The defeated TPLF group still have loyal allies in Somalia
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tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
These people will always exist they exist before TPLF and will soon return later in the future but wearing a different shirt. if you want expose you shouldn't rely on dodgy pay to read articles.
What is your view on tplf vs pp or if put another way iley vs cagjar
And do you know the new horn alliance of Somalia,Ethiopia and Eritrea is based on keeping each countries internal actors in check. Because during the 70s and 80s we supported the Eritrean independence movement and the WSLF and other movements while the Ethiopians supported our insurgent terror groups like ssdf, snm etc.
None of the nation states want separatist movements to gain momentum under any circumstance do you agree or disagree with this.
TPLF, Ethiopia, Kenya, UAE lol when will Somali’s realise they are a cursed people and responsible for their own downfall ?
tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
we both know the type of things TPLF has done to Somalis and what currently happening to them is simply retribution. P&P party is lead by an idiot with a messiah complex, believing God send him to save Ethiopia from itself.
if you want to know my opinion on Iley vs Cagjar, it's simple answer is neither both are selected by non Somalis to work for there interest. that why the fake federal system which the TPLF created is still being aplied to the region where non natives have near or total control over the Banks telecomunication and airport.
i know about the horn alliance, but i'm waiting before i could put my final opinion on it, currently i think it's 3 leader that try cling on power as long as possible and not ''keeping each countries internal actors in check'' seeing how Eritrea send delegation to somaliland 2 years ago and Ethiopia having stake in Berbera port.
The article is also clearly referring to the Former Ethiopian Foreign Minister and current World Health Organization Director General Tedros Adhanom. He has been one of the top TPLF officials for the last few decades and has recently become quite famous internationally.
Recently saw that he is Meles Zenawis brother, these dudes became very powerful.
Its fine to be suspicious but I think jury is still out, lets see how this changes the region in the next 5 years. I mean TPLF has only really been flushed out in the last few weeks
I agree both cagjar and iley were selected to further 'Ethiopian' interest the difference I see is that iley was the type that relied on strength and intimidation and had a shoot first and ask questions after policy, but I believe cagjar is different from the speeches I've seen from him and wants Somalis to integrate and buy into Ethiopia to receive more development projects and funds since there isn't any other alternative at the moment which is a logical thing to believe. No one is coming to help them since Somalia is recovering from a coma and the beatdown against the well armed tplf will send a message to everyone that the central government is powerful enough to clamp down on dissidents.
As for ethiopia and eritrea currently both countries will not by any stretch of the imagination violate the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Somalia one of the 3 members of the Horns tripartite alliance and won't recognize a separatist movement that poses one of the biggest national security threats internally and needs to be solved. No country in Africa will open that pandoras box which has been a reality since the late 60s when the OAU countries vowed to not allow for the borders at that time to change which has been consistent outside of a few special cases like south sudan which received recognition from sudan itself.
Do you believe a continuation of leadership is necessary right now since the opposition has no alternative and the current admin seems to be looking to unite the South-Central regions which pose most problems?
They're not brothers but close friends and tplf leaders, Meles is more closely related to afwerki actually than Tedros.
Farmajo and his kacanists revisionists are the TPLF of Somalia and should be hunted and destroyed everywhere they are found.
They are the cancer of Somalia.Just like TPLF they use fear mongering and pit clans against each other.
They also employ KGB style assasination of their opponents and blame the opposition.
Just like TPLF that was dealing with AS discreetly Kacanists have done that over the 4 years.
They are a minority group who ise intimidation to remain in power.They are corrupt nepotistic and genocidal persons.
The Kacanka created and natured TPLF and TPLF is a true image of Kacanka and should be destroyed at all costs.
. Kacaan also created WSLF the same leaders of WSLF later founded ONLF. Using same logic you guys are also in the same boat as TPLF. The kacaanka created many things including refugee camps for ogaden in gedo, middle/lower juba, hiraan, waqooyi galbeed, benaadir. You were xasuuqed most of these areas, but you're just obsessed with benevolent gedo that allowed cagdheers to operate from gedo and fight ethiopia causing us endless problems for close to 30 years. Ogaden are a minority in jubbaland, if you dont' want to be one get all those guys from garissa and wajir out of there into jubbaland. And let degoodia, mx and garre take the land. Otherwise shut the hell up and come to the table.No Kacaan did not create WSLF those are lies peddled by Mx. WSLF existed before 1969.Infact MSB is the one that played a vital role in trying to destroy the WSLF and making it like a shell.
There was no refugee camp in Gedo you are the biggest liar. The only time squatters were moved from Galgaduud and settled in Gedo was during the great drought of 1974 and they were mx.
The only refugees from Ogaden were settled in Berbera and Baladweyne and it was political. MX were the only community that would steal food donated to the refugees by UN and divert it to Gedo & Galgaduud.
MX were non existant in Gedo which was created by MSB in the 70s Somali aboo like reer Xassan found it easy to settle in Gedo with the help of MSB.
If Ogaden are minoirty why is it that you have hawiye SNA+ Ethiopia+govt of Somalia+ AS but still moarn about Madoobe?
The only langaab is Mx. When Farmajo leaves you will go back to oblivion.
tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
The real problem isn't that Cagjar is working with Ethiopia, but that he's pandering to Amhara elite who's ideas and vision haven't changed after Haile selaise. please i don't want continue talking Amhara or there yesman they're currently not relevent to Somalia....yet.
If farmaajo leaves or stay that personally doesn't matter to me personally. but, allot of thing he said he would do didn't happen and that enough for me not root for him.
The Camels of Cal madow
Porcupine and proud
Double standards, The SNM and SSDF are terrorists in your eyes while the WSLF are freedom fighters when they went around isaaq villages and killing civilians like the Liyuu Police.
Lies because we know SNM went into refugee camps and committed ethnic cleansing in some camps the same bones used to claim kacanka killed Isaaq civilians.
The Camels of Cal madow
Porcupine and proud
Again with your Genocide denial. 50,000 Ogaden Refugees were armed by the Government to kill isaaqs. The UN classified it as a genocide are you telling me the UN is controlled by isaaqs.
Propaganda at its best
How can 50 K refugees be armed? Are you for real even snm wasnt 50K nor even WSLF.
You guys have been using mass graves of ogadens who were killed by SNM and claim it as Isaaq victims.
The Camels of Cal madow
Porcupine and proud
You have no evidence about the bones and if you were in Somaliland in 1988 and saw the destruction you would not be denying it.
The Camels of Cal madow
Porcupine and proud
Here is a western news source
There is sufficient evidence about refugee camps that were turned into mass graves.
It is "beleived " is not a source because the only source was from SNM.
There were no cadaan on the ground to colobarate the story they are more of secondary source than primary source.
