The Garden Of Eden Is It Iraq?

[DR OSMAN]

We know 'physical' humans originated in Africa and east africa but where did 'intelligent human' originate? those early ppl were definitely hunter/gatherers who possibly didn't even have language as evident with 'sans bushmen' and language is a key foundation needed 4 knowledge to store, transmit, write, etc. The bible says location wise 'iraq' and the garden of eden is said to contain 'knowledge tree' and it's confirmed by archaelogy it's the 'cradle of knowledge'. Plus Bible also says language developed there which must precede knowledge obviously. Plus we know ppl who were absent from this mid-east area didn't even have modern language due to isolation.

I know we somalis refer to 'geed' or 'trees' a-lot in terms of expressing our words or information or poetry alot. Was the bible simply referring to the garden of eden and knowledge tree, as civilization and knowledge? I doubt it meant a physical tree where an apple was eaten lol, it has to hold a more complex deeper meaning then that since we know those early people were very poetic and not 'direct' with their words, like our culture kinda is till today. They would let u figure out the 'meaning' of their expression to test your intelligence rather then be direct.

The reading of ancient works requires a 'poetic' mind not a 21st century rigid 'germanaic' mind which lots of people use the western method lol. I say 'germanaic' cause after the fall of rome, they did a bantu expansion on their continent after the fall of rome even into parts of north africa, thats why all their royal families are related some-how and languages. We give bantu a bad wrap for wat essentially these germanaic did.

 

[Internet Nomad]

Have you ever heard of the mythical story Paradise Lost by John Milton in 1667.

The poem concerns the biblical story of the fall of man; the temptation of Adam and Eve by the fallen angel Satan and their expulsion from the Garden of Eden.

I like how they illustrate the Apple and what they mean by intelligence in this tale. Adam and Eve were created to be flawless beings in harmony with the garden, and they lived naked because there were no negative feelings such as lust. However, when they were duped into eating the apple, their hearts and souls were corrupted. Because of the embarrassment that came with the knowledge, they disguised their bodies and wore garments. They have evolved into human beings like us, with the ability to sin and have corruption in our hearts.

Whilst this story is one of kufr i appreciate it as a fictional tale as it even goes against standard christian teachings.

Listen to this description of the book if you are interested.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Have you ever heard of the mythical story Paradise Lost by John Milton in 1667.

The poem concerns the biblical story of the fall of man; the temptation of Adam and Eve by the fallen angel Satan and their expulsion from the Garden of Eden.

I like how they illustrate the Apple and what they mean by intelligence in this tale. Adam and Eve were created to be flawless beings in harmony with the garden, and they lived naked because there were no negative feelings such as lust. However, when they were duped into eating the apple, their hearts and souls were corrupted. Because of the embarrassment that came with the knowledge, they disguised their bodies and wore garments. They have evolved into human beings like us, with the ability to sin and have corruption in our hearts.

Whilst this story is one of kufr i appreciate it as a fictional tale as it even goes against standard christian teachings.

Listen to this description of the book if you are interested.

I find it ironic archaelogy proves iraq is the cradle of intelligence yet bible also places garden of eden there, it even says babylon is where languages developed and we know the ppl who were not apart of the out of africa to mid-east migration didn't develop this. It even says adam approached a 'tree of knowledge' or 'apple' yet all archaelogy shows an immediate boom in civilization around there plus all the migrations out kept their knowledge gains and reestablished to advance it in their continents.

 

[Internet Nomad]

I find it ironic archaelogy proves iraq is the cradle of intelligence yet bible also places garden of eden there, it even says babylon is where languages developed and we know the ppl who were not apart of the out of africa to mid-east migration didn't develop this. It even says adam approached a 'tree of knowledge' or 'apple' yet all archaelogy shows an immediate boom in civilization around there plus all the migrations out kept their knowledge gains and reestablished to advance it in their continents.

Tbh i think civilisation is much older than we think of.

Its just seems weird to me that humans were around for so long not doing anything new? It sounds completely alien to me.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Tbh i think civilisation is much older than we think of.
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Its just seems weird to me that humans were around for so long not doing anything new? It sounds completely alien to me.

The war on circumision raised my interest, I am always interested when there is a complete 'war' on something and it's one sided only. Maybe the early humans were not modern humans and not much different to animals, untill the intelligent human era in Iraq. Circumision seems like a 'ritual' once we established knowledge of a creator to use it to distinguish us from other archaic humans or apes who were still lost. Circumision is highly practised by afro-asiatic communities only is another thing to ponder.

U will see the shock n horror on somalis when they hear of uncirumized, they naturally switch to you must be not 'really human' or archaic humans of those days. They wud dismiss ur humanity as a whole so it must be linked to some GOD knowledge. It existed way before Islam also, this is from ancient egypt.

 

[Internet Nomad]

The war on circumision raised my interest, I am always interested when there is a complete 'war' on something and it's one sided only. Maybe the early humans were not modern humans and not much different to animals, untill the intelligent human era in Iraq. Circumision seems like a 'ritual' once we established knowledge of a creator to use it to distinguish us from other archaic humans or apes who were still lost. Circumision is highly practised by afro-asiatic communities only is another thing to ponder.

U will see the shock n horror on somalis when they hear of uncirumized, they naturally switch to you must be not 'really human' or archaic humans of those days. They wud dismiss ur humanity as a whole so it must be linked to some GOD knowledge. It existed way before Islam also, this is from ancient egypt.

Circumision is both a religious practice and hygiene practice. Jews,Muslims and Christians all perform circumision as it was practice that the prophets had done. Its a practice that is also found outside the abrahamic faiths. I don't know maybe it is some ancient wisdom behind this practice. I believe its sunnah.