The extent of the influence of the port of Berbera

[محمود فارح]

“Berbera was famous in ancient times as an important port. The Travels of Hanun, Ptolemy, and Cosmas Indicopleutus on the Sea of Eretria describe the city and its inland area very well. It is certain that the importance of this city has not diminished in relation to the period we are talking about, because its name was given long ago to the Gulf of Aden, and Arab geographers alike called it “the sea or the Gulf of Berbera.” These same geographers believe that the Berbers who inhabit these countries (and most of them thought they were different from the Berbers) are clearly distinguished from the Swahili and Abyssinians, and we have every reason to believe that they were in fact Somalis"

Generale History of Africa – Vol. IV – Africa from the Twelfth to the Sixteenth Century

The Magrhib, the impact of the Almohads, Western civilization and the post-Almohad society; the Sudanese-Mali region including the Niger Bend and the Volta Basin; the development in the Casamance to Cameroom region in relation to early contacts with Europeans (Portuguese). Also, developments in...

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[محمود فارح]

“Berbera was famous in ancient times as an important port. The Travels of Hanun, Ptolemy, and Cosmas Indicopleutus on the Sea of Eretria describe the city and its inland area very well. It is certain that the importance of this city has not diminished in relation to the period we are talking about, because its name was given long ago to the Gulf of Aden, and Arab geographers alike called it “the sea or the Gulf of Berbera.” These same geographers believe that the Berbers who inhabit these countries (and most of them thought they were different from the Berbers) are clearly distinguished from the Swahili and Abyssinians, and we have every reason to believe that they were in fact Somalis"

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Generale History of Africa – Vol. IV – Africa from the Twelfth to the Sixteenth Century

The Magrhib, the impact of the Almohads, Western civilization and the post-Almohad society; the Sudanese-Mali region including the Niger Bend and the Volta Basin; the development in the Casamance to Cameroom region in relation to early contacts with Europeans (Portuguese). Also, developments in...

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So that there is no confusion here, the point of saying that they are different from the “Berbers”, means the Berbers of Morocco / North Africa

 

[Khaemwaset]

Should be in history section so it doesn't get drowned out by thr bs

 

[محمود فارح]

Should be in history section so it doesn't get drowned out by thr bs

next time I'll do it

 

[Hotchick12]

Well it’s too bad, they can’t attract the Ethiopian to use the port even when giving them shares

 

[Emir of Zayla]

“Berbera was famous in ancient times as an important port. The Travels of Hanun, Ptolemy, and Cosmas Indicopleutus on the Sea of Eretria describe the city and its inland area very well. It is certain that the importance of this city has not diminished in relation to the period we are talking about, because its name was given long ago to the Gulf of Aden, and Arab geographers alike called it “the sea or the Gulf of Berbera.” These same geographers believe that the Berbers who inhabit these countries (and most of them thought they were different from the Berbers) are clearly distinguished from the Swahili and Abyssinians, and we have every reason to believe that they were in fact Somalis"

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Generale History of Africa – Vol. IV – Africa from the Twelfth to the Sixteenth Century

The Magrhib, the impact of the Almohads, Western civilization and the post-Almohad society; the Sudanese-Mali region including the Niger Bend and the Volta Basin; the development in the Casamance to Cameroom region in relation to early contacts with Europeans (Portuguese). Also, developments in...

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Nice map I found in the book, do you have an English version or a translator for the full version of the book pdf?

 

[محمود فارح]

Nice map I found in the book, do you have an English version or a translator for the full version of the book pdf?
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Well here is the download link

https://www.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/archive_files/general_history_africa_iv.pdf

 

[NidarNidar]

Nice map I found in the book, do you have an English version or a translator for the full version of the book pdf?
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You can use google translate to translate text in images walaalo.

 

[محمود فارح]

I found an old book by a sheikh and historian called “Al-Waqidi” when I searched for it. He had an old book called - The Conquests of Egypt and Alexandria, and it was published later.
In it, he says: “Barbara, this is another country between Abyssinia and the Zanj, on the coast of the Yemen Sea and the Zanj Sea, and its people are very Sudanese.”

Then the other line says "Barbarian Gulf."

Then he continues: “A gulf connected to the land of Abyssinia and Hamadan and extending from the Berber side of the lands of the Zanj and Abyssinia is called the Berber Gulf, and its length is five hundred miles and its width is one hundred miles. Then he says: “This is not Berbera, which the Berbers mean, Morocco, because that is another place that claims the name.

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To clarify further, the book was taken care of, corrected, and printed by a teacher named Henrik Arend Hamkar.

-I also found a picture of the actual manuscript

Here is the link to this manuscript

مخطوطة فتوح مصر والإسكندرية

مخطوطةفتوح مصر والإسكندرية عنوان المخطوط: فتوح مصر والإسكندرية. اسم المؤلف: محمد بن عمر بن واقد الواقدي. اسم الشهرة: الواقدي. تاريخ الوفاة: 207 هـ. عدد اللقطات (الأوراق): 468 ورقة. مصدر المصورة ورقمها: مكتبة الأستاذ الدكتور محمد بن تركي التركي. الملاحظات: • أصل هذه النسخة في مكتبة ليدن،...

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[محمود فارح]

I found an old book by a sheikh and historian called “Al-Waqidi” when I searched for it. He had an old book called - The Conquests of Egypt and Alexandria, and it was published later.
In it, he says: “Barbara, this is another country between Abyssinia and the Zanj, on the coast of the Yemen Sea and the Zanj Sea, and its people are very Sudanese.”

Then the other line says "Barbarian Gulf."

Then he continues: “A gulf connected to the land of Abyssinia and Hamadan and extending from the Berber side of the lands of the Zanj and Abyssinia is called the Berber Gulf, and its length is five hundred miles and its width is one hundred miles. Then he says: “This is not Berbera, which the Berbers mean, Morocco, because that is another place that claims the name.

كتاب فتوح مصر والاسكندرية : محمد بن عمر الواقدي; Henricus Arentius Hamaker : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

كتاب فتوح مصر والاسكندرية المنسوب الى المؤلف الشيخ أبي عبد الله محمد بن عمر بن...

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To clarify further, the book was taken care of, corrected, and printed by a teacher named Henrik Arend Hamkar.

-I also found a picture of the actual manuscript
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Here is the link to this manuscript

مخطوطة فتوح مصر والإسكندرية

مخطوطةفتوح مصر والإسكندرية عنوان المخطوط: فتوح مصر والإسكندرية. اسم المؤلف: محمد بن عمر بن واقد الواقدي. اسم الشهرة: الواقدي. تاريخ الوفاة: 207 هـ. عدد اللقطات (الأوراق): 468 ورقة. مصدر المصورة ورقمها: مكتبة الأستاذ الدكتور محمد بن تركي التركي. الملاحظات: • أصل هذه النسخة في مكتبة ليدن،...

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the meaning of the word “very Sudanese” means that they are very dark-skinned

 

[محمود فارح]

Of course, the meaning of the word “very Sudanese” means that they are very dark-skinned

All I want to convey from all of this is that the Gulf of Aden, currently called by this name, was previously called the Barbary Gulf, the Gulf of Berbera, so we have to recover this name from them because we had the greatest influence.

 

[محمود فارح]

Do you have the oldest mention related to us of a name for the Gulf/sea called Aden in Western sources? Because I saw this on Twitter before and I can't find it. I remember it was called the Erythraean Sea? @Khaemwaset

 

[Khaemwaset]

Do you have the oldest mention related to us of a name for the Gulf/sea called Aden in Western sources? Because I saw this on Twitter before and I can't find it. I remember it was called the Erythraean Sea? @Khaemwaset

First book that comes to mind is the
"Periplus of the Erythraean Sea" by

'The Periplus of the Erythraean Sea is a Roman period guide to trade and navigation in the Indian Ocean. Justly famous for offering a contemporary and descriptive account of early Indian Ocean trade, the work has been sub- ject to and a point of departure for numerous studies.'

It talks alot about ancient Somalis, called Berbers.

 

[محمود فارح]