The fall of Siad Barre (written by mokillem)

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This was not written by me but rather by Mokillem on the Somalia subreddit on Reddit today, I just found it very interesting and a very nice read. Hopefully we can have a civil discussion on the content and discuss his main thesis about the idea of "keeping the loyalty of your key supporters as a dictator"

"Prelog- My Analysis on why Siad Barre fell, its pretty long so be patient. Start- Many Somalis and non Somalis alike have theories on why Siad Barre’s brutal regime fell. The more tribalist and propaganda prone Somalis will flamboyantly exclaim it was because of his/her clan. The relatively more oppressed Somalis may claim he ‘lost’ support due to the brutal genocide orchestrated by his goons in Hargeisa , Northern Somalia. Some may go even further and infer divine intervention because of his atheist communist tendencies.

I however wish to take a different approach, a more non-sentimental approach. To understand the previous Somali government we must understand politics and with them some basic political rules. Essentially the most important one being “acquire the loyalty of your key supporters” this can be done through a variety of pathways however most if not all acquire a monetary fund. Its no surprise then a leader must acquire a country’s treasury to succeed. A second lesser but important rule is that a leader must keep the amount of supporters “needed” low and must be able to replace disloyal essentials(supporters needed to run the country) effectively.

If one follows these rules in an autocratic government ,or any government for that matter, he/she may have a chance at the beating the eternal game of politics. Of course there are a few other rules but we shall instead focus on the rules which Barre broke, principally what brought down his regime.

Flash back to 1969, Siad Barre takes over the democratically elected Somali government in a “bloodless” coup. He is a new player in the game of politics. As a military general he has complete control of military wing and most likely has bought of influential chieftains within Somalia. He furthermore began arresting democratically elected politicians, judges and other essentials as they would be detrimental to his regimes legitimacy and hence his existence. An observer must understand that politics is all about survival, a politician does what he needs to do to increase his political longevity. Siad here followed the two fundamental rules as he simultaneously reduced the number of essentials and bought off those that were needed.

Somalia, under Barre, didn’t effectively exploit its natural mineral resources and hence the government focused on taxation along with foreign aid. Through his communist aligned government he acquired hundreds of millions of “foreign aid” from the Soviet Union. He furthermore began mass literacy campaigns throughout his reign to increase productivity and hence increase taxation from agriculture etc. Under Barrre Somalia mass exported bananas , tobacco etc.A naïve person may assume that his literacy campaigns , taxation laws and what little infrastructure he built was a heartfelt gesture to the Somali populace. Such a person is just that, naïve, Barre needed to increase productivity so that the populace produced a larger amounts of agricultural goods at a higher rate. He could consequently then use his money to pay off his essentials. An unconvinced reader can just look at the state of Somalis from 1969 to 1991.Infrastructure was dismal and there was next to no sewage substructure throughout the country. Barre understood that it wasn’t the people who would keep him in power but rather his essentials. He lavished millions of foreign aid and taxation on his essentials while most of the Somali population was in poverty . Barre , was playing by the political rules to the point, he certainly was an intelligent autocrat.

The rampant poverty within the country had the added effect of forcing essentials to stay extremely loyal to the leader. Any essential who tried to defect would find himself in the midst of such poverty and misery, if any essential wanted to keep his luxury apartments, jet skis, scholarships and Cuban cigars he needed to stay loyal to “jaale” Siad. Barre understood that he needed a large pool of recruits to quickly replace any disloyal essential and hence promoted a merit / loyalty propaganda campaign. Any one could be close to the dear leader as long as they were more loyal than an incumbent essential, this resulted in everyone fighting for his neck in the government. Barre was consolidating his power and nowhere was his genius at politics more noticeable but in the 1977 war between the autocratic regimes of Ethiopia and Somalia.

Fast forward to 1977, war broke out between Ethiopia and Somalia. Ethiopia was an ancient enemy in the hearts of all Somalis , mainly because they occupied most of “Western Somali” , current day Ogaden region of Ethiopia. This ancient hatred for Ethiopia coupled with large amounts of propaganda funnelled out through state owned radio and televisions set both countries on a collision course. However the war in the eyes of Barre and most current political analysts was a resource war, The Ogaden was rich with natural resources and the ancient right of Somalis was simply an excuse for the real reason.The war in the end was a loss for the Somali people but a win for Barre.

Barre attacked with lightning speed against the Ethiopian regime. He took over large swathes of land in an instant and for a second looked as if he would overrun the politically divided and hence militarily divided Ethiopia. However Barre was an autocrat and like any autocrat he was thinking not of the present but of the future. A period of war is a great time in which an internal coup may arise to overthrow a distracted regime. Barre kept the most advanced forms of weaponry close to the real battlefield, right in Mogadishu. He gave the best weapons primarily to the most loyal instead of the most deserving, a recount of Abdullahi Yusuf( Somali military commander) as he neared the capital of Ethiopia states that he asked for a higher amount of advanced weaponry but was rejected. To a novice in politics this is counterintuitive but to any politician it was genius. Siad was crushed eventually by a joint Soviet, Cuban and Ethiopian offensive, thousands of Somalis perished but this had no impact on his world view. Instead his political genius allowed him to crush the coup that occurred in the year of 1978. A textbook case where war is simply the continuation of politics.

For Barre the war was not a failure but a success, the Soviets abandoned him which garnered the watchful eyes of the USA. USA began sending hundreds of millions in foreign aid to Barre in exchange for loyalty against the Communist regime, Barre understood that without funds he couldn’t pay his essentials and hence would be overthrown in an instant. Luckily for him the USA had no problem sending him aid in all forms for loyalty , he spent most of the aid on himself and his loyal essentials. The populace and the country was of no real concern to him , even though thousands were killed by his recklessness, all forms of resistance was crushed using a military funded by their own money. He was playing directly by the book, Siad ruled for another 15 years siphoning off billions of funds from the mouths of the people to the bellies of the essentials.

Barres increasingly harsh stance had the consequence of public anger and disgust. New factions arose throughout the country some funded by the Ethiopian regime while others were a grass roots Somali movement. The SNM was one of these movements and was based in northern Somalia. Barre , who was now politically stable, simply crushed the movement and many other movements to prolong his hand in power. The SNM controlled northern Somalia’s villages along with the areas around major cities. They thus formed an effective guerrilla movement, the height of their power was seen when they laid siege successfully to Hargeisa. After taking over Hargeisa , Barre understood that he must destroy the rebels instantly or he would face an extreme threat to his authority. With the money meant to feed the people of Somalia he bombed the SNM along with the people of Hargeisa to oblivion. A dull reader who is thinking sentimentally might say this was a large factor in his downfall, however I argue against that. This , for an autocratic regime, was the right move. He paid off his essentials to help successfully destroy a rebel movement and massacred potential enemies arising from sympathy for the rebels. Barre ruled for another 4 years with an iron fist. As the Soviet Union collapsed USA began to criticise the human rights abuses by the government of Somalia. The USA had no need to support a dictator who was spending millions of their dollars on propping up his shabby regime along with one who was prolonging the suffering of the Somali populace. The foreign aid sent to Barres government was reduced to zilch and this was a major problem for Barre. Anybody who has been paying attention can see the problem, Barre didn’t have enough revenue arising from agricultural exports and other taxation pathways. Hence Barre was short on money, this meant he wouldn’t be able to pay his essentials lavishly. The result was that he broke one of the most important rules of politics.

Not long after his foreign aid revenue was drastically reduced revolutions occurred throughout the country, these revolutions occurred because the essentials of the military wing fractured along clan lines. With no effective military the Somali people forced the tyrant away from his stronghold of Mogadishu. Siad Barre lasted 22 years in power, his downfall was that of many leaders before him and indirectly prolonged the civil war in Somalia for 26 years…. The lack of revenue."
 

RasCanjero-

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Same reason contemporary Somali leaders can't get shit done...no revenue.

If only they focused on increasing domestic productivity like all autocratic leaders worth their salt then they could rule for as long as they want.

Well as long as the bigger powers don't want you out.
 

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Barre didn't massacre the enemy hard enough. US backstabbed him

Communist system is the best
 
Snm are pound for pound the most successful freedom fighters of all time. It really is a miracle what they achieved. The odds against them where HUGE to say the least. May the creator of the heavens and the earth bless them all and grant them paradise.
 
Snm are pound for pound the most successful freedom fighters of all time. It really is a miracle what they achieved. The odds against them where HUGE to say the least. May the creator of the heavens and the earth bless them all and grant them paradise.

Not to be that one but how on earth was the SNM more successful than the Vietcong or even the M-26-7 in Cuba :mahubowtf::ayaanswag:
 
Snm are pound for pound the most successful freedom fighters of all time. It really is a miracle what they achieved. The odds against them where HUGE to say the least. May the creator of the heavens and the earth bless them all and grant them paradise.
The SNM were just one of the many factions in the civil war. Because just like barre they didn't have the revenue to take over all of Somalia they settled for the parts they could control.
 
Awesome book,if Somalia can get a democratic state we will have the whole Ogaden again by this century.

Democracy is not an useful tool in the somali context in my humble opinion sxb. It's only going to stall progress and be used for useless bickering all day long in the "parliament". Especially since people and politicians will use it as a instrument to further their own qabiils interests and put other qabiils down.

I would much rather live in a Somalia under an one-party state like Singapore, China and Rwanda. As long as the party furthers the interests of the Somali nation and achieves poverty reduction and rebuilding of infrastructure it will have my support. The leadership should not be a one man show but rather a rotating position within the standing committee (6-10 people).

If it manages to achieve 10-20% of what the CCP achieved in China it will mean that somalia will move up to 3000-4000 dollar gdp/capita from a nacalatulahi calayk 500 dollar gdp/capita. And since the world we will live in 2030 will be one of a multilateral power structure it will mean that Somalia is going to need a superpower who stands behind it. And since Somalia could be a gateway for China to further its economic and military interests an alliance could be made between these two countries.

Imagine a rising nationalistic regional Somali superpower by 2075 molded after the chinese state (minus the communism) :banderas:

According to the latest report by the World bank Somalias population is estimated to reach 70-75 million by 2080 :rejoice:

Wallah its nuts since the somali population didn't even reach 5 million just 100 years before during the 1970s
 
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Jiron

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It’s best to leave these guys in the past, they’re gone now and these discussions are meaningless as they contribute nothing but furthering the division. Let us learn from their mistakes and never repeat it. We are all brothers and sisters :)
 
Not to be that one but how on earth was the SNM more successful than the Vietcong or even the M-26-7 in Cuba :mahubowtf::ayaanswag:


Study history. Those groups had much more support, training and resources. SNM were literally a few villagers with nothing more than a few bullets. Only weapons they could get they got by killing afweyne army and taking their weapons.

I think we forget what afweyne had at his disposal. SNM was fighting probably the most brutal and tooled up tyrant in africa at that time with their people facing genocide. It really was a miracle.
 
The SNM were just one of the many factions in the civil war. Because just like barre they didn't have the revenue to take over all of Somalia they settled for the parts they could control.

SNM didn't want all of somalia. They just wanted to free their land. Wallah they could have kept going for revenge and slaughtered all those who helped afweyne but they stopped and decided it was better to have peace. Stop tryna rewrite history.

They wanted to save their people from genocide and free their land. It wasn't a conventional civil war. It wasn't a war over ideas. It was a fight for survival. A tyrant seeking to wipe a small group of people from the map. And he turned all the clans against them to try achieve it.
 
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Study history. Those groups had much more support, training and resources. SNM were literally a few villagers with nothing more than a few bullets. Only weapons they could get they got by killing afweyne army and taking their weapons.

I think we forget what afweyne had at his disposal. SNM was fighting probably the most brutal and tooled up tyrant in africa at that time with their people facing genocide. It really was a miracle.

Nice revision of history sxb, but I'ts an open fact that the Derg was supporting SNM by 1988 with logistics and weapons. No one is denying the fact that the government was brutal in its response to the SNM in the north but lets not distort facts and mix them with feelings.

The Mengistu regime allowed the anti-Siad Barre Somali National Movement (SNM) to maintain offices in Addis Ababa and Dire Dawa and to operate five training camps near Dire Dawa. Additionally, the Ethiopian government still provided mat‚riel and logistical support to the SNM. Despite these violations, Somalia refrained from reinitiating hostilities with Ethiopia.

http://memory.loc.gov/frd/etsave/et_04_08.html
 
It’s best to leave these guys in the past, they’re gone now and these discussions are meaningless as they contribute nothing but furthering the division. Let us learn from their mistakes and never repeat it. We are all brothers and sisters :)
Ignorant statement... if we don't learn from history we will just fail again.Why did Siad Barre fall? article will help us overthrow future dictators..
 
SNM didn't want all of somalia. They just wanted to free their land. Wallah they could have kept going for revenge and slaughtered all those who helped afweyne but they stopped and decided it was better to have peace. Stop tryna rewrite history.

They wanted to save their people from genocide and free their land. It wasn't a conventional civil war. It wasn't a war over ideas. It was a fight for survival. A tyrant seeking to wipe a small group of people from the map. And he turned all the clans against them to try achieve it.
You are thinking to emotional.SNM couldn't have taken the whole of Somalia without entering disastrous wars, furthermore just like most post dictatorial societies civil war occurred between varying factions.

Note also the SNM didn't free Somalia and it wasn't them who caused the downfall of Siad Barre.Rather they were a simply a party to the civil war after Siad Barre fell.
 
Democracy is not an useful tool in the somali context in my humble opinion sxb. It's only going to stall progress and be used for useless bickering all day long in the "parliament". Especially since people and politicians will use it as a instrument to further their own qabiils interests and put other qabiils down.

I would much rather live in a Somalia under an one-party state like Singapore, China and Rwanda. As long as the party furthers the interests of the Somali nation and achieves poverty reduction and rebuilding of infrastructure it will have my support. The leadership should not be a one man show but rather a rotating position within the standing committee (6-10 people).

If it manages to achieve 10-20% of what the CCP achieved in China it will mean that somalia will move up to 3000-4000 dollar gdp/capita from a nacalatulahi calayk 500 dollar gdp/capita. And since the world we will live in 2030 will be one of a multilateral power structure it will mean that Somalia is going to need a superpower who stands behind it. And since Somalia could be a gateway for China to further its economic and military interests an alliance could be made between these two countries.

Imagine a rising nationalistic regional Somali superpower by 2075 molded after the chinese state (minus the communism) :banderas:

According to the latest report by the World bank Somalias population is estimated to reach 70-75 million by 2080 :rejoice:

Wallah its nuts since the somali population didn't even reach 5 million just 100 years before during the 1970s
Very bad idea. China,Rwanda and Singapore are exceptions not the norm.I firmly believe democracy even a quasi democracy is better than dictatorship.China's populace are ranked 101st in the UN human development and wont be a world power anytime soon with such a centralised corrupt military.Its a myth that china defies the demise of dictatorships it has simply supported certain regions and played them against others.I will agree they are awesome when compared to other autocracies but they don't invest in their people but , not surprisingly, instead invest in the communist parties power and survival.

China is simply a factory nation, with conditions in factories naseuting this is far from an ideal state.Furthermore Somalia wouldn't have the man power to create such a factory nation system which needs a lot of workers in a short time... the chinese population is 100 times the somali population.

A democratic state will change Somalia into a regional power.I will write more about this sometime next week.
 

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Ignorant statement... if we don't learn from history we will just fail again.Why did Siad Barre fall? article will help us overthrow future dictators..

I am always for constructive dialogue sxb, but in my opinion Somalis are not mature enough in discussing these topics across clan lines without implicit bias or without being triggered. If we can look at it from historical point of view and learn from all the mistakes, am all for it however if the end result is more qabyaalad, then it’s better left alone. :)
 
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