continuously throughout the year, thanks to the decentralized microgrid model and hybrid systems supported by battery storage and access reaches people because it's localized.

I’d even argue Somalia’s electricity infrastructure is actually more modernized, since it’s continuously updated and expanded. As I explained in another thread months ago:
You mean centralized national grid. They instead of have localized microgrids run by private companies instead of state centralize grid for the whole country. This actually works in Somalia's favor because power outages are more easily contained and restored quickly.

And decentralized power generation = less reliance on a single grid, making it more resilient

But i believe it a lot has to do with because it is private it has reduced corruption and better efficiency.
Somali electricity companies continuously upgrade their infrastructure because they are profit-driven, they cannot afford outdated, inefficient systems.

In countries like Kenya and Ethiopia, government run electricity companies suffer from corruption, mismanagement, and political interference.

State controlled power monopolies often refuse to upgrade infrastructure, leading to frequent blackouts, rationing, and energy crises.

Somalia avoids this problem because there is no government monopoly on power, only private companies competing to provide the best service.
Basically, to put it simply. No government inefficiency means better service delivery.
 
@Barkhadle1520 Going back to your first post, if you look at that picture, when it comes to distributed/decentralized systems there is no assumption that solar power alone is expected to run the entire country. What’s actually being rolled out is a hybrid system, where energy comes from multiple sources (gas/diesel, nuclear, wind, solar, thermal, geothermal, etc.), all combined and tied to battery storage.

Somalia now has a unique advantage going forward because its grid system and infrastructure have been built to be scalable, low-cost, reliable, and future-ready.

Meanwhile, local electricity access in countries like Kenya is still very poor due to their reliance on a centralized national grid:




Because each plant or area relies on a single energy source makes it problematic as well because there is no back up or way to switch to another source:

The problem with these centralized setups is that each plant or region often relies on a single energy source, leaving no backup or flexibility to switch to another. Hydropower, wind, and other renewables are especially vulnerable to weather and seasonal changes:



Both countries have constant power outages.

In Ethiopia:


By contrast, in Somalia you don’t see reports of widespread blackouts or communities living next to power plants without electricity. Power runs continuously throughout the year, thanks to the decentralized microgrid model and hybrid systems supported by battery storage.

I’d even argue Somalia’s electricity infrastructure is actually more modernized, since it’s continuously updated and expanded. As I explained in another thread months ago:
I agree that energy sources need to be diversified but I highly doubt your claim that electricity is way cheaper now, maybe in xamar it went down a bit
 
@Barkhadle1520 Going back to your first post, if you look at that picture, when it comes to distributed/decentralized systems there is no assumption that solar power alone is expected to run the entire country. What’s actually being rolled out is a hybrid system, where energy comes from multiple sources (gas/diesel, nuclear, wind, solar, thermal, geothermal, etc.), all combined and tied to battery storage.

Somalia now has a unique advantage going forward because its grid system and infrastructure have been built to be scalable, low-cost, reliable, and future-ready.


Meanwhile, local electricity access in countries like Kenya is still very poor due to their reliance on a centralized national grid:

Because each plant or area relies on a single energy source makes it problematic as well because there is no back up or way to switch to another source.

The problem with these centralized setups is that each plant or region often relies on a single energy source, leaving no backup or flexibility to switch to another. Hydropower, wind, and other renewables are especially vulnerable to weather and seasonal changes:



Both countries have constant power outages.

In Ethiopia it really hits households hard:


By contrast, in Somalia you don’t see reports of widespread blackouts or communities living next to power plants without electricity. Power runs continuously throughout the year, thanks to the decentralized microgrid model and hybrid systems supported by battery storage and access reaches people because it's localized.

I’d even argue Somalia’s electricity infrastructure is actually more modernized, since it’s continuously updated and expanded. As I explained in another thread months ago:
Where is that first picture from ? Also are you saying the electricity data is also under estimated or something

I agree that decentralized is better, but thermal energy needs to be scrapped its too inefficient and expensive; wind and natural gas are good alternatives
 

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