The new Abdullahi Yusuf

[Barkhadle1520]

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[livinlavish]

Still not as bad as AY. If he invites ethiopian troops to kismaayo to fight against madobe and turn it into a wasteland, then he will be on his level. But he is getting there

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Still not as bad as AY. If he invites ethiopian troops to kismaayo to fight against madobe and turn it into a wasteland, then he will be on his level. But he is getting there

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[livinlavish]

Ethiopian troops are already all over somalia, not only that but the whole government's existence still depends on them do you realize how bad that is

Cherry on top, theyre fuelling conflict between fgs and fms like with jubaland, and they also shell SNA positions whenever they want

Honestly too many things to say about HSM at this point we could write a whole damn book, but I agree hes never gonna be worse than AY, no one can be as bad as abdullahi yusuf he has been sabotaging somalis since 77, he is the devil incarnate

If HSM uses those same ethiopian troops posted in gedo to go to Kismaayo and invade it, then he will be no doubt as bad as AY. I hope AS karbaashes the xabashis more so they f*ck off the fgs and JL troops dont have the heart to fight them they only know how to fight each other

 

[Neptune]

It's been almost 20 years since his presidency. Always reminiscing about past leadership instead of addressing the current reality. If not him, then it's Siad. Time to move on.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

well had it not been for Abdullahi Yusuf (AUN) you wouldn’t have a somalia to speak of. He was fighting your corner at great expense to PL, had a more ruthless and pragmatic ruler sat in the presidency of PL we would literally be independent.

And I say this as a relative of his.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

well had it not been for Abdullahi Yusuf (AUN) you wouldn’t have a somalia to speak of. He was fighting your corner at great expense to PL, had a more ruthless and pragmatic ruler sat in the presidency of PL we would literally be independent.

And I say this as a relative of his.

I believe somali are the worst people in the world they destroy the country at the same time blaming Ethiopia for thier own destruction

 

[Libaax-Joore]

President Abdullah Yusuf AUN saved hawiye from alqaida terriost well he neglected his own subclan beesha majerteen to make urur samaale human again

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

President Abdullah Yusuf AUN saved hawiye from alqaida terriost well he neglected his own subclan beesha majerteen to make urur samaale human again

He should've left them with their ICU terrorists and warlords. Put all his efforts in defending the southern border against ICU terrorists than using PL troops and resources to bringing governance back to Hawiye.

 

[livinlavish]

President Abdullah Yusuf AUN saved hawiye from alqaida terriost well he neglected his own subclan beesha majerteen to make urur samaale human again

Who told him to “save us”? We were content and had no problems with the ICU and we certainly didn’t need no help.

He should have sticked with PL affairs and worry about his own state no one told him to care about what was happening down south. And we certainly didn’t need no Ethiopian stooge to make us “human” again

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

Who told him to “save us”? We were content and had no problems with the ICU and we certainly didn’t need no help.

He should have sticked with PL affairs and worry about his own state no one told him to care about what was happening down south. And we certainly didn’t need no Ethiopian stooge to make us “human” again

ICU wanted an islamic state based on their interpretation of Sharia law in all of Somalia. That includes PL and SL. They were always going to go up north.

 

[livinlavish]

ICU wanted an islamic state based on their interpretation of Sharia law in all of Somalia. That includes PL and SL. They were always going to go up north.

ICUs goal was to create a unified Somali islamic state which included all of Somaliweyn, i dont see no issue with that. There were plenty of people in waqooyi who supported the ICU. You guys will probably argue that the ICU were qabilists because most of the leadership were Hawiye, but wouldn’t that be expected, given that the majority of the areas they controlled were inhabited by Hawiye?

If the ICU did manage to control all of somaliweyn, the leadership would have reflected the demographics and therefore it would be diverse and not be 1 qabiil majority. Even the ONLF who were mostly darood supported the ICU and im sure they wouldn’t have if they knew that the ICU were a “qabiil movement”.

The ICU were a government, not a rogue clan militia or terrorist group. The 6 months that they fully controlled most of the south, were the most peaceful, stable and orderly 6 months that the konfuur had seen in a while. Crime plummeted, justice courts were functional, aid was being evenly distributed to areas outside of xamar and no there were no more warlords doing isbaaros.

Now im not saying the ICU were perfect but if they were given time to develop and mature, they would have been the best thing to ever happen to Somalia. In just 6 months they transformed xamar from being a lawless no-go zone into a functioning city with new infrastructure being built everyday and the reopening of many public services. Imagine what they would have done in 20 years? We wouldn’t have been in this mess we are in today, thats for sure.

 

[Saleh]

ICUs goal was to create a unified Somali islamic state which included all of Somaliweyn, i dont see no issue with that. There were plenty of people in waqooyi who supported the ICU. You guys will probably argue that the ICU were qabilists because most of the leadership were Hawiye, but wouldn’t that be expected, given that the majority of the areas they controlled were inhabited by Hawiye?

If the ICU did manage to control all of somaliweyn, the leadership would have reflected the demographics and therefore it would be diverse and not be 1 qabiil majority. Even the ONLF who were mostly darood supported the ICU and im sure they wouldn’t have if they knew that the ICU were a “qabiil movement”.

The ICU were a government, not a rogue clan militia or terrorist group. The 6 months that they fully controlled most of the south, were the most peaceful, stable and orderly 6 months that the konfuur had seen in a while. Crime plummeted, justice courts were functional, aid was being evenly distributed to areas outside of xamar and no there were no more warlords doing isbaaros.

Now im not saying the ICU were perfect but if they were given time to develop and mature, they would have been the best thing to ever happen to Somalia. In just 6 months they transformed xamar from being a lawless no-go zone into a functioning city with new infrastructure being built everyday and the reopening of many public services. Imagine what they would have done in 20 years? We wouldn’t have been in this mess we are in today, thats for sure.

I have nothing against the ICU but I can see why many people dislike them. Arsenal is an offshoot of an ICU wing

 

[livinlavish]

I have nothing against the ICU but I can see why many people dislike them. Arsenal is an offshoot of an ICU wing

Your right but your forgetting that the AS we know of today was the result of the Ethiopian invasion. They got radicalised by the invasion and turned into the khawarijs of today. If Ethiopia didn’t invade the south then there wouldnt have been no khawarijs in Somalia, and thats a fact.

 

[TheLand]

ICU wanted an islamic state based on their interpretation of Sharia law in all of Somalia. That includes PL and SL. They were always going to go up north.

Some of these kids don’t understand that AY was elected President in 2004 by southern mooriyaan and warlords. Ofcourse he was always going to head down south. He was elected precisely for that reason because the mooriyaan wouldnt allow Cabdiqaasim Salad into villa Somalia even though he was their literal cousin.

 

[Zak12]

ICUs goal was to create a unified Somali islamic state which included all of Somaliweyn

I have yet to see any evidence that the ICU wanted to rule over all of Somalia let alone the Somali region and NFD. Their chief concern was to get rid of the warlords and stablize the south. ICU spokespeople have mentioned numerous times that they are only willing to engage in dialogue with other Somali states and in the case of Ethiopia. self defence.