The Kaffir Has Chosen The Dunya Over The Deen
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Al Kafi
WAR
Allah is the standard of good and bad, he is the judge of what true mercy is. It is only your opinion that you think shirk doesn’t deserve eternal punishment, but Allah cares not about your opinion, he cares for truth. And Allah is the source of truth.
Allah is supposedly merciful but will burn people in hell for all of eternity for not worshipping him, never granting them to die from their physical pain but will revive them over and over again to burn them to a crisp. Nobody but mass murders like hitler deserves to be burned for all eternity-(and even then it’s a extreme). Sounds like a sadistic god.
I agree. If Allah has control over everything, why doesn’t he make everyone Muslim? Why does he make us flawed to begin with? He does nothing to free us from our pain and just watches us. Is his purpose to torture us? Why does he prefer a murderer to a kind selfless individual?
Why doesn’t Allah just control us then? Why does he give humans free will in the first place if only his truth matters?
If allah exists in the way he’s described in the Quran, we’re basically his SIMs. I’ll give you the freedom to choose but if you don’t choose the way I want you to choose ( and oh I’ve also provided you no evidence of my existence btw, better just hope you’re born into correct religion lol), then I’ll burn you for all eternity in hell fire till you’re begging for the mercy of death which I of course will not grant you
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Al Kafi
WAR
Again, this is simply your opinion. Who are you to say what someone deserve or doesn’t deserve? Allah is not someone of opinion, he is a being of truth. The objective judge of all things. Allah has set the standard of mercy in the Qur’an and you cannot redefine it. Enjoy your days in the eternal hellfire you dirty kuffar
Al Kafi
WAR
What does that have anything to do with what I’m saying? The thick skulled idiot said that in his OPINION, people shouldn’t be sent to hell for eternity and in his OPINION, a merciful God wouldn’t do that. However, an opinion isn’t an argument against Allah because Allah is the all knowing and the objective judge of all things. He is the one that gets to decide what is merciful and what’s not, who does and doesn’t deserve a certain kind of punishment. Anything outside of Allah is human subjectivity, which is worth nothing to him.
Also, why wouldn’t he give us freedom to choose? This isn’t inconsistent with his nature at all! Allahu Ahkbar !!!!
Let me ask you this....Name a place where is there is no injustice ?
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In creating human beings, Allah desired to make creatures who would freely love and serve him. The “Love” of a robot who can do nothing else is not worth much. True freedom involves great risk but also the possibility of great good that can be achieved in no other way.
Shmurda
King Of NSFW
Just look at the circumstances some people are put in. They're raised by gaalo parents with no muslims around and when they die they never even heard anything about islam. Does someone like that deserve to go to hell when its clearly not their fault?
Shmurda
King Of NSFW
There is injustice everywhere i can't.
Well, If you don’t have a model for Justice, and you’ve never seen it, how can you say Allah is unjust ?
Shmurda
King Of NSFW
I can say it because any regular person can see that some aspects of his punishment are rather harsh
That’s your bias bro. One’s biases will vary depending upbringing, educational level, friends, location etc. For many believing Jews, the idea that Firaun and Haman will be fist pumping in Jannah after serving some time in hell is against Allah’s nature.
Do you fear hell and punishment and is the reason you believe in God? it seems like all your arguments center around not being punished in the fire. So you fear the 'creation' cause hell is a creation right? so you fear that and argue your not 'idolatrous', you are idolatorous as you fear something Allah created and thru this you believe only. Would u believe if there was no hell and the quran said there is no punishment for disbelief? no you wouldn't. See most of your faith is based on fear not 'science or knowledge'.
Let @Al Kafi get in here and lets shake up his faith in Islam which is also rooted in 'fear' not 'genuine belief'. U fear the creation of hell, wallahi if hell didn't exist, you would be pagan and disbeliever. Watch these niggas come in here and abuse me and think I am an atheist. I am not an atheist but using atheist arguments to test your BELIEF, not mine? I am already a believer, I have nothing to fear from atheists, only YOU DO cause your not grounded in science
وَٱتَّقُوا۟ ٱلنَّارَ ٱلَّتِىٓ أُعِدَّتْ لِلْكَٰفِرِينَ
And fear the Fire, which has been prepared for the disbelievers (3:131)
If you are truly a Muslim then this verse should be sufficient for you.
Only people who receive Quran knowledge aka knowledge of islam and deny them are the kaffirs people. Same goes for people who worship many gods (astaghfirullah) and deny the monotheism of Islam. People who didn't receive the knowledge of Quran or didn't know Islam while living isolated life or died before islam is revealed, will shall be given a test by The Greatest in Judgment Day. Have you sit down and think about how do you came into life? Why is there nothing before life? Why is everything in nature of earth perfect as if they are designed in way they should be? Why are all prophets in different era preaching the same thing?
@PirateJosper @Cilmi-doon none of your two have answered my question. You went into a 'tangent' about how the earth is created in structures and order or you went into a tangent about 'disbelievers will be punished in the fire'. The question was simple, are u believer because u fear 'punishment'? it's not a hard question to answer, why u dodge it? are you scared your 'faith' will come crumbling down and you will leave Islam and realize all your belief is centered around not being punished in the fire. Hell is 'creation'. Allah told you never to fear the creation.
So why u fear hell, even if it's big fire, you should never fear it, illahi ba ka wayn inaad tirahdo weeye hadad 'believer dhab tahay'. But if your weak believer of hypocrit, you will actually fear the fire itself and hell. See I am true believer, I don't fear hell, illahi ayaa abuurtay, illahi ayaa mar walbo ka wayn wax kasto.
@haramcadd just dodged the question all together, maybe the reason is, his faith is shaken or he is in denial and blocking it out. Don't worry we know when faith is about to collapse, it goes through 'blocking stage' you want to block the truth out and then finally it goes thru the 'shook' stage where u start to attack the poster or atheist.
So why u fear hell, even if it's big fire, you should never fear it, illahi ba ka wayn inaad tirahdo weeye hadad 'believer dhab tahay'. But if your weak believer of hypocrit, you will actually fear the fire itself and hell. See I am true believer, I don't fear hell, illahi ayaa abuurtay, illahi ayaa mar walbo ka wayn wax kasto.
@haramcadd just dodged the question all together, maybe the reason is, his faith is shaken or he is in denial and blocking it out. Don't worry we know when faith is about to collapse, it goes through 'blocking stage' you want to block the truth out and then finally it goes thru the 'shook' stage where u start to attack the poster or atheist.
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