The Kuffar Have No Explanation

After talking to many disbelievers, I have realized that none of them can explain the origins of the universe, where objective morality comes from or what the meaning/purpose of life is. They are sad nihilists!
 

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After talking to many disbelievers, I have realized that none of them can explain the origins of the universe, where objective morality comes from or what the meaning/purpose of life is. They are sad nihilists!

Why does a Woman wear Hijab, did Allah make a mistake and Muslims have to cover it up lol. It's a joke bro but it's a joke with some profound meaning behind it. If your god is so perfect, you wouldn't need halal or haram, everything would be good and perfect, obviously it isn't, so your god makes mistake, and if he make mistakes, he can't be god. Your basically in double whammy situation no matter how you respond or how you try to 'twist' it back to Islam favor.

You use your position as believer due to majority priveledge, you stand no chance in a debate against spiritualist like me or even atheists or agnostics since we use 'science' framework. Only @Lord of Warshiekh could hang a bit since he understand the reliability of our framework for accuracy since the whole world you see around you and even the laptop you speak on came due to science
 

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Why does a Woman wear Hijab, did Allah make a mistake and Muslims have to cover it up lol. It's a joke bro but it's a joke with some profound meaning behind it. If your god is so perfect, you wouldn't need halal or haram, everything would be good and perfect, obviously it isn't, so your god makes mistake, and if he make mistakes, he can't be god. Your basically in double whammy situation no matter how you respond or how you try to 'twist' it back to Islam favor.

You use your position as believer due to majority priveledge, you stand no chance in a debate against spiritualist like me or even atheists or agnostics since we use 'science' framework. Only @Lord of Warshiekh could hang a bit since he understand the reliability of our framework for accuracy since the whole world you see around you and even the laptop you speak on came due to science
Since when did you become a gaal
 
Why does a Woman wear Hijab, did Allah make a mistake and Muslims have to cover it up lol. It's a joke bro but it's a joke with some profound meaning behind it. If your god is so perfect, you wouldn't need halal or haram, everything would be good and perfect, obviously it isn't, so your god makes mistake, and if he make mistakes, he can't be god. Your basically in double whammy situation no matter how you respond or how you try to 'twist' it back to Islam favor.

You use your position as believer due to majority priveledge, you stand no chance in a debate against spiritualist like me or even atheists or agnostics since we use 'science' framework. Only @Lord of Warshiekh could hang a bit since he understand the reliability of our framework for accuracy since the whole world you see around you and even the laptop you speak on came due to science
The Quran doesn't state this world is perfect, noor that Allah intended to create it so. I honestly can't see how your argument applies to Islam.
 

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Since when did you become a gaal

I never did, but I explore all positions for and against and apply scientific model. I am using Atheist arguments to see how 'triggered' the believers get on-line. See when on-line and in the west, they are 'equalized' with the 'gaal' and notice the 'silence' on believer part? but when he in Saudi or Somalia, he has government support, that's why he needs to control the government, his belief doesn't stand or pass any test. The quran said clearly, ALWAYS test what anyone 'teaches' you. Do not blindly follow, he could be satan that sheikh u listen too. Why you scared to test him? you just going to believe his 'words' which can be made up? I believe the Islam Somalia practises today is FALSEHOOD, they need to revert back to andalusia texts and scholars when Islam was peaceful and it's because they were 'excelling' in science.

Once we can adopt science into Somalia, religion will tone down sxb like Andalusia did and Baghdad and Syria. It only gets extreme in poverty, ghetto lifestyles like the dark ages of europe or the dark ages of Syria and Iraq and Afghanistan or Somalia. Notice where all thes little terrorists operate waa 'dark age countries' just lik the 'crusaders' did in dark age europe. Bro I love science, it exposes them to the people and the people must decide then to follow falsehood or truth, that's a choice they must make, it's free will then.
 

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The Quran doesn't state this world is perfect, noor that Allah intended to create it so. I honestly can't see how your argument applies to Islam.

So Allah creation isn't perfect. So how can he the creator be 'perfect' when his creation is imperfect? No matter what side of the coin you argue, you will run into a logical dilemma. Either your god is imperfect and therefore not REALLY GOD and therefore his creation is imperfect or he is perfect god and if he is why are you going around covering women up, leave them how god created them in perfection. Why are you saying pig is haram or chasing them in Mogadishu like a barbarian lol when you should be sitting out working out the physic equation of a nuclear bomb, nah you just one of them dark age muslims aint you boy kkkkkk, your basically like a carbon copy of the crusader era of europe and the people who lived there. Go study them, they chased witches and juudaan too kkkkkk
 

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After talking to many disbelievers, I have realized that none of them can explain the origins of the universe, where objective morality comes from or what the meaning/purpose of life is. They are sad nihilists!

Al Kafi I will give u a Nihilist prayer kkkkk, say it like you say your 'fatiha' kkkkk. Every morning you wake up, look at that face of yours in the Mirror and repeat after me

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Always look at that face and remember it will convert to skeleton when buried and then eventual dust. You will become an element in earth, heck u may even become sheep fodder if the right rain and sun is applied to your portion of dust. You came from the earth, u shall return. There is no morality other then what you think or feel is right or wrong.

To find our your morality, you must 'test' it. Yes go commit murder, rape, steal, lie. Review do u feel guilty? can u sleep at night? if you can sleep at night, this indicates it's not your MORALITY, it was 'planted' by religion.

Finally look at that monkey next to you in the jungle and remember his your 'ina adeer' yep, evolution. Wanna come and see the anatomy and skeleton of monkey and compare it to yours, it's 96% similar, you share identical traits(internally and externally).
 
There is no morality other then what you think or feel is right or wrong.

Joseph Stalin murdered millions of people and he felt it was the right thing to do. According to your logic, there is nothing wrong with what he did since he felt it was right
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Thank Allah for Islam, if it wasn’t for him I would an immoral prick like you.
 

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Joseph Stalin murdered millions of people and he felt it was the right thing to do. According to your logic, there is nothing wrong with what he did since he felt it was right
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Thank Allah for Islam, if it wasn’t for him I would an immoral prick like you.

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I am impressed with @Al Kafi he knows the different spritual and morality position. He immediately identified I don't have a 'personal god' after I demnstrated my argument. I never mad this point so I do not startle the audience and lead them slowly to the non personal god.

I am showing how we are DUST essenttially, we are relatives of monkey and primates, I am stripping away any importance this personal god has taught you. I am teaching them to look at themselves as NOT IMPORTANT, we need to take away this belief or idea there is some importance to you. I even demonstrated how people bury people and keep moving forward, even animals do, the world doesn't stop when you die.

All of these points is make the Somali and Muslim brain switch from this 'your created, have soul, and allah loves u' towards the NIHILIST VALUE CODE AND PERSPECTIVE. Wallahi Al Kafi spotted it in my first thread and called me out on it.

He knows what I am fighting against. A personal god and this idea he really gives two shits a bout you. Look at the universe, why would he care about your dusty remain when he supposebly created all this.

So congratulations Al Kafi boy. Yes I don't believe I am important, special, or there is any moral code beyond 'natural law' of the animals, I will cut a long story short for you. It's natural law that guides our morality. As for our individual values, we need to 'test n try' and confirm with our feelings afterwards not learn it thru madrassa.

YAA Look at this nigga explode when Nihilist and non Personal god followers enter, I think he groups us with Atheist but maybe not as Al Kafi is very aware of the 'special' differences between theists and atheists. He is right about one thing Al KAFI, nihilism and non personal god isn't something people like to hear, he wants to hear ' stories' of heaven and hell and vengeful god and all of that. We are like tha 'doctor' you hate when he gives you vaccination, you know the doctor is boring to visit but you also knows his work is REAL. That's how I consider non personal god and nihilist value system.
 

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@Al Kafi knows when he encounters a nihilist we are mostly of this sort of view point and lifestyle.

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We don't have heaven and hell and angels and satan stories for you buddy. We just tell you, you turn to dust and join the earth and possibly a sheep stomach when he eats your grassy remains. We preach 'life goes on' I will be buried and so u will and these people will keep moving forward without us, they will forget us after a week. Welcome to Nihilism Somaliyay, I didn't t want to teach you this moral perspective, because a-lot of Deists and one god believers who don't think god spends all his day monitoring our prayers, beards, hijabs, and eating with 3 fingers. We are formidable challenge position for the RADICAL ISLAMISTS OR LITERALISTS.
 
The Quran doesn't state this world is perfect, noor that Allah intended to create it so. I honestly can't see how your argument applies to Islam.

Why is he punishing us for being imperfect? He can take away all hardship but chooses not to. Does he get pleasure from our suffering?
 

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Why is he punishing us for being imperfect? He can take away all hardship but chooses not to. Does he get pleasure from our suffering?
Does a goldsmith not seek perfection for burning the gold in order to remove its impurities? We too are gold for God and only those whom he tests can gain his Grace. And turn into gold
 
Does a goldsmith not seek perfection for burning the gold in order to remove its impurities? We too are gold for God and only those whom he tests can gain his Grace. And turn into gold

Allah isn’t a just god. He chooses a certain few and leaves the rest to rot. Since he has control over everything, why doesn’t he make all of us pure? He could easily erase poverty, racism, and every other issue humans have. He leaves us to suffer in his imperfect world. Does he get off on our pain?
 
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Allah isn’t a just god. He chooses a certain few and leaves the rest to rot. Since he has control over everything, why doesn’t he make all of us pure? He could easily erase poverty, racism, and every other issue humans have. He leaves us to suffer in his imperfect world. Does he get off on our pain?
You cant question Allah SWT, he does what he wills, and needs no justification from you. You willingly choose hell if you go against him. Dont blame God.
 
You cant question Allah SWT, he does what he wills, and needs no justification from you. You willingly choose hell if you go against him. Dont blame God.

You haven’t answered one question of mine. You went back to the whole believe or be forsaken. Anyways, what makes you think that your religion is the right one? There are thousands of religions in the world.
 

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You haven’t answered one question of mine. You went back to the whole believe or be forsaken. Anyways, what makes you think that your religion is the right one? There are thousands of religions in the world.
Islam is true because I just know deep down in my conciousness that the Lord, God is the absolute truth and Nabi Muhammad is the true messenger. I hope my faith is never taken away from me. Its so valuable and shall be my only salvation on the day I die. Its called the third eye or inner spirtual eye. I can feel the spirtual presence within me for man's essence, the soul is not from this world
 

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Why does a Woman wear Hijab, did Allah make a mistake and Muslims have to cover it up lol. It's a joke bro but it's a joke with some profound meaning behind it. If your god is so perfect, you wouldn't need halal or haram, everything would be good and perfect, obviously it isn't, so your god makes mistake, and if he make mistakes, he can't be god. Your basically in double whammy situation no matter how you respond or how you try to 'twist' it back to Islam favor.

You use your position as believer due to majority priveledge, you stand no chance in a debate against spiritualist like me or even atheists or agnostics since we use 'science' framework. Only @Lord of Warshiekh could hang a bit since he understand the reliability of our framework for accuracy since the whole world you see around you and even the laptop you speak on came due to science

is this your "superior enlightenment"? basically adopting cookie cutter white person "enlightenment" ideology?

and that's funny you cite Muslim Spain as a model.... maybe you wouldn't do so if you had lived there when Los Reyes Católicos were in power and Muslims had to convert to Catholicism or leave Spain
 

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