The only solution to all of Somalia' s problem

[Dr.Xayawaan]

"The Islamic Courts Union (ICU) was a legal and political organization founded by Muslim clerics from the Abgal subclan of the powerful Hawiye clan that operated from 2000 to 2006 in Mogadishu.

These Islamic courts adjudicated personal status and criminal law matters according to Islamic law (shari’a).

Because they were backed by clan-based ICU militias, they were extremely effective in maintaining order.


The only governance which allowed Somalis to come together unanimously and establish peace, growth and stability in the region.



Democracy iyo baalayo will not help the somali people, it's kufr upon kufr and will lead you to the hell fire.



And so judge (you O Muhammad) among them by what Allaah has revealed and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they turn you (O Muhammad) far away from some of that which Allaah has sent down to you. And if they turn away, then know that Allaah’s Will is to punish them for some sins of theirs. And truly, most of men are Faasiqoon (rebellious and disobedient to Allaah).

Do they then seek the judgement of (the days of) Ignorance? And who is better in judgement than Allaah for a people who have firm Faith”

[al-Maa'idah 5:49, 50]

The scholars stated that referring to Bedouin laws, tribal customs, or any other code for that matter that happens to contravene the sharee’ah is kufr.

Shaykh Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem rahimahullah said:
The sixth (type of major kufr with regard to referring to laws for judgement) is the law by which many of the heads of Bedouin clans and tribes rule, based on the sayings of their forefathers and their customs which they call their saloom, which they inherited from them and they judge by it and refer to it for judgement in the event of disputes, based on the rulings of Jaahiliyyah or turning away from the rulings of Allaah and His Messenger. There is no power and no strength except with Allaah.

Any smelly unhygenic gaalo or undercover agnostic westernized or faraax's opinion holds no weight, enjoy jahannam kuffar.

 

[Kaafiye]

That’s a load of garbage. The Islamist Courts of 2006 only governed Mogadishu for 6 months, and they were full of terrorists, authoritarians, and extremists.

The Islamic Courts Union comprised many different groups with their own motivations. Even if the Ethiopians hadn’t invaded, its almost certain that they fight amongst themselves. And the only reason why there isn’t peace in Mogadishu today is because of those SAME individuals who created “peace” in Mogadishu briefly in 2006.

Nothing would’ve changed. In fact, Somalis would be oppressed by tyrants who interfere in people’s personal lives in the name of Islam

 

[Dr.Xayawaan]

That’s a load of garbage. The Islamist Courts of 2006 only governed Mogadishu for 6 months, and they were full of terrorists, authoritarians, and extremists.

The Islamic Courts Union comprised many different groups with their own motivations. Even if the Ethiopians hadn’t invaded, its almost certain that they fight amongst themselves. And the only reason why there isn’t peace in Mogadishu today is because of those SAME individuals who created “peace” in Mogadishu briefly in 2006.

Nothing would’ve changed. In fact, Somalis would be oppressed by tyrants who interfere in people’s personal lives in the name of Islam

That’s a load of garbage. The Islamist Courts of 2006 only governed Mogadishu for 6 months, and they were full of terrorists, authoritarians, and extremists.

The Islamic Courts Union comprised many different groups with their own motivations. Even if the Ethiopians hadn’t invaded, its almost certain that they fight amongst themselves. And the only reason why there isn’t peace in Mogadishu today is because of those SAME individuals who created “peace” in Mogadishu briefly in 2006.

Nothing would’ve changed. In fact, Somalis would be oppressed by tyrants who interfere in people’s personal lives in the name of Islam

Forget about the duration, that short stint is the most peaceful period ever since the big war in the late 80s.

They comprised the extreme khawarijj which is al shaabab yes but the bulk of the authorities of ICU were not extreme but were lenient in dealing with the affairs of the people.

The extremists have an agenda and use shariah and Islam as an intimidation tool to govern and loot the land hence why if you call them out they will kill you instead of having a conversation ( which is the sharia way).



" intervene in personal lives ", if you claim Islam if you claim shaahadah you have to submit to Allah's laws and obey his governance.

It seems like you like to indulge in haram and like the freedom and immoral acts you can perform under democracy hence why you're acting very defensive when the call for sharia is being discussed.

Don't try to cover up your hate for the shariah and the deen by making indirect hints and associating anyone that calls to sharia with extremist khawarijj, any serious muslim knows that shaabab are not for the interest of somali people but they are a bunch of warlords who use islam as a tool for their personal gains.


Filthy gaal detected

 

[Kaafiye]

I’m a “filthy gaal” for pointing out that the Islamic Courts Union was comprised of terrorists, which you JUST admitted? What kind of sane Political group allows terrorist groups to exist in their midst?

Al Shabab revealed the true face of the ICU, which is that of extremism. The type of men to search through your personal phone in hopes of finding something incriminating (such as a woman’s name in your Contacts that isn’t your relative). That’s the kind of people we’re dealing with. Authoritarian dictators

 

[Farah072]

What a filthy load of hogwash. Your name suits you well. First and foremost ICU was filled with the most extremists. The people you call “moderates” weren’t really moderates they were more like enablers. They fully knew the extremists they were in bed with like Hassan Dahir Aweys who had been listed as a terrorist by the West in 2001. He led the ICU military wing which was Al Shabab. Then you have Al-Turki who was another military leader of ICU who went on to form the Ras Komboni Militia terrorists after its fall.

From the mid 90s to the early 2000s the ICU was just a series of courts based in 1 part of Mogadishu. Then Sheikh Sharif came and they started their wars against the clan militias that had controlled Mogadishu. After finally defeating all the clan militias in mid 2006 they declared ownership of Mogadishu. It’s simply a lie that ICUs early history had no violence. They had brutal battles against the Hawiye militias which included extra judicial killings.

It’s impossible to say what ICU government would have turned out like for sure since they only had power in Mogadishu from June - December 2006. They still had other parts of southern Somalia they were looking to control before they could implement their policies but one thing is for sure with the terrorists controlling its militia its logical to deduce the “moderates” were just figureheads.

The ICU was linked with Al Qaeda through Hassan dahir aweys and Al-Turki. Just because they didnt blow things up after killing the Hawiye militias and their families does not mean they would have been good rulers.

 

[Farah072]

I’m a “filthy gaal” for pointing out that the Islamic Courts Union was comprised of terrorists, which you JUST admitted? What kind of sane Political group allows terrorist groups to exist in their midst?

Al Shabab revealed the true face of the ICU, which is that of extremism. The type of men to search through your personal phone in hopes of finding something incriminating (such as a woman’s name in your Contacts that isn’t your relative). That’s the kind of people we’re dealing with. Authoritarian dictators

Honestly sometimes it’s not hard to understand why Somalia has had trouble stabilizing for close to 30 years now when you see some people think an Al Shabab Government is actually a good thing. The only good thing about ICU/al Shabab is their anti Qabiil stance. Other than that Islamic extremism has no place in developed worlds. Imagine what Saudi Arabia would be without their oil....

A more moderate Islamic Government is ideal to me.

 

[Dr.Xayawaan]

I’m a “filthy gaal” for pointing out that the Islamic Courts Union was comprised of terrorists, which you JUST admitted? What kind of sane Political group allows terrorist groups to exist in their midst?

Al Shabab revealed the true face of the ICU, which is that of extremism. The type of men to search through your personal phone in hopes of finding something incriminating (such as a woman’s name in your Contacts that isn’t your relative). That’s the kind of people we’re dealing with. Authoritarian dictators

No you're a not a filthy gaal for pointing out that there were a few khawarijj amongst good men who wanted to establish the deen in somalia a MUSLIM country.


You're a gaal because your hatred for sharia is evident, I've seen you praising caadan gaal politicians, the same ones that bomb your country folk.


Your an advocate for democracy and kufr immoral man-made laws which automatically takes you outside the fold, don't try and twist the narrative by bringing the khawarijj into this, they were undercover in the ICU, no one knew who they were.

When the ICU fell off they branched out and founded the kharjii group today.


You keep going on about " authoritarian " " dictators " these are the terms sharia-haters use to justify their desire to live under kufr law and commit all types of kufr without anyone calling them out and batting an eye-lid.


Yeah and you also called evidence from the Quran/Sunnah " garbage " which adds to your kufr you arrogant bahal tfff.

 

[Dr.Xayawaan]

Look at all the gaal democracy lovers getting butthurt/triggered Alhamdulillah you came out of your caves you disgusting disgraceful individuals.

 

[Farah072]

What a filthy al Shabab lover we have here. Disgusting wallahi. Let me know which country you reside in so I can alert their intelligence services of a potential al Shabab fighter

 

[Kaafiye]

Lol since when did YOU become the arbiter of what’s right and what’s wrong?

I reject you, I reject your interpretation of Islamic Law, and I would actively go to war with you to prevent folks like yourself from ever gaining power in Somalia.

According to this fool, searching people’s personal belongings and violating their privacy is okay, since it’s supposedly “Shariah compliant”. It’s okay to ban Somali women from wearing bras and these Shabab militias actually TOUCH STRANGER WOMEN to ensure that they’re not wearing bras under their clothing. But yeah, these folks are the ambassadors of Islam. f*ck outta here

 

[Kaafiye]

What a filthy al Shabab lover we have here. Disgusting wallahi. Let me know which country you reside in so I can alert their intelligence services of a potential al Shabab fighter

Literally

I don’t understand why Al Shabab supporters aren’t having their heads blown off. I would volunteer to do it myself. We have Al Shabab-filled prisons in Somalia. Actual terrorists. Why aren’t these men being killed?

Make an example out of them

Let’s see if these terrorists are willing to die for their beliefs.

 

[Farah072]

Where have I stated that I support khawarijj you kadaab I support full blown out sharia not democracy, enjoy jahannam .

Yes it’s gonna be hot for you down there. You are in bed with ICU which was an extremist group. You have just booked your long stay in Hotel Iblis

 

[Farah072]

Literally

I don’t understand why Al Shabab supporters aren’t having their heads blown off. I would volunteer to do it myself. We have Al Shabab-filled prisons in Somalia. Actual terrorists. Why aren’t these men being killed?

Make an example out of them

Let’s see if these terrorists are willing to die for their beliefs.

Somalis are not hard on terrorists that’s why. We need a cultural revolution badly. Somehow our free thinking ways regressed starting somewhere in the 1970s. Maybe after the failed 77 war people took it as a sign from Allah and had crazy ideas of why we weren’t granted victory. I truly do not know

 

[Kaafiye]

President Donald Trump is bombing your terrorist friends out in rural Southern Somalia.

Let’s see if you go and join them. If so, I’m hoping that a Predator drone would fly in and send you and your terrorist friends to HellFire. You won’t be missed.

 

[Kaafiye]

It’s like we lost our confidence as a people.

We should line up every single Al-Shabab member and supporter, and blow their heads off. Make sure you film it.

Anyone who covers for Al Shabab, finances Al Shabab, transports for Al Shabab, or propagandizes on behalf of this group should be lined up and shot.

Every single one of them. I don’t care if you’re an old woman or a Dugsi Macaalin, if you materially benefit this terrorist group then you should die. Somalis aren’t hard enough on terrorists and that needs to change.

We need a new President who’s not afraid to lay down the law, a President who’s not afraid to execute thousands of people, a President who imprisons anyone who even defends this terrorist group.